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Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:33 PM Feb 2018

URGENT, what are WE going to do WHEN, not if, Rosenstein & Mueller are fired?

Which will all happen by Tuesday and by Wednesday the new boss will stop the funding for the investigation, prevent them from looking at Trump's finances, etc.

What do we do now that the GOP has collectively commited treason and is working with Russia to attack us?

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URGENT, what are WE going to do WHEN, not if, Rosenstein & Mueller are fired? (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 OP
Rosenstein's replacement can fire Mueller.. dchill Feb 2018 #1
McConnell is preparing to order that vote monday. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #2
This group lunasun Feb 2018 #3
Here's moveon's rapid reaction page NightWatcher Feb 2018 #4
Thanks . triron Feb 2018 #9
Yeah, saw that, waiting for my area to organize. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #10
LOL, someone here predicts this daily! Yet nothing! Nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #5
The cause (memo) has been out for less than an hour. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #6
Maybe lack of realizing that the predictions came way before the memo would help..... USALiberal Feb 2018 #21
It's as if some want it to happen loyalsister Feb 2018 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #19
What did we do when DACA was threatened? ollie10 Feb 2018 #7
Another day, another alert. Polly Hennessey Feb 2018 #8
I think it time for Mueller or whoever to knock on Trumps door with a little message. onecent Feb 2018 #11
No one is getting fired over this 'memo'. It's a HUGE nothingburger. beaglelover Feb 2018 #12
OMG do I wish, but i will give you 3-1 Rosenstein is fired and soon. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #13
Define soon and I'll bet you $1000! Let me know. n/t USALiberal Feb 2018 #22
Nunes might. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #14
I am going to say it again, WHAT do we do when, not if, Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #15
Looks like upholding the democracy in this country HipChick Feb 2018 #17
Vote. Register others. tazkcmo Feb 2018 #31
Doing something after they get fired Sampan Feb 2018 #16
Americans just arent wired that way BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #20
Oh for sure Europeans bdamomma Feb 2018 #32
What would you have us do edhopper Feb 2018 #23
I dont know either, that is why I am asking. If we rely on elections, we might be screwed. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #24
There will be bedlam, but it will take a few days, in my opinion. LuckyCharms Feb 2018 #25
Not Rachel Brand. tazkcmo Feb 2018 #34
FYI Sessions went out of his way to praise Rosenstein today emulatorloo Feb 2018 #26
But can trump directly fire Rosenstein? We know he is a chickenshit and Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #27
I dont know enough about the procedure at DOJ to answer you emulatorloo Feb 2018 #28
Yes he can. tazkcmo Feb 2018 #36
Rosenstein Horizens Feb 2018 #29
Donnie Deutsch of all people said there should be revolution radius777 Feb 2018 #30
Will we be hacked and down for a week again? davekriss Feb 2018 #33
I don't think bdamomma Feb 2018 #35
Who would make him over? Not the GOP, that is the problem. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #37
I've done 3 NYC marches since the fool was inaugurated. There will be more. I kept my pink sign lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #38
Thank you , I have marched as well. We may need to be a little more forceful though Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #39

dchill

(38,418 posts)
1. Rosenstein's replacement can fire Mueller..
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:43 PM
Feb 2018

after he/she is chosen and confirmed by the Senate. That should take a while.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
3. This group
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:54 PM
Feb 2018

By firing Rosenstein or Mueller, the President would trigger a full-fledged Constitutional crisis by asserting that he is above the law. The hours following the firing will determine whether he is proved right.
https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/search/?source=MFT
should the President fire Rosenstein or Mueller, if that isn't the moment they put country over party to hold the President accountable, it's not clear whether it will ever happen. Let's show our lawmakers that we won't stand by while they allow Donald Trump to slide the US into authoritarianism.
https://www.marchfortruth.info/mueller-rapid-response/

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. The cause (memo) has been out for less than an hour.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 02:00 PM
Feb 2018

"Yet nothing!"

The cause (memo) has been out for less than an hour. Allow time for effect (dismissals and personnel changes).

Patience is not simply a family name, it's also something we learn to practice after becoming adults, regardless of the petulance insertion of "lol."

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
21. Maybe lack of realizing that the predictions came way before the memo would help.....
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:15 PM
Feb 2018

but I notice you like to post a lot of cryptic mutterings.

Response to USALiberal (Reply #5)

onecent

(6,096 posts)
11. I think it time for Mueller or whoever to knock on Trumps door with a little message.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 04:14 PM
Feb 2018

If he has done this once......and so far nothing REVOLTING HAS HAPPENED.....dOTARD CAN DO IT AGAIN.

Time to get rid of a bunch of these cads......TOO MANY PEOPLE WANTED THIS TOO HAPPEN....

TO MANY REPUBLICANS CONGRATULATED trump for doing it...

THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
15. I am going to say it again, WHAT do we do when, not if,
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 04:52 PM
Feb 2018

he does these things?

Suggestions?

I know we can march, what else?

tazkcmo

(7,298 posts)
31. Vote. Register others.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:09 PM
Feb 2018

On election day, offer rides to the polls. Protest daily at representatives offices. In short, raise hell until midterms. Short of violence, there isn't much more to do but these are suggestions.

Sampan

(121 posts)
16. Doing something after they get fired
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:47 PM
Feb 2018

serves no purpose. Something’s got to be done NOW! But let’s all just moan and complain and wring our hands about what’s going to happen and what’s already happened. That’ll get The Monster’s attention, yessiree!

BannonsLiver

(16,275 posts)
20. Americans just arent wired that way
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:06 PM
Feb 2018

Sure folks get together once a year, but let’s get real, I can think of at least three or four countries in Europe where the populace would have burned this cabal to the ground by now.

bdamomma

(63,773 posts)
32. Oh for sure Europeans
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:10 PM
Feb 2018

are totally different. They take to the streets and they don't play nice either. This regime needs a little taste of their own medicine.

Doesn't anyone remember when we wanted tRump to show his tax returns and he responded "oh the American people don't want to see my tax returns" hmmm....are they trying to think for us??? a big hell no from me. Just shows how disrespectful they are.

Also the repigs are the biggest cowards they ran away from their constituents for town halls.

So cowardly.


edhopper

(33,432 posts)
23. What would you have us do
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:23 PM
Feb 2018

until we convince enough voters to throw out the GOP, there is nothing we can do.
The GOP Congress will sit on their hands and do nothing.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
24. I dont know either, that is why I am asking. If we rely on elections, we might be screwed.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:39 PM
Feb 2018

I think the most important thing to do is get people REGISTERED to vote and if they live where they are unconstitutionally and illegally required to have ID, get them the ID

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
25. There will be bedlam, but it will take a few days, in my opinion.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:01 PM
Feb 2018

I think a slow chain reaction will start once Mueller is actually fired.

We have to remember that it is 4th and long for Donnie. He probably never thought things would get this bad for him. So here is what I think will happen.

He will fire Rosenstein next week most likely. He will be replaced with Rachel Brand. Brand will refuse to fire Mueller. Trump will fire Brand, and he will keep going to the point to which he finds someone to fire Mueller. It may not be an outright firing of Mueller, but it will be some severe hindrance to the investigation. If/when he can't find someone to fire Mueller or hinder the investigation, he will do something insane and try to fire Mueller himself. He will do whatever he thinks he can get away with to fire Mueller.

In the meantime, nothing is getting done in Congress. The CR expires shortly, and that issue has to be resolved. So in the middle of all of this, there may be another Government shutdown.

All of these things meet in a perfect storm and the Government becomes completely impotent. Leaks will start happening left and right, and there will be rumors of martial law becoming imminent, or rumors that Trump is going to start a war with NK.

The planned and organized marches that began the minute Trump fires Rosenstein will grow exponentially larger. They will morph into something huge as people finally realize the gravity of the situation. Millions will protest.

At this point, it is anyone's guess what will happen. The country will be in a state of shock and true crisis. I'm not predicting it at all, but I'm saying there is a chance that the entire country will be thrown into some state of mass violence. The result? Who knows. When your POTUS is insane, I guess anything can happen.

tazkcmo

(7,298 posts)
34. Not Rachel Brand.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:17 PM
Feb 2018

Appointing her would not accomplish the mission. Shitgibbon can appoint anybody that was already confirmed by the Senate and is a Loyal Trumpkin. He would appoint one of those turds because they will cover his ass.

Of course I am probably giving Shitgibbon too much credit for brains and you are correct.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
27. But can trump directly fire Rosenstein? We know he is a chickenshit and
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:20 PM
Feb 2018

has NEVER personally fired anyone in his life, that he ALWAYS has someone do it for him because he is a FUCKING CRYBABY

can he?

tazkcmo

(7,298 posts)
36. Yes he can.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:25 PM
Feb 2018

He can fire pretty much anybody in a leadership position but it can't be to cover up a crime. That is why the memo comes into play. If it can be shown Rosenstein is not performing his duties competently then Shitgibbon is within his rights to fire him.

Shitgibbon has a problem. He has no credibility nor does Nunes so Mueller will be handed another piece of obstruction evidence upon Rosenstein being fired.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
29. Rosenstein
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:56 PM
Feb 2018

He'll fire Rosenstein citing this nothing burger memo as justification. He'll then replace him with a cabinet member who 1.) won't have to be confirmed by the senate and 2.) choke off Mueller's investigation.

I don't think there's anything we can do at that point. For now raise hell on social media, call/write any/all congress creatures you can.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
30. Donnie Deutsch of all people said there should be revolution
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:08 PM
Feb 2018

in the streets if either Rosestein or Mueller is fired, that our democracy is being usurped right before our eyes.

Deutsch is your typical moderate Repub type, so I think that reaction will spread throughout the center of America, leading to the Dems retaking congress and impeaching Trump.

bdamomma

(63,773 posts)
35. I don't think
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:20 PM
Feb 2018

either Rosenstein or Mueller will be fired by this POS, if it does happen tRump will be over.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
37. Who would make him over? Not the GOP, that is the problem.
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:03 PM
Feb 2018

I think this is so much worse than we understand.

David Frum talked about it on Real Time last night, very scary.

lindysalsagal

(20,547 posts)
38. I've done 3 NYC marches since the fool was inaugurated. There will be more. I kept my pink sign
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:08 PM
Feb 2018

from last month. Gonna get more use out of it, I'm sure.

Same with the pink hat, scarf, and gloves. We're organized, now. People are enjoying getting out in the streets, and the press is covering it well.

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