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lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 11:52 AM Jan 2018

The NYT Continues to Shield a Prominent Reporter Accused of Serial Harassment

Apparently, the New York Times considers itself an exception to the rules and has little problem employing a double standard in the service of shielding and protecting one of its top money makers, serial sexual harasser Glenn Thrush.

As per the original story in Vox:

Three young women I interviewed, including the young woman who met Thrush in June, described to me a range of similar experiences, from unwanted groping and kissing to wet kisses out of nowhere to hazy sexual encounters that played out under the influence of alcohol. Each woman described feeling differently about these experiences: scared, violated, ashamed, weirded out. I was — and am — angry.

Details of their stories suggest a pattern. All of the women were in their 20s at the time. They were relatively early in their careers compared to Thrush, who was the kind of seasoned journalist who would be good to know. At an event with alcohol, he made advances. Afterward, they (as I did) thought it best to stay on good terms with Thrush, whatever their feelings.

From the HuffPo story:

“We’re not really sure what the message is here,” one woman told HuffPost. “I feel really conflicted.” Another lamented that while the Times took careful steps to nurture and protect its star male reporter, there were loads of women struggling to get help with flat-lining careers inside the newsroom. For her, the Thrush decision was another painful reminder of how the Times is failing its female reporters.

Every woman who works at the Times has to go to work tomorrow knowing that that’s the decision they made,” Kate Harding, who hosts the Feminasty podcast, tweeted Wednesday. “That’s whose career matters. That’s who they’ll go the extra mile for.

According to Business Insider, many women at Vox (which broke the story) were unhappy with a Vanity Fair story's minimization on the impact to the victims, saying it:

"papered over the accusations against Thrush, and set the stage for his return to the Times."

Maggie Haberman, a long time friend of Thrush, who landed a lucrative deal for a book she will co-write with the offender, has made no public comment on either Thrush's history of sleazy serial harassment or her employer's decision to shield him.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-york-times-thrush-women_us_5a3c0b28e4b0b0e5a7a0b49f

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/20/business/media/glenn-thrush-suspension-white-house.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/21/the-new-york-times-angers-and-puzzles-some-journalists-by-keeping-accused-sexual-harasser-glenn-thrush/?utm_term=.655cf645e4cc

http://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-times-divided-over-glenn-thrush-sexual-harassment-allegations-2017-12
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The NYT Continues to Shield a Prominent Reporter Accused of Serial Harassment (Original Post) lapucelle Jan 2018 OP
Kick dalton99a Jan 2018 #1
The NYT keeps running hit pieces on Hillary while employing a sexual harasser. yardwork Jan 2018 #2
It's remarkable how they look the other way lapucelle Jan 2018 #10
"THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY" ... yes, they certainly do. So hypocritical... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #21
I have heard other people in the media defend Thrush IluvPitties Jan 2018 #3
What on earth is there to think about? HipChick Jan 2018 #4
I don't know if there is anything else to the story. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #5
Agree...he blames drink.. HipChick Jan 2018 #7
The piggish Thrush "remembers it differently". lapucelle Jan 2018 #8
Another part of the story is him gossiping to colleagues about the women - that it was they who bettyellen Jan 2018 #33
The media is adept at absolving itself of any responsibility. lapucelle Jan 2018 #11
maggie is too busy with her moldy Hillary blockbuster Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #6
Isn't it odd how few people are outraged lapucelle Jan 2018 #9
But but emails! Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #12
The NYT looked the other way on several stories lapucelle Jan 2018 #13
The list is very long Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #15
And now the NYT has its knickers in a knot lapucelle Jan 2018 #14
KnR! nt R B Garr Jan 2018 #16
... lapucelle Jan 2018 #17
The Clinton Rules in effect still mcar Jan 2018 #18
It's amazing how many of the recently woke who were outraged yesterday lapucelle Jan 2018 #19
It's not about Hillary now so they don't care mcar Jan 2018 #20
So true! Sexual predators should be rooted out of the workplace... period! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #23
yup Skittles Jan 2018 #24
Yes, I saw the ZZzzs snore emoticon from one outraged R B Garr Jan 2018 #29
To be fair, R B, it was the middle of the night in Moscow. lapucelle Jan 2018 #38
Good one! sheshe2 Jan 2018 #44
... lapucelle Jan 2018 #45
Excellent description. It's as bad as North Carolina gerrymandering... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #22
This is so true, Jackie mcar Jan 2018 #31
It's chilling to know that an institution like the NYT enables and protects predators. lapucelle Jan 2018 #25
Big difference between this story and the one they ran the other day is, Clinton didn't "shield".... George II Jan 2018 #26
And apparently those who run the Times have such an inflated sense of entitlement lapucelle Jan 2018 #28
Mind Boggling Me. Jan 2018 #27
And, this is the paper that had a big hand Cha Jan 2018 #35
Completely Forgoet About That Fiasco Me. Jan 2018 #39
I read about Will Farrell Cha Jan 2018 #40
That was Good! I just saw it in Vids.. Cha Jan 2018 #41
K&R for visibility. lunamagica Jan 2018 #30
Thats how they roll ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #32
But, maggie haberman will write a FAKE Hit Job Cha Jan 2018 #34
Mahalo lapucelle Jan 2018 #36
Promoting a book, using "the Clinton Rules" of different more vindictive standards for ehrnst Jan 2018 #37
K&R brer cat Jan 2018 #42
K&R. nt TexasTowelie Jan 2018 #43
K&R sheshe2 Jan 2018 #46

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
2. The NYT keeps running hit pieces on Hillary while employing a sexual harasser.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:04 PM
Jan 2018

It's disgusting. Maggie Haberman has zero credibility. I will never buy her book. She helped get Trump elected and now she is trying to make money off it.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. "THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY" ... yes, they certainly do. So hypocritical...
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:05 PM
Jan 2018
10. It's remarkable how they look the other way
when it's one of their own.
"THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY" ... yes, they certainly do. So hypocritical... so transparent... so obvious what's going on.

They think we're blind. They think we're stupid. But, I guess the "rules" are different for them. The "rules" are in their favor when it comes to the different standards applied to Hillary.

Thanks for posting this!

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
5. I don't know if there is anything else to the story.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jan 2018

Given today's climate, why was he given another chance?

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
8. The piggish Thrush "remembers it differently".
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jan 2018

According to Vox reporter Laura McGann:

If Thrush is acutely aware of what young women face in the business of political journalism, he should also know it’s because he himself is one of the problems women face. Five years ago, when Thrush and I were colleagues at Politico, I was in the same bar [where one of the incidents of harassment began] — perhaps the same booth — when he caught me off guard, put his hand on my thigh, and suddenly started kissing me. Thrush says that he recalls the incident differently.

Apparently Thrush abuses and then gaslights his victims.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. Another part of the story is him gossiping to colleagues about the women - that it was they who
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018

We’re making advances to him, and he rebuffing them.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
11. The media is adept at absolving itself of any responsibility.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jan 2018

They did everything in their power to normalize Trump and demonize the Democrats and now wring their hands and twist their pearls over the abuses of the presidency they promoted.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
9. Isn't it odd how few people are outraged
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jan 2018

over the newspaper of record shielding a sexual predator AT THIS VERY MOMENT?

And it's shocking to know that silence and complicity has a price tag for those with positions of influence and power.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
12. But but emails!
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jan 2018

Still remember how you put into context the huge crock the classified email BS was

That, more than any single instance (we don’t know the full extent of the treason yet, of course) cost her the electoral college

I said it when Comey dropped his dime, and was scorned for my trouble

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
13. The NYT looked the other way on several stories
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jan 2018

in the run-up to the 2016 that did not fit their narrative

But they had no problem opening up their checkbook to pay for exclusive rights to print excerpts from the discredited and widely-denounced, Mercer-funded right wing screed "Clinton Cash".

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. The list is very long
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jan 2018

Jeff Gerth is a point on the timeline

Judy Miller

Curveball

Enough.....stomach/heart sounds.....

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
14. And now the NYT has its knickers in a knot
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jan 2018

over something that happened 10 years ago despite the fact that they are doing something similar, but far worse, as we speak.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
19. It's amazing how many of the recently woke who were outraged yesterday
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jan 2018

over something that happened 10 years ago have absolutely nothing to say about something that is going on at this very moment.

Perhaps they fell back asleep.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
23. So true! Sexual predators should be rooted out of the workplace... period!
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jan 2018

No excuse for failing to act.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
29. Yes, I saw the ZZzzs snore emoticon from one outraged
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jan 2018

about Clinton only. Any other politician, one who even called an accused “good friends”, gets a total pass. That kind of hypocrisy says it all. Stick a fork in him, he’s done — that would be a consistent response. The phony outrage trolling is very apparent.

Thanks again for this illuminating thread, lapucelle.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. Excellent description. It's as bad as North Carolina gerrymandering...
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jan 2018
18. The Clinton Rules in effect still
Excellent description. It's as bad as North Carolina gerrymandering when you try to figure out why up is down and down is up. Hillary will always be attacked and she'll never be permitted to defend herself.

But, it looks like the NYT has figured out how they word... they just can't explain why it's fair, nor can they explain the hypocrisy.

Here's the thing: If she's "silent" then they say it means she's "guilty". If she defends herself, they they say it proves she's "guilty". If she laughs it off and ridicules her accusers, they claim it means she has a "guilty-conscience".

If anyone comes to her aid (from the highest office to the lowly blogger or discussion-board participant) they are accused of being "complicit" or other such nonsense.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
31. This is so true, Jackie
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jan 2018
Here's the thing: If she's "silent" then they say it means she's "guilty". If she defends herself, they they say it proves she's "guilty". If she laughs it off and ridicules her accusers, they claim it means she has a "guilty-conscience".


Or she's "defensive," or her response is "poll-driven" and not genuine, blah, blah, blah.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
25. It's chilling to know that an institution like the NYT enables and protects predators.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Sun Jan 28, 2018, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. Big difference between this story and the one they ran the other day is, Clinton didn't "shield"....
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

....the offender in her campaing, but the NY Times IS shielding this one.

The NY Times is becoming a very disappointing media outlet.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
28. And apparently those who run the Times have such an inflated sense of entitlement
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:49 PM
Jan 2018

that they have no problem calling people out for something that happened 10 years ago that the Times itself is doing at this very moment.

Glenn Thrush should have been fired. Apparently the NYT exempts itself from the rules they retroactively set for others.

#FireThrush

Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. Mind Boggling
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

but then this is the paper who printed an OP endorsing Stephen Miller this week so why would we expect integrity.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
35. And, this is the paper that had a big hand
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 05:08 PM
Jan 2018

in bringing us the War on Iraq with judy miller.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
39. Completely Forgoet About That Fiasco
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jan 2018

and while I thought SNL last night was a complete waste of time, Will F. made one excellent point in his portrayal of GWB. Not only did he start that fake war, we're still there.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
34. But, maggie haberman will write a FAKE Hit Job
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 05:06 PM
Jan 2018

with thrush about Hillary "shielding" the same kind of guy as thrush.

Mahalo for all your research on who is actually "Shielding", lapucelle.

haberman has a lot of gd nerve.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
37. Promoting a book, using "the Clinton Rules" of different more vindictive standards for
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 05:30 PM
Jan 2018

Bill and Hillary than anyone else doing the same or worse.

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