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TheRealistRealist

(180 posts)
2. This is what I am hearing
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:22 PM
Jan 2018

That the state charges are going to bring him down. Differing opinions as to if state charges can have him removed without congress.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. On O'Donnell
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jan 2018

They had one of the Watergate prosecutors, and they were saying that there are several memos (like from Ken Starr!) saying that a president can indeed be indicted by a grand jury. He might not be able to be prosecuted yet, but he can be indicted. There's this big surrender-- "The president can't be prosecuted!" when it sounds like in fact that's not settled at all.

We know the VICE PRESIDENT can be indicted (Spiro Agnew), after all. Nixon resigned (and was pardoned) before he was indicted. Clinton was impeached (probably couldn't have been indicted because the evidence was so lacking). But has this really been tested? no. And it was indeed assumed during Watergate that Nixon could be indicted while in office-- that was one of the reasons he resigned.

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
5. well i'm wondering if tRumps team (with russian help) wants
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

the U.S.A. to have a constitutional crisis? and maybe have a loaded supreme court make the final ruling on this!

global1

(25,242 posts)
8. With All The Repugs Out There Trying To Discredit Mueller And The FBI....
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:36 PM
Jan 2018

anything that Mueller says - will be categorized as 'fake news'; a 'witch hunt'; conspiracy, etc.

As such - the American People will continue to be divided as Trump and the Repugs will hold their support and they will fight anything Mueller.

Our only hope is that the Dems take the House and Senate in 2018. Then we will have the leverage and control to do the right thing.

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
9. how exactly would it work? If repubs do NOTHING then what would the Blue states (NY,CA)
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jan 2018

do? File state charges i assume rt? Could anything be done to force the repubs? in congress?

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
13. Charged with state crimes
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

Both run by democrats.
Money related I'm sure.
Repubes will have no say.
Congress no.
We will have to flush them in November.

 

m3n0z

(53 posts)
12. Catch 22 for those states
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

Without cutting taxes there will be no relief of the tax burden this puts on residents. However cutting taxes will reduce revenues and likely created deficits in the state budget. It's not much about the tax cuts, it's how they TARGETED them to hurt democratic states.

brush

(53,774 posts)
10. If Mueller brings recommendation for indictment and the repugs don't move to impeach...
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jan 2018

people will take to the streets and who knows what will happen.

I suspect the deplorables will come out also, and most likely armed.

Antifa will come out to oppose them.

It won't be pretty as demonstrators could be caught in between'

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
11. yep and the repubs would just
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jan 2018

sit back and let it happen. People gotta be smart and careful!! (if this happens) Also i thought Mueller COULD indict? NO?

brush

(53,774 posts)
14. I would hope so but that whole indictment of a sitting president still seems to be undecided.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Sun Jan 28, 2018, 04:07 AM - Edit history (1)

Mueller did indict Manafort and Gates and got a guilty plea from Papadopoulos so it might happen.

16. The Repugs are all about party over country.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 07:49 PM
Jan 2018

And maintaining power above all else.

They won't do shit, no matter what Mueller does.

The question is, what will the voters do about it in November? How well is the anti-FBI rhetoric taking hold?

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
17. well i hope to hell they do the right thing in November because
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 08:00 PM
Jan 2018

i feel it's our LAST LINE OF DEFENSE! And i truly mean it America as we know will be GONE!!! ( may be to late already)

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