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Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:36 PM

This guy is risking jail to stop Mueller. What's he hiding?

.@DevinNunes wont deny he had his staff work w/ White House on "attack the FBI" memo. Congrats, dude: U just waived Congressional immunity. To be indicted for conspiracy, u dont need to know what the other hand is doing. This guy is risking jail to stop Mueller. What's he hiding?


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Reply This guy is risking jail to stop Mueller. What's he hiding? (Original post)
MelissaB Jan 2018 OP
dalton99a Jan 2018 #1
Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #16
Initech Jan 2018 #24
dchill Jan 2018 #27
NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #25
MelissaB Jan 2018 #2
tanyev Jan 2018 #12
WhiteTara Jan 2018 #3
MelissaB Jan 2018 #5
WhiteTara Jan 2018 #15
LanternWaste Jan 2018 #10
WhiteTara Jan 2018 #14
TheFrenchRazor Jan 2018 #35
Hortensis Jan 2018 #36
FreepFryer Feb 2018 #48
BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #20
WhiteTara Jan 2018 #22
dchill Jan 2018 #28
Ilsa Jan 2018 #38
BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #39
dhol82 Jan 2018 #40
WhiteTara Feb 2018 #47
MelissaB Jan 2018 #4
dalton99a Jan 2018 #8
MelissaB Jan 2018 #17
dalton99a Jan 2018 #19
MelissaB Jan 2018 #31
meadowlander Feb 2018 #44
leanforward Jan 2018 #6
sunonmars Jan 2018 #7
WhiteTara Jan 2018 #23
RandomAccess Jan 2018 #9
GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #11
Gothmog Jan 2018 #13
ffr Jan 2018 #18
uponit7771 Jan 2018 #21
LiberalArkie Jan 2018 #26
BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #29
BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #30
The Wizard Jan 2018 #32
triron Jan 2018 #37
Cicada Jan 2018 #33
meadowlander Feb 2018 #45
Post removed Feb 2018 #51
meadowlander Feb 2018 #58
Skittles Feb 2018 #46
Cicada Feb 2018 #49
Skittles Feb 2018 #50
Cicada Feb 2018 #53
Skittles Feb 2018 #54
saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #55
Cicada Feb 2018 #57
UTUSN Jan 2018 #34
dhol82 Jan 2018 #41
moondust Feb 2018 #42
Mike Niendorff Feb 2018 #43
Gothmog Feb 2018 #52
Gothmog Feb 2018 #56

Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:38 PM

1. Probably Russian mob money.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:34 PM

16. I'll say it again. They ALL took the dirty Russian Money!

You got it!

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:56 PM

24. That whole damn party is guilty of this!

And they are all coming down! I mean shit, that weasel Ron Paul was on fucking Russian State TV telling the hosts that Donald Trump is theirs again! I mean if that's not proof of collusion than what is??? It's almost like they're *TRYING* to get caught!

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:21 PM

27. It's the ONLY possible explanation.

The Rublepublican Party. Paul Ryan, Chairman.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:08 PM

25. see my thread from this morning...

On Nunes and his ties to Armenian organized crime, which is tied to Russian organized crime..


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210168287

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:42 PM

2. Devin Nunes is now in unapologetic open warfare with the FBI and federal law enforcement.

Wow, @DevinNunes is now in unapologetic open warfare with the FBI and federal law enforcement. Let's see where that leads him.





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Response to MelissaB (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:20 PM

12. Then he's strutting into a rocket launcher fight with his trusty butter knife.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:43 PM

3. According to a long twitter thread I read this morning

(sorry it was 4:30am...I was waiting for the eclipse, so I have no idea where to find it on DU) that showed he was in bed with the Armenian mob along with the Russian mob and the Putin circle. If I understand correctly, he was unmasked in an FBI sting on some Russian mobster.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:45 PM

5. I remember reading that his "wine business" had Russian ties.

It's so hard to keep all of these damn characters and their illegal activities straight.

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Response to MelissaB (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:31 PM

15. his partner is a close friend of Putin.

Because of the odd hour, I didn't quite understand about the partner...it sounded like the first one died mysteriously and then he got this new one? I'll have to try and find that, but I may have to wait until tomorrow since I didn't go back to bed after the eclipse.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:04 PM

10. I'm crossing my fingers it's not true.

 

One year ago, I would have mocked the implication. One year later, I'm crossing my fingers it's not true. What a difference a year makes.

Not because I want Nunes to be innocent, mind you... but because if it true, it's the tip of an awfully ugly, awfully large iceberg that could consume our national identity for the next twenty years.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:29 PM

14. I think it may consume our national identity forever.

I fear we will become a Russian satellite with a dictator firmly in place.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:37 PM

35. quite possible; Putin has unlimited money and hackers; they could install the GOP indefinitely. nt

 

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:49 PM

36. Seriously, I think we're about as likely to be invaded by aliens.

You do realize Russia is a pissant, underdeveloped, mostly impoverished country with an economy about the size of California's? It makes and sells a lot of weapons, but otherwise it has little industry, and most income is from exporting commodities to more advanced nations for manufacturing by them.

As for "consuming our national identity," that is a product of centuries and a product of our people who live today, and it can't just be destroyed. Real damage is being done to institutions and standards developed over more than 200 years, but our national identity is what will help restore them.

The tremendous betrayals today guarantee big societal reactions. Itm, maybe you could look inside yourself for facets of that national identity you value and commit to upholding them? That would be a good personal reaction.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #36)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 03:32 PM

48. +1000000000000000

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:51 PM

20. Yeah, I read that.

He has a winery with a Russian, money in Cypress, and some communications deal in the Azores and the Russians wanted to get into that area too. Too many Russian ties. Did he really think no one would question his behavior? He is another moron along with Ryan for telling him to release it. Remember when Rosenstein and Ryan and Nunes had a special meeting a month ago? Russia is blackmailing them both. Ryan took Russian campaign money and he may have been caught in surveillance by the FBI when they were trying to keep track of Russian activity and Ryan was unaware of it and probably is trying to save his own ass now.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:55 PM

22. Along with the Turtle, that's my take on it too.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:25 PM

28. Nunes behavior reminded me of an old saying...

"He's bouncing around like spit on a griddle."

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 09:02 PM

38. I had to be corrected by another DUer

on this also: "Cyprus."

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #38)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 09:10 PM

39. Oh good. Thanks.

I don't know if it is me or my retarded tablet autocheck that actually makes incorrect spelling, caps, and punct all the time and I have to edit everything 3 times. This happens with a lot of people with tablets.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:52 PM

40. So how the hell has he not been arrested for ......something?

Damn, the man is complicit in collusion against this country!

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #40)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 11:14 AM

47. IOKIYAR

Makes you sick, doesn't it? It does me.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:43 PM

4. Has anyone heard a reporter point out Nunes was on the Trump Transition Team?

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Response to MelissaB (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:59 PM

8. Yes, Nunes was on the executive committee of Trump's transition team

And he wasn't chosen at random

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:37 PM

17. Have you heard a reporter say this on TV?

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Response to MelissaB (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:51 PM

19. Yes, sometime last year

when Nunes went to the White House

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:44 PM

31. I wish they would hammer it now.

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Response to MelissaB (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 02:43 AM

44. Rachel Maddow does occasionally but could more often.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:47 PM

6. Exactly.

Does Nunes have an ownership in a winery? I read somewhere that a California representative changed a financial report/statement when questioned about a russian investment in that winery. Something to do with marketing.

Has he made any trips to Russia or elsewhere in the world on the pretext of wine marketing?

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Response to leanforward (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:48 PM

7. Nunes is throwing a hail Mary, trying to bail water out of a sinking kayak.

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Response to leanforward (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:56 PM

23. his partner is a close friend of Putin.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:00 PM

9. Music to my ears:

 

Congrats, dude: U just waived Congressional immunity.


Yeeehaw!!

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:20 PM

11. What's he hiding?

I can smell it from here.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:22 PM

13. MSNBC analyst asks if Devin Nunes is secretly a Russian agent

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:50 PM

18. He must have taken bribes from establishment republicans

All conservatives are corrupt!

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:55 PM

21. Exact conversation I had earlier !! No one would risk going to jail for Red Don UNLESS they're

... caught up too !

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:17 PM

26. May be nothing wrong with it. A LLC formed in Delaware with most of its startup money

from Russian investors. But the candidate gets his check cut from an American company. "Let's bring back Tammany Hall, LLC"

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:26 PM

29. Is Congressional immunity similar to lawyer-client privilege, then?

In the case of the latter, the privilege is voided by the presence of a third party. Is it then that people in Congress, or their immediate employees, are the only ones covered by this immunity?

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:37 PM

30. I decided to not be so lazy as to rely on others to learn me up, so I did some searching.

It "appears" that what I surmised has some legs, although it's not a sure thing. According to former WH ethics counsel Norm Eisen:

"The Congressional Immunity law states that members of the U.S. Congress can not be prosecuted while they are “attending a session of the body to which the member belongs, excluding an arrest for treason, breach of the peace, or a felony.”

The law also provides immunity from arrest or interrogation “for any speech or debate entered into during a legislative session.”

Neither of those provisions would seem to apply to members working with another branch of government to obstruct justice.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:20 PM

32. He is involved in the coverup

We have Russian agents in the ranks of government. Only this time it in the hierarchy of the GOP. The term Siberian Candidate used to be a laugh line. Not anymore.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:54 PM

37. yes in some way it almost must be.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 07:30 PM

33. I doubt a prosecutor would indict something so obviously political

This is good old fashioned politics and a prosecutor isn’t likely to go after that. Politics is what politicians do. Indicting Nunes would be like indicting a cat for killing a mouse. It’s what cats do.

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Response to Cicada (Reply #33)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 02:51 AM

45. Impeaching the integrity of the FBI and Justice Department

to derail an active counter-intelligence investigation isn't "good old fashioned politics". It is obstruction of justice.

Trying to normalise it is giving aide to the enemy.

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Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:28 AM

58. Are you the Head of the House Intelligence Committee?

No? Then I think it is "that different". Believe it or not a congressperson who has been given access to classified sensitive information that can lead to people being killed if it gets out is held to a slightly higher standard that the average Joe Schlub on the street. You also haven't taken an oath to defend the Constitution and you don't have a security clearance.

And so... you would obviously prefer the alternative to indicting the President, which is allowing Russian puppet leaders to dismantle our democratic institutions? That isn't "fantastically horrible for democracy"?

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Response to Cicada (Reply #33)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 05:22 AM

46. you think collusion with a foreign enemy is NORMAL?

fuck that shit

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Response to Skittles (Reply #46)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 03:52 PM

49. Trump colluded with Russia, Nunes colluded with Trump

What Nunes does is normal. See Benghazi crap.

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Response to Cicada (Reply #49)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 03:56 PM

50. no it is NOT NORMAL to cover up COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA

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Response to Skittles (Reply #50)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:03 PM

53. Our govt lies about Russia all the time, year in year out, whats new?

This time they lie the other way, forgiving them instead of persecuting them. This does not come as a surprise to me.

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Response to Cicada (Reply #53)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:03 PM

54. omg

DONE HERE

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Response to Cicada (Reply #53)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:16 PM

55. Wow, Cicada

There is a line between cynic (me) and aiding and abetting the Putin propaganda machine. The test of a critical thinker, imo, is wading the waters looking for the gem in the jetsam and flotsam.

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #55)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 08:13 PM

57. Putin sucks. Our US war machine also sucks.

We constantly invade nations and kill countless people. We have invaded dozens of nations and keep doing it. Our national security apparatus lies to us at every turn. We and Europe have constantly lied about Russia even though Russia also happens to be evil. They suck and we suck too. So a politician lying about Russia to help Trump does not strike me as outside the normal bounds of our political norms. It is just more of the same. Even tho Putin is an evil murderous creep. Was Cheney any better really?

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 08:32 PM

34. K&r

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:54 PM

41. I am thinking he is worried about a ricin needle via umbrella

Play with dogs, wake up maybe.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:17 AM

42. Yup.

I'm beginning to wonder if the GOP cabal has concluded that they only have two options:

1. Stop Mueller's investigation.

2. Go to prison, possibly for a long time.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 02:00 AM

43. K&R


Now you're catching on.


MDN

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:00 PM

52. MSNBC analyst asks if Devin Nunes is secretly a Russian agent

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 06:31 PM

56. From my twitter feed

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