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Apparently, the New York Times considers itself an exception to the rules and has little problem employing a double standard in the service of shielding and protecting one of its top money makers, serial sexual harasser Glenn Thrush.
As per the original story in Vox:
Three young women I interviewed, including the young woman who met Thrush in June, described to me a range of similar experiences, from unwanted groping and kissing to wet kisses out of nowhere to hazy sexual encounters that played out under the influence of alcohol. Each woman described feeling differently about these experiences: scared, violated, ashamed, weirded out. I was and am angry.
Details of their stories suggest a pattern. All of the women were in their 20s at the time. They were relatively early in their careers compared to Thrush, who was the kind of seasoned journalist who would be good to know. At an event with alcohol, he made advances. Afterward, they (as I did) thought it best to stay on good terms with Thrush, whatever their feelings.
From the HuffPo story:
Were not really sure what the message is here, one woman told HuffPost. I feel really conflicted. Another lamented that while the Times took careful steps to nurture and protect its star male reporter, there were loads of women struggling to get help with flat-lining careers inside the newsroom. For her, the Thrush decision was another painful reminder of how the Times is failing its female reporters.
Every woman who works at the Times has to go to work tomorrow knowing that thats the decision they made, Kate Harding, who hosts the Feminasty podcast, tweeted Wednesday. Thats whose career matters. Thats who theyll go the extra mile for.
According to Business Insider, many women at Vox (which broke the story) were unhappy with a Vanity Fair story's minimization on the impact to the victims, saying it:
"papered over the accusations against Thrush, and set the stage for his return to the Times."
Maggie Haberman, a long time friend of Thrush, who landed a lucrative deal for a book she will co-write with the offender, has made no public comment on either Thrush's history of sleazy serial harassment or her employer's decision to shield him.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-york-times-thrush-women_us_5a3c0b28e4b0b0e5a7a0b49f
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/20/business/media/glenn-thrush-suspension-white-house.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/21/the-new-york-times-angers-and-puzzles-some-journalists-by-keeping-accused-sexual-harasser-glenn-thrush/?utm_term=.655cf645e4cc
http://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-times-divided-over-glenn-thrush-sexual-harassment-allegations-2017-12
dalton99a
(81,475 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)It's disgusting. Maggie Haberman has zero credibility. I will never buy her book. She helped get Trump elected and now she is trying to make money off it.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)when it's one of their own.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)when it's one of their own.
They think we're blind. They think we're stupid. But, I guess the "rules" are different for them. The "rules" are in their favor when it comes to the different standards applied to Hillary.
Thanks for posting this!
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)I am not sure what to think about this one.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)He's a serial sexual predator..
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Given today's climate, why was he given another chance?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Got drunk...made advances...and NYT is playing double standards..
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)According to Vox reporter Laura McGann:
If Thrush is acutely aware of what young women face in the business of political journalism, he should also know its because he himself is one of the problems women face. Five years ago, when Thrush and I were colleagues at Politico, I was in the same bar [where one of the incidents of harassment began] perhaps the same booth when he caught me off guard, put his hand on my thigh, and suddenly started kissing me. Thrush says that he recalls the incident differently.
Apparently Thrush abuses and then gaslights his victims.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Were making advances to him, and he rebuffing them.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)They did everything in their power to normalize Trump and demonize the Democrats and now wring their hands and twist their pearls over the abuses of the presidency they promoted.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Needs her access to further her career
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)over the newspaper of record shielding a sexual predator AT THIS VERY MOMENT?
And it's shocking to know that silence and complicity has a price tag for those with positions of influence and power.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Still remember how you put into context the huge crock the classified email BS was
That, more than any single instance (we dont know the full extent of the treason yet, of course) cost her the electoral college
I said it when Comey dropped his dime, and was scorned for my trouble
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)in the run-up to the 2016 that did not fit their narrative
But they had no problem opening up their checkbook to pay for exclusive rights to print excerpts from the discredited and widely-denounced, Mercer-funded right wing screed "Clinton Cash".
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Jeff Gerth is a point on the timeline
Judy Miller
Curveball
Enough.....stomach/heart sounds.....
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)over something that happened 10 years ago despite the fact that they are doing something similar, but far worse, as we speak.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)lapucelle
(18,252 posts)over something that happened 10 years ago have absolutely nothing to say about something that is going on at this very moment.
Perhaps they fell back asleep.
mcar
(42,307 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)No excuse for failing to act.
it is pathological and it never ends
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)about Clinton only. Any other politician, one who even called an accused good friends, gets a total pass. That kind of hypocrisy says it all. Stick a fork in him, hes done that would be a consistent response. The phony outrage trolling is very apparent.
Thanks again for this illuminating thread, lapucelle.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)sheshe2
(83,751 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)But, it looks like the NYT has figured out how they word... they just can't explain why it's fair, nor can they explain the hypocrisy.
Here's the thing: If she's "silent" then they say it means she's "guilty". If she defends herself, they they say it proves she's "guilty". If she laughs it off and ridicules her accusers, they claim it means she has a "guilty-conscience".
If anyone comes to her aid (from the highest office to the lowly blogger or discussion-board participant) they are accused of being "complicit" or other such nonsense.
mcar
(42,307 posts)Or she's "defensive," or her response is "poll-driven" and not genuine, blah, blah, blah.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 28, 2018, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)
George II
(67,782 posts)....the offender in her campaing, but the NY Times IS shielding this one.
The NY Times is becoming a very disappointing media outlet.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)that they have no problem calling people out for something that happened 10 years ago that the Times itself is doing at this very moment.
Glenn Thrush should have been fired. Apparently the NYT exempts itself from the rules they retroactively set for others.
#FireThrush
Me.
(35,454 posts)but then this is the paper who printed an OP endorsing Stephen Miller this week so why would we expect integrity.
Cha
(297,196 posts)in bringing us the War on Iraq with judy miller.
Me.
(35,454 posts)and while I thought SNL last night was a complete waste of time, Will F. made one excellent point in his portrayal of GWB. Not only did he start that fake war, we're still there.
Cha
(297,196 posts)as bush last night.
Glad that was included.
Thanks, Me
Cha
(297,196 posts)Hope the bushers liked it.
Mahalo!
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)It made the hit piece on Hillary even more disgusting
Cha
(297,196 posts)with thrush about Hillary "shielding" the same kind of guy as thrush.
Mahalo for all your research on who is actually "Shielding", lapucelle.
haberman has a lot of gd nerve.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Bill and Hillary than anyone else doing the same or worse.