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Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:22 PM

schumer saying they will vote to reopen the government and fold once again..


I am not happy about this. What good is Mcconnell word that he will bring DACA back to the floor.

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Reply schumer saying they will vote to reopen the government and fold once again.. (Original post)
drray23 Jan 2018 OP
dalton99a Jan 2018 #1
MFM008 Jan 2018 #2
dalton99a Jan 2018 #4
OliverQ Jan 2018 #3
RKP5637 Jan 2018 #6
RKP5637 Jan 2018 #5
Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #7
brooklynite Jan 2018 #8
drray23 Jan 2018 #9
brooklynite Jan 2018 #11
atreides1 Jan 2018 #16
samnsara Jan 2018 #20
Javaman Jan 2018 #10
unblock Jan 2018 #12
samnsara Jan 2018 #19
Sophia4 Jan 2018 #13
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #14
Hoyt Jan 2018 #15
Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #17
samnsara Jan 2018 #18

Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:23 PM

1. Shithole will declare his great victory shortly

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:24 PM

2. BREAKING NEWS

Lucy pulls the football away from Charlie Brown AGAIN.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:25 PM

4. The definition of insanity

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:24 PM

3. I'm so fed up with this country. Both sides are terrible.

 

Dems are weak, Republicans are treasonous criminals.


I want out! This country will never get better.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:27 PM

6. It's pretty sick. All we hear is fighting and knuckle dragging. So fed up with it all. n/t

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:26 PM

5. McTurdtle can't be trusted IMO! n/t

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:28 PM

7. So we go through this same shit in three weeks??? WTF

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:28 PM

8. His word is good because he can only pull this stunt once...

Senate Rs will need D votes on almost any bill they want to introduce. If he promised the Minority Leader to call a vote and then reneged, he wouldn't get anything passed for the remainder of the term.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:29 PM

9. well... Mc Connell as reneged on promises before. I would not count on it.nt.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:30 PM

11. There is a language difference between "consider" and "hold a vote".

He has not gone against an agreement with Schumer.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:51 PM

16. Okay

But, McConnell doesn't have the authority to make promises for the House! We already know that the House will never hold a vote for a fair and balanced Dreamers bill...then what?

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:04 PM

20. i think the house would have held this up anyway...

...and then we might have ended up with nothing except a broken government that probably runs better when its shut down

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:30 PM

10. knock me over with a feather...

I got into a tit for tat argument with someone on here about just this...

And I made the innocent comment of: "I've heard this call before, let's see if it actually happens."

and here we are.

color me surprised.

if you can bet on one thing and one thing only, that will be for the Dems to cave.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:32 PM

12. i don't think i have a problem with this. it's only 3 weeks. if mcturtle lies,

we'll be in a better position in three weeks.

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Response to unblock (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:02 PM

19. i agree... the REAL fight is ahead of us if McConnell is a welcher

.. we are giving the GOP ONE LAST chance to do the honorable thing.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:33 PM

13. No wonder Republicans appear stronger than Democrats.

 

The Republicans held out when it came to Obama's Supreme Court nominee. I understand that the situation within the Senate was a bit different because Republicans controlled bringing the nominee to a vote. But now we are stuck with Gorsuch and our Democratic leadership is about to cave on the Dreamers and the budget and CHIP. No way should Democrats be so weak.

What is more, the wall is an unworkable, crazy idea. Many countries have built walls. They all crumble and are circumvented. You have to work with your neighbors and get along with them.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:35 PM

14. No matter what

Trump comes out of this looking worse (if that is possible) IMHO. It gets settled in Congress and he locked himself away all weekend seemingly doing nothing.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:43 PM

15. I think Schumer and Democrats are doing the right thing at this point.

DACA and budget need to be decoupled at this point.

I want DACA, and a path to citizenship. But it was no longer smart to block funding since GOPers are on record saying they will bring up the matter within weeks. It's clear, we weren't going to get DACA by "standing strong" on budget bill. I know we are desperate for wins, but save it for the Congressional primaries and local races coming up in months -- getting out the vote will send the strongest message to trump and GOPers.

If it takes it to free these kids, give trump some money for his crummy wall. Let him lay the stone and wire, or cut ribbons all along the border, for all I care. We can paint "screw trump" graffiti on it and tear it down. The darn thing isn't going to get built as he envisions it, anyway.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:58 PM

17. I agree and I think we also have to trust that they know what they are doing. They are not new

 

to this 'game'. That is why I think it is critical to have experienced people at the helm. I'm all for fresh faces but many seem eager to just 'throw out' the old.

I also am not going to worry about the wall...I don't think it's going to be built how he envisions it AT ALL.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:58 PM

18. chuck and nancy arent stupid and they know the costs of keeping gvnt open...

..and they know the costs of keeping it shut. I'm not going to second guess either of them. They know their job and I don't. The GOP is happy to see the country go up in flames. Thank gawd our party is country before party.

We came out looking like the adults. After all we are the ones who opened our gvnt up again. The damned neutered GOP cant even do THAT without us.

We are a force to be reckoned with and I put my trust in the leaders of our party. I'm proud of what we did and how we did it and WHY we did it.

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