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Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 09:37 PM Jan 2018

How many of us are guilty of

putting ALL our hopes on one man, Mr. Robert S. Mueller III?
And if not, who or what can we do to end this nightmare we are in now? Work hard on the midterms?
Anything else?

Protests and all are good, but I don't them as changing minds. Of course, I could be wrong. They
could be very productive, but they are like preaching to the choir, in my mind.

SO, if Mr. Mueller fails to bring an end to the PGIC and his regime of terror, what will?

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How many of us are guilty of (Original Post) Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 OP
Not me. I understand how elections are actually more important JI7 Jan 2018 #1
Democrats taking the House and or Senate in November derails Trump's policy agenda. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #2
VOTE thbobby Jan 2018 #3
Its not just mueller. We need the courts to work properly, including a politicized supreme court unblock Jan 2018 #4
I'm worried we be served a large mug of disappointment at Mueller Time... JoeOtterbein Jan 2018 #5
I remember Fitzmas around here eleny Jan 2018 #6
Oops. Knew I shouldve read these before I posted Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #21
If he does have damning evidence you know the R's will only turn their backs eleny Jan 2018 #23
I'm putting all of my hopes on Mueller and the midterms. Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #7
I have absolutely no hope for anything to come out of Mueller that way I will be pleasantly lunasun Jan 2018 #8
Thank you! Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #22
If we don't put our hopes in Mueller who else is there? I'm afraid we won't make it to blueinredohio Jan 2018 #9
Learned my lesson with Fitzmas. If it happens, great. Not counting on it. Hoyt Jan 2018 #10
Not me. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2018 #11
I'm guilty of putting all my hopes on KFC and McDonalds. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #12
Mid-terms. Iggo Jan 2018 #13
Im not confident anything will come from Codeine Jan 2018 #14
Thank you all for your responses. Many good posts here about Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #15
I'm already thrilled they nailed Flynn, Manafort , Gates and Papadopoulis wishstar Jan 2018 #16
I hope you are correct. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #17
We dont rely on a person, rather we trust the system. denbot Jan 2018 #18
Unfortunately, the "system" has failed us too many times in the past. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #20
Never mind Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #19

JI7

(89,247 posts)
1. Not me. I understand how elections are actually more important
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 09:38 PM
Jan 2018

ThE protests included a lot of work involving organizing and voting.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
3. VOTE
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 09:45 PM
Jan 2018

and help and encourage others to vote. Even if trump is gone, if good people don't vote, bad people will control us. The voter participation level in America is pathetic. If we don't vote, we do not deserve a government that supports us and we will not have one.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
4. Its not just mueller. We need the courts to work properly, including a politicized supreme court
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 09:52 PM
Jan 2018

And the media has to work well enough, and voters need to respond in droves, enough to overcome the defects in our electoral system.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
5. I'm worried we be served a large mug of disappointment at Mueller Time...
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 09:55 PM
Jan 2018

Bush & Co. started a war for political & financial gain. Even had people tortured and got still away clean as a whistle. I feel like we are watching the same ole story.

I hope I'm wrong.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
6. I remember Fitzmas around here
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jan 2018

It was an awful letdown. So I have hope in Mueller but nothing will surprise me.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
21. Oops. Knew I shouldve read these before I posted
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:57 PM
Jan 2018

Of course

Hate bringing this up again, but Mueller, for whatever reason, let the biggest BCCI fish hop outta the pan, while frying only the little ones

eleny

(46,166 posts)
23. If he does have damning evidence you know the R's will only turn their backs
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 01:21 PM
Jan 2018

In two years America could experience upheavals when family economics goes south at all levels below the super wealthy. I'm too old for this shit, Gabi.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
7. I'm putting all of my hopes on Mueller and the midterms.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 10:02 PM
Jan 2018

I'll be pretty despondent if neither one comes to fruition, but I'm not all in on Mueller.

That said, Trump admitted to obstruction on national TV, which likely rules out another Fitzmas debacle.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
8. I have absolutely no hope for anything to come out of Mueller that way I will be pleasantly
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 10:05 PM
Jan 2018

surprised if they all go down with Mueller indictments
There are too many variables at hand imo

Elections not only congress but local too like here govenor will be a tight race . I will devote time although none of the three candidates for the primary have won yet which ever one does, I will work for , and look even at community changes .
Complaints to any one who represents you about issues at hand if you don't like their votes etc. call
Address any state university policy of broadcasting games on hate radio stations or anything you can tie to being a taxpayer and voter that helps change the mood of the country

The radio thing is happening all over in the US find out which in your state so you do not fund hate radio.
Write a letter to the newspaper like this attorney in KY asking for 2 univs games to be taken off and of course a direct letter to the universities

The attorney, writes, “It is no secret that these stations are exclusive provinces of conservative ideology.They spew propaganda with a breathtaking lack of regard for truth and with a pervasive tone of contempt and ridicule for those with a different perspective.”

We cannot continue to allow our beloved Cats and Cards to be part of any entity that perpetuates this culture,” he wrote in the Herald-Leader. “When enough of us insist that we use our schools to further their foundational ideals the pursuit of truth and the betterment of our world change will come.”
So there is your beginning template letter if you were wondering what could I write?

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
9. If we don't put our hopes in Mueller who else is there? I'm afraid we won't make it to
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 10:05 PM
Jan 2018

midterms or even if we do with all the gerrymandering how will democrats win?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
14. Im not confident anything will come from
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 07:36 AM
Jan 2018

the investigation. We get rid of the Tangerine Idi Amin via elections.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
16. I'm already thrilled they nailed Flynn, Manafort , Gates and Papadopoulis
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jan 2018

I believe Mueller's team would not have arranged plea bargains unless Flynn and Papadopoulis had incriminating information to bring down others in Trump orbit for conspiracy to violate several federal laws. I think they are holding their fire with additional indictments until they can attempt to interview Trump. He would be more willing to cooperate if he thinks his interview will end the probe by him just acting cooperative with SC and claiming "no collusion" If he is uncooperative within a limited timespan of a few weeks, I expect that Mueller's team will lay down hammer with more charges.

I have faith this substantial team of top bi-partisan prosecutors will not disappoint us when Trump & Co. are such a corrupt national security nightmare willing to break laws and conspire with a foreign adversary to achieve power and personal financial gain.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
18. We dont rely on a person, rather we trust the system.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jan 2018

Mueller has been entrusted to function within that system. The republic will survive this, the republic will again thrive.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
20. Unfortunately, the "system" has failed us too many times in the past.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jan 2018

The "system" is ruled by money and power nowadays. Not that it hasn't always.
I thought the system or the intelligence of the American people would have kept Monkeyboy bush from being elected to a second term, or that it would keep America from allowing torture and warrantless surveilance, but it did not. My faith in the "system" has been shattered.
I still HOPE that Mr. Mueller can restore a bit of sanity.

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