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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:59 AM Jan 2018

WATCH: Trump supporter focus group explodes after regretful voter calls them a cult

GOP strategist Frank Luntz recently held a focus group of Trump voters to commemorate the president’s first year in office — and things quickly got out of hand when one member accused his fellow panelists of being a “cult.”

During the meeting, Luntz asked the voters whether they would vote for Trump again if given the chance. While nearly all members of the Trump focus group said they would happily back the president again in 2020, electrician Paul Allen Kroll said he would not.

Luntz then asked him why — and his response infuriated his fellow Trump voters.

“Because I’m not one of the cult members who thinks everything he does is wonderful,” he explained.

When Luntz asked Kroll to elaborate on what he meant by cult, he didn’t hold back.

“Trump was right,” he said while pointing to other people in the room. “He could literally kill somebody on Fifth Avenue and you would still love him.”

“Hillary already killed people!” shouted a Trump voter in the audience.



https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/watch-trump-supporter-focus-group-explodes-after-regretful-voter-calls-them-a-cult/

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WATCH: Trump supporter focus group explodes after regretful voter calls them a cult (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jan 2018 OP
IMHO: They are a cult and Trump is their cult leader UCmeNdc Jan 2018 #1
Yes and they were a cult already in place just waiting for the right 'leader' or rather Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #29
Bingo D_Master81 Jan 2018 #53
Luntz (master of words) acts like he's never heard "cult" associated with Trump's followers underpants Jan 2018 #2
That doughy fuck is part of the reason we are where we are with these Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2018 #16
Just as much as it is a "pro-tRump*" cult, it is also an "anti-Hillary" cult... Raster Jan 2018 #3
Correct. Ligyron Jan 2018 #6
I would completely agree... Raster Jan 2018 #34
except D_Master81 Jan 2018 #54
First Fox News Turbineguy Jan 2018 #4
One of them ACTUALLY said, "I think Trup is the best president we've ever had." Can you fucking BigBearJohn Jan 2018 #5
H. L. Mencken Cary Jan 2018 #19
There is always a left end of the bell curve. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #24
Trump brags that he almost got 100 on his IQ test. keithbvadu2 Jan 2018 #33
At that point, the only thing he's doing that appeals to them forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #39
Correct! Doodley Jan 2018 #40
That's what I'm going to call them from now on: the Trump cult. n/t ginnyinWI Jan 2018 #7
YES pls do - lets name this what it is - nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2018 #41
They are just like him. Butterflylady Jan 2018 #8
Ugh. Also we need our own Frank Luntz sharedvalues Jan 2018 #9
Well, the only good thing about a personality cult Orange Free State Jan 2018 #10
If I remember correctly this was in Philadelphia DFW Jan 2018 #11
Went to college there during Rizzo's reign as police commissioner Farmer-Rick Jan 2018 #14
It sure is! DFW Jan 2018 #15
I read about the statue on a right wing site, I thought it was made up. Farmer-Rick Jan 2018 #23
There is a very similar statue at Washington's National Airport DFW Jan 2018 #25
And don't forget, Reagan fired the air traffic controlers KelleyKramer Jan 2018 #42
DC people have always hated that DFW Jan 2018 #46
How do you reach out to people who live in a completely righ-wing-crafted alternate reality? VOX Jan 2018 #12
Well put, Farmer-Rick Jan 2018 #18
You don't. Exactly so. Paladin Jan 2018 #28
I could only watch a few minutes. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #13
If you watch the whole show it gets better after they go away from those cultist. kimbutgar Jan 2018 #31
That video LittleGirl Jan 2018 #17
And they're stupid Cary Jan 2018 #20
And they are ruining this country LittleGirl Jan 2018 #21
Infuriate them with their own type of lies such as BSdetect Jan 2018 #22
This is why I call them Branch Trumpvidians 47of74 Jan 2018 #26
I am constantly stunned to see middle aged white women embrace Cheeto. Pepsidog Jan 2018 #27
Im not maryellen99 Jan 2018 #32
I never thought of it that way but Trump is no Brad Pitt or Sean Connery. Pepsidog Jan 2018 #36
And all of them admitted they only watch Fox kimbutgar Jan 2018 #30
Trump killed a SEAL in Yemen and four soldiers in Niger. keithbvadu2 Jan 2018 #35
You can't fix stupid. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #37
But Trump better maintain war on minorities Juliusseizure Jan 2018 #38
It's the racism stupid ConnorMarc Jan 2018 #43
Yep, 50% of Red Don voters believed Pizza Gate was real ... these people are brain dead uponit7771 Jan 2018 #44
If thats true, its even worse than I thought. Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #47
Link ... inside uponit7771 Jan 2018 #48
Thanks, and....WTFF??? Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #49
Yep, they're singled sourced FAUX News consumers ... FAUX news seems to be at the root of a lot uponit7771 Jan 2018 #51
he thought Trump was a Populist because of Trump University ? because he gets shit made in China JI7 Jan 2018 #45
Black unemplyment was 50% under Obama! toddwv Jan 2018 #50
They should have a get together MFM008 Jan 2018 #52

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
1. IMHO: They are a cult and Trump is their cult leader
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:02 AM
Jan 2018

Nothing else explains their blind obedience and lack of questions about his actions as a leader.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
29. Yes and they were a cult already in place just waiting for the right 'leader' or rather
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jan 2018

mouthpiece to come along.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
53. Bingo
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

Trump is the result of 30 yrs of Rush and 20 of Fox News. He's only saying things that hosts on these shows have said for decades. So to them he speaks "the truth". Once someone believes in you, they will excuse anything else away b/c finally someone in power that sees the world the same way they do.

underpants

(182,851 posts)
2. Luntz (master of words) acts like he's never heard "cult" associated with Trump's followers
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jan 2018

It's nice when your guest list matches the tablecloths

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
16. That doughy fuck is part of the reason we are where we are with these
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jan 2018

people. It was all fun and games when it was all about making the world liberal synonymous with "freedom hating commie". And now he gets paid to go all around the country going

https://m.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
3. Just as much as it is a "pro-tRump*" cult, it is also an "anti-Hillary" cult...
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:21 AM
Jan 2018

"“Trump was right,” he said while pointing to other people in the room. “He could literally kill somebody on Fifth Avenue and you would still love him.”

“Hillary already killed people!” shouted a Trump voter in the audience."

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
6. Correct.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:39 AM
Jan 2018

I'll bet at least half the people who voted for him only did so because they hated HRC. Trained like Pavlov's dogs by Faux and hate radio.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
34. I would completely agree...
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jan 2018

...Hillary Clinton could have cured cancer, created nuclear fusion and solved human-induced climate change and a certain subset of very loud and deranged reich-wing voters would still find a way to wallow in "the Hillary Hate."

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
5. One of them ACTUALLY said, "I think Trup is the best president we've ever had." Can you fucking
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:38 AM
Jan 2018

believe that shit? Somebody once said "You will never grow broke by
underestimating the intelligence of the American public." I am finally
convinced. Dumber than a box of rocks. America the beautiful.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
24. There is always a left end of the bell curve.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jan 2018

People who are barely able to tie their own shoes. People who lose their life savings in pyramid schemes and who complain to the cops when their meth stash is stolen.

These people will always vote for someone like Trump.

We will never be rid of these idiots, but we should never, ever let them control the machinery of government.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
39. At that point, the only thing he's doing that appeals to them
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jan 2018

is being racist. Those are the only people who can say he's the best President ever. The MAGA slogan literally is code for "Make America White Again."

Butterflylady

(3,546 posts)
8. They are just like him.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:55 AM
Jan 2018

Narcissistic people will never, never admit they made a mistake. Fact is they will dig their heels in further to prove their point.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
10. Well, the only good thing about a personality cult
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jan 2018

Is that they seldom survive when the personality is gone. And make no mistake, Trump will be gone.With his approval ratings, I can’t imagine him being re-elected if he manages to escape impeachment, given a credible Democratic opponent. And if by some miracle both houses turn blue, impeachment is quite possible.

Flake or Romney may even primary him. I believe they are setting themselves up to do so.

DFW

(54,420 posts)
11. If I remember correctly this was in Philadelphia
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:03 AM
Jan 2018

I went to college there. There were a surprisingly large number of very angry, nasty, opinionated white people there (Luntz apparently couldn't find any black Trump supporters in Philly--not surprising) . The city was ethnically VERY divided, with four main groups who mostly distrusted or outright despised each other.

While I was there, the corrupt police commissioner was a racist lout named Frank Rizzo. He used to get his jollies by clubbing anti-Vietnam War protesters with his billy club which he proudly wore in the cummerbund of his tuxedo at formal occasions (!!). Rizzo ran for mayor as a Democrat and won easily (so much for the "City of Brotherly Love." No brother got much love from Rizzo). It was the first election I ever voted in, and the only time I ever voted for a Republican.

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
14. Went to college there during Rizzo's reign as police commissioner
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jan 2018

The police would raid the frat houses during their parties. Then leave the students in jail over the weekend. They did it about once a month.

The called them Rizzo's Raiders. Is it true that they put a statue up to the pig?

DFW

(54,420 posts)
15. It sure is!
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jan 2018

I couldn't believe it, but I was in Philly about ten years ago, and saw it myself, right in Center City.

I have to be back there again later this year. It's probably still there. An unfortunate waste of some perfectly good scrap metal.

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
23. I read about the statue on a right wing site, I thought it was made up.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:49 AM
Jan 2018

Geez, I hope the statue doesn't scare off everyone. What a stupid idea.

DFW

(54,420 posts)
25. There is a very similar statue at Washington's National Airport
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:00 AM
Jan 2018

Republicans cynically named National Airport "Ronald Reagan National Airport," even though Regan hated Washington and air traffic controllers in particular. A statue of Reagan, eerily similar to the Rizzo statue in downtown Philly, greets all who arrive at National by car.

I actually grew up in Northern Virginia, and whenever I check in for a flight headed there, and the check-in staff calls my destination "Washington-Reagan," I always tell them, "please call it National, not Reagan. Those of us who are originally from there NEVER call it Reagan." Most airport staff are understanding. After all, Reagan hated Washington, and we hated him.

KelleyKramer

(8,980 posts)
42. And don't forget, Reagan fired the air traffic controlers
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jan 2018

It was one of the first things he did

I always found a lot of irony that they named an airport after him

DFW

(54,420 posts)
46. DC people have always hated that
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:58 AM
Jan 2018

How dare a bunch of bible belt outsiders name our airport after some half senile right wing actor who never liked us or our town in the first place? We never demanded that Montgomery be renamed "Hillaryville."

VOX

(22,976 posts)
12. How do you reach out to people who live in a completely righ-wing-crafted alternate reality?
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jan 2018

You don’t. They’re unreachable.

Indeed, they do exhibit cult-like behaviors: suspicion of outsiders; heavily filtered and slanted sources of information (and demonization of any/all legitimate news publications and sources); the need for court flattery of their leader; the need to elevate their king-asshole “Imperfect Vessel” with their delusion that a supreme being had a direct hand in human affairs and personally selected their leader; their denial of science, education, intellectual pursuits; their eager willingness to grant their leader additional powers; and steadfastly ignore ANY revelations about criminal activity and conspiracy with a hostile foreign power.

On top of this, there also is a cultish need to discredit ANY person who publicly criticizes their leader; and the hateful, manifold deflections of blame onto Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and the ultimate bogeyman (good for any occasion): George Soros’ DEEP STATE.

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
18. Well put,
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:45 AM
Jan 2018

And the sickest thing about it is they do it to themselves.

Most cult member are kind of hoodwinked into being part of the group and then the other members force their doctrine on them. They are kind of hijacked and prevented from getting away until they have been fully brainwashed. But not Trump cult followers, most of them can move away from the constant brainwashing and propaganda. But they don't.

There was the father of the young man who works on my farm. He came by yesterday to pick up his son and we got to talking. The father is on disability and there were some chores I had to do and I thought his family could use a few bucks. I pay above minimum to my part time workers. Since I can only afford part time, I feel a higher hourly rate compensates them....and people don't mind working the few hours I've got to give.

The next thing I know, the man is spouting on about Obama's birth certificate and how wonderful Trump is. I bit my tongue and as his son got in, I told the father that I hoped Trump doesn't shut down the government and his government checks wouldn't get delayed, while Trump was partying in Mara-la-go. He looked stunned, as if he hadn't thought about it. Well, now it's looking more likely.



Paladin

(28,268 posts)
28. You don't. Exactly so.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:22 AM
Jan 2018

These are vermin-level individuals who need to be overcome and defeated, not won over. They're lost to us, and ought to be treated accordingly.

mountain grammy

(26,640 posts)
13. I could only watch a few minutes.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 10:11 AM
Jan 2018

can't stand Luntz and those idiot people. Idiots! Alll watch nothing but fox except the one brainiac who watches OAN. Make America dumb, always.

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
32. Im not
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:37 AM
Jan 2018

Trump to them is their version of the Alpha male billionaire that they read in their erotic romance books ala 50 Shades of Grey.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
36. I never thought of it that way but Trump is no Brad Pitt or Sean Connery.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jan 2018

Hard to believe that Trump’s appeal to middle aged white women is based on “caveman” attraction but it’s an interesting point of view.

kimbutgar

(21,172 posts)
30. And all of them admitted they only watch Fox
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jan 2018

I watched the whole hour. Excellent show. Vice did a great show on on where we stand now. We all on DU have been calling it a cult for sometime now it’s needs to go mainstream.

keithbvadu2

(36,858 posts)
35. Trump killed a SEAL in Yemen and four soldiers in Niger.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jan 2018

Trump killed a SEAL in Yemen and four soldiers in Niger.

The Army requested more resources in Niger but the Trump administration refused them.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
38. But Trump better maintain war on minorities
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:57 AM
Jan 2018

The one thing Trump did that had this cult openly calling for his impeachment was his "deal" with Schumer and Pelosi to keep DACA and not build a wall.

So I deduce their undying support depends on Trump keeping this war on minorities.

It may extend further than that to keeping up a war against democrats.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
47. If thats true, its even worse than I thought.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jan 2018

Here’s another, slightly more antiquated focus group, in which the tradition of republican logic is irrevocably instilled:

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
49. Thanks, and....WTFF???
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jan 2018
By comparison, 5 percent and 19 percent of Democrats surveyed said the claims were definitely true or probably true, respectively, indicating nearly one-in-four members of Mrs. Clinton’s own party believes her campaign has ties to a supposedly satanic pizza joint.


Makes me wonder about the validity of that poll, as well as that of any content from the W

Makes me think even more pugs believe in pizza gate

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
51. Yep, they're singled sourced FAUX News consumers ... FAUX news seems to be at the root of a lot
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jan 2018

... stupid information in this country including the #releaseTheDumbMemo (that Red Don can declassify and release right now) and is backed up by a ton of Russian bots

JI7

(89,259 posts)
45. he thought Trump was a Populist because of Trump University ? because he gets shit made in China
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:05 AM
Jan 2018

because he refused to show his tax returns ?

because he said it makes him smart when he was accused of not paying taxes ?


or because he could not accept an intelligent successful woman being president ?

fuck him also.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
50. Black unemplyment was 50% under Obama!
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jan 2018

Actually, it topped out at 17% which is fairly high, but not even in the same ballpark as 50%...

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