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Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:38 PM

Great ad from the Candidate running against Nunes


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Reply Great ad from the Candidate running against Nunes (Original post)
Gothmog Feb 2018 OP
Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #1
OnDoutside Feb 2018 #3
erronis Feb 2018 #12
OnDoutside Feb 2018 #2
Vinca Feb 2018 #4
ResIpsa Feb 2018 #5
BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #6
Cha Feb 2018 #8
BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #11
Cha Feb 2018 #43
Gothmog Feb 2018 #69
Cha Feb 2018 #70
Gothmog Feb 2018 #21
Cha Feb 2018 #44
Gothmog Feb 2018 #49
Cha Feb 2018 #51
SergeStorms Feb 2018 #46
Cha Feb 2018 #48
Gothmog Mar 2018 #77
Cha Feb 2018 #7
Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #9
Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #10
sheshe2 Feb 2018 #13
ffr Feb 2018 #14
tecelote Feb 2018 #15
GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #16
tecelote Feb 2018 #17
Shrike47 Feb 2018 #18
Gothmog Feb 2018 #28
tecelote Feb 2018 #33
Gothmog Feb 2018 #50
charliea Feb 2018 #37
tecelote Feb 2018 #38
GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #53
herding cats Feb 2018 #55
Upthevibe Feb 2018 #23
tecelote Feb 2018 #31
Hortensis Feb 2018 #41
tecelote Feb 2018 #45
SunSeeker Feb 2018 #54
Cha Feb 2018 #57
SunSeeker Feb 2018 #60
Cha Feb 2018 #61
brer cat Feb 2018 #65
SunSeeker Feb 2018 #66
Hortensis Feb 2018 #62
herding cats Feb 2018 #64
LanternWaste Feb 2018 #74
Gothmog Feb 2018 #24
tecelote Feb 2018 #32
George II Feb 2018 #39
tecelote Feb 2018 #42
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BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #52
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world wide wally Feb 2018 #67
Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #19
onetexan Feb 2018 #20
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Upthevibe Feb 2018 #26
Gothmog Feb 2018 #25
Upthevibe Feb 2018 #27
deurbano Feb 2018 #36
Skittles Feb 2018 #29
SunSeeker Feb 2018 #58
Gothmog Feb 2018 #30
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Tatiana Feb 2018 #34
Leith Feb 2018 #35
Hulk Feb 2018 #40
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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:40 PM

1. Nice ad...I hope it works...

I hear his district is well conditioned, though.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:42 PM

3. I'd keep hammering away at the Russian connection. No one likes voting for a traitor.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:22 PM

12. Are you sure? I hope so. It depends on the definition of "traitor"

And the repuglicans have warped it so that a red-state hillbilly would outright vote for Hitler or Stalin if they were presented as an american figure.

Boy, my own statement just made me realize how dependent we are on labels, and how they are themselves warped.

Signing off - radical liberal atheist.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:41 PM

2. I LOVE it !!!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:45 PM

4. I heard a couple of Nunes' constituents calling him the greatest thing since

sliced bread this afternoon. They think he's a patriot. Uphill climb in that district even going against a traitor.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:47 PM

5. His district is Red....but not Soviet Red.

 

There comes a time when folks realize the jigs up. Even Republicans can vote for a Democrat. It happens. Especially when the alternative is a Communistic Traitor to Our Democracy. Not sure 'Big Agra', is ready to trade profits for the collective. Russia is challenging us. The pacific isn't that far away, hard to grow crops in Tulare when the soil is glowing. We can change this. Wait til they start spotting the subs and spy ships off the coast, and they get hip to things like an EMP attack. Things can change. Have faith.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:14 PM

8. Devin Nunes May Accomplish the Difficult Task of Making Himself Vulnerable Back Home



Thanks, BP

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:20 PM

11. Thank YOU!

I have a tablet and can't post pictures as well as a ton of other stuff....very frustrating.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:29 PM

43. I bet.. and you're Welcome..

Thank You!

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Response to Cha (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:17 PM

69. This billboard was on the Beat with Ari Melber


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #69)

Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:19 PM

70. Good ol Ari!

Mahalo, Gothmog

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:16 PM

21. I love this billboard

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:35 PM

44. Poor nunes.. everybody's calling him out

for being a stupid, driveling, traitor.

Have you seen this on nunes from Jimmy Kimmel, Goth? excellent..



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Response to Cha (Reply #44)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:56 PM

49. Thank you for posting this-I love Kimmel

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #49)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:14 PM

51. Yep, Jimmy layed it out nice

and simple for the folks not up to speed.

And the WSJ today..

WSJ: Strzok and Page Texts Show No Anti-Trump Conspiracy

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10180885

the crooked elite trump must be livid that the WSJ/Murdoch isn't playing nice about his stooge, devil nunes, and their conspiracy theories.

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:48 PM

46. That freaking billboard is MAGNIFICENT!

I love it, I love it.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #46)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:50 PM

48. Ain't it so, Serge!

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Response to Cha (Reply #48)

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 08:39 AM

77. From my twitter feed


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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:10 PM

7. Thank you, Andrew Janz!

Thanks Goth

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:17 PM

9. How conservative is this district? nt

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:19 PM

10. Great ad.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:33 PM

13. KnR

For Andrew Janz!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:35 PM

14. From Roy Moore to Kevin Nunes, conservatives must be hanging their heads in shame

And if they're not, be sure to remind them. How embarrassing!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:36 PM

15. Going low.

This is not a great ad.

We know nothing about what Andrew Janz stands for. He could be a white supremacist hiding behind this ad.

This is a Republican style attack ad. We're better than this.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:46 PM

16. I disagree when go low means telling the truth

Remember, when they go low, we kick them in the face.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:51 PM

17. No. I don't remember.

We want to win voters confidence not kick Republicans in the face.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:59 PM

18. I personally want to kick them in the face but that is not who we Democrats are.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:24 PM

28. I like anyone who can beat a republican hack like Nunes


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #28)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:30 PM

33. Agreed.

This is a better ad.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #33)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:57 PM

50. Today's ad had a specific goal that was met

The candidate got some good press and raised $100,000
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Response to tecelote (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:50 PM

37. Telling the truth is essential to building Trust and Confidence

Mr. Janz's ad appears just be news clips, from Fox, CNN and MSNBC. It seems to be nothing more than a 30 second Cliff Notes overview of Nunes's activity for the course of the Russian investigation, for those who haven't been paying attention.

Didn't even hear mention of Nunes 'recusing' himself. That's something that even Sessions appears to have honored.

How is that 'low' or off putting?

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Response to charliea (Reply #37)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:01 PM

38. Nunes is bad. No problem with the ad showing that.

But Janz is...?

Give us some substance. We're not sheep. We're not Republicans. At least hint at who Janz is.


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Response to tecelote (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:42 PM

53. Metaphorically, of course

We need to slam them with their lies. Total ridicule and questioning their patriotism.

That is what kicking in the face means to me. No quarter.

Every Democratic Congressperson should be screaming that Nunes is a Russian tool. And laughing at him. They cannot stand being made a joke.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:51 PM

55. Right. Democrats should let this opportunity show Nunes for the lying snake he is pass them by.

Which would lead to other Democrats saying Janz is spineless and can't go on the attack.

I like the ad and I think exploiting Nunes being a lying partisan scumbag is a great idea! The truth will be their undoing.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:20 PM

23. I live in California and I like this ad. You don't realize that we need a Republican

style attack ad? You say "we're better than this"? I'm pretty tired of taking knives to gun fights.

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:27 PM

31. This ad does nothing. It won't change a single mind.

Republicans are self destructing. Why get in the way?

Why stoop to their level? Why allow them to say we are the same?



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Response to tecelote (Reply #31)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:25 PM

41. Strongly disagree it stoops anywhere near their level, Tecelote.

This is fundamentally a presentation of facts, and truth versus their intense use of lies is a complete difference. You may dislike it's strong, agrressive style, but that doesn't turn it into lies.

In contrast, Republicans cannot discuss any issue without lying because their goals are so far from the wishes of most of their own people. They lie constantly about themselves and also about us because only by fooling people into believing we're satan can they get away with what they're doing.

True, the question about whether Nunes has been compromised by Russia is not a statement of truth, and is over the line. But even that falls far short of the slimy techniques normally employed by Republicans. At least in this case many objective professional observers have been wondering and talking about just that for over a year. Because this isn't a phony scandal manufactured by professional swiftboaters out of nothing. It's the real thing, even if some huge questions, like why?, aren't answered yet.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #41)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:36 PM

45. It does a good job of painting Nunes as the scum he is.

It says nothing about Janz.

"...and also about us because only by fooling people into believing we're satan can they get away with what they're doing."

Maybe include some reasons why he is better? Otherwise, it's the same game. Nunes may be bad but we're still satan.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #45)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:06 PM

54. It's not the only ad Janz will run. He'll declare his policy positions in other ads.

But this is an ad that must be run. It does a "good job" as you admit of showing (you oddly use the word "painting"-- suggesting the ad is not true?) that Nunes is scum. It exposes Nunes to his Fox-watching constituents who may not know this stuff.

Oh and WTF: "Nunes may be bad but we're still satan."

Who would think that?

You have Nunes on the one hand conspiring with Trump to obstruct justice and block prosecution of Russia interfering with our Democracy....and you have Janz on the other hand who is reporting that. How the fuck does that make Janz satan?! Or even in the same league as Nunes? How the fuck does calling out bad acts "bring you down to the level" of the the bad actor?!




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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #54)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 01:55 AM

57. Jeeze! Thanks for Clarifying the hell outta

that, SunSeeker!

"..paints nunes as scum.."? nunes Paints himself as scum.. No Ifs Ands or Buts.

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Response to Cha (Reply #57)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:38 AM

60. Janz was just revealing Nunes' true colors.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #60)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:45 AM

61. Yeah, that's not an attack.. that's

Revelations!

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #54)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 09:02 AM

65. +1

It's not the only ad Janz will run. He'll declare his policy positions in other ads.


Of course. And why wouldn't he respond to what is happening now? Attack while Nunes is top of the news and we need our position to be heard; there is plenty of time to run ads differentiating himself from Nunes.

Unfortunately, with some DUers it's damned if you do and damned if you don't.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #65)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 01:49 PM

66. I know, right? So much for the meme we're spineless and not fighting hard enough.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #45)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:47 AM

62. So we're satan? And as bad as Repubs--for speaking truth

about Nunes in an ad instead of informing about Janz?

You chose a bad position based on a bad premise, and your argument's going downhill. Don't know why you chose it in the first place. There's no virtuous ground to claim by denigrating the use of truth in political ads. Claiming that the ad is low, as bad as Republicans, specifically because it didn't delete half those truths to talk up Janz is bogus.

Ironically, while trying to build a case for how bad this ad is, you inserted "white supremacist" into discussion of Janz twice, claiming it's our fault people don't know he's not because we're so low. You may not realize it, but Republicans work overtime every election looking for places to insert those kind of associations, standard right-wing dirty trick.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #31)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:27 AM

64. Do you live in this district?

If not what gives you the authority to say anything about what people there think?

On edit: Are you the same person I asked this of in another thread? Damn, but you are! Please, refer to my more comprehensive reply to you in your other posts on this topic. Oh, and if you don't live there stop letting your feelings lead you to think you have a right to dictate their politics. That's not how it works in the real world. If you live there then get out and get busy locally to get your voice heard. I looked and have no reply from you on my other post yet I don't know if you're local.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:22 AM

74. What specifically leads you to allege that?

"This ad does nothing. It won't change a single mind..."
What specifically leads you to allege that, and on what evidence is it supported?

And, for clarification, is this unedited quote from you "going low?" If not, what is the relevant difference?
"Americans that Love America but Hate Americans Call themselves Republican..."

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Response to tecelote (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:20 PM

24. Really?


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:28 PM

32. Really.

That's a better ad.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:13 PM

39. He has a nice website that explains what he stands for. Look at his picture, I doubt....

....he's a white supremacist!

Sheesh, sometimes I wonder.

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Response to George II (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:26 PM

42. Look at his picture, I doubt....

....he's a white supremacist!

Because, they all look alike?

The ad says nothing about him. It doesn't even list his nice website.

Sheesh, sometimes I wonder.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #42)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:49 PM

47. Well, a couple of things:

1. You can click on his name in the tweet and it'll take you to his twitter page, which has the link to his nice website.

Or.....

2. Look at the upper right corner of your screen, there's a dialog box next to the word "Google". Type in his name and I guarantee you'll find a link to his nice website.

In fact, he has his email address on his website. You can send him an email and ask him if he's a white supremacist. I'm sure he'll let you know.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 09:24 PM

52. Why must anyone consider a vote against something as less than valid?

 

Polly Pocket could run against Nunes and be the better candidate.

I honestly have a hard time understanding anyone fussing over any candidate running against Nunes.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:09 AM

63. Thre ad is perfect for

that district.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 03:51 PM

67. You don't have to say everything in one ad.

It is a good ad and I am sure the people in his district either already knows what he stands for or will learn shortly.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:10 PM

19. Great ad and tweet! nt

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:12 PM

20. well played by Janz

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:17 PM

22. I think it's terrible ... too busy, too much information, & nothing endearing about Janz

Keep it simple (stupid).

Amateurish attempt in my professional opinion. I've been in advertising over 3 decades.

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Response to Auggie (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:23 PM

26. I think they need to try to capitalize on the moment.....n/t

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:22 PM

25. Janz has raised $100,000 today


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:23 PM

27. Excellent...n/t

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:39 PM

36. Motivated me to donate.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:25 PM

29. trolls really hate this

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Response to Skittles (Reply #29)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:03 AM

58. Indeed.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:26 PM

30. http://Nunesmemo.com redirects to homepage for Nunes challenger's campaign


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 02:04 AM

59. Brilliant!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:32 PM

34. This ad is FANTASTIC!

This is exactly how we need to fight and I'm going to mozy on over and drop a bit of change in Janz's bucket.

Did we forget how the GOP mocked Kerry, who ACTUALLY SERVED in the military with purple heart band-aids?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/

How about the swift boat ad against Kerry that called him a "sell out?"



We are dealing with an enemy without principles and we need someone willing to turn the weapons they use against them. That's the only way they will back down and learn their lesson.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 07:32 PM

35. The Ad Keeps Repeating "Nunes"

You don't hear who is running against him until the end.

It needs more Janz, less Nunes.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 08:25 PM

40. Watch....I'm betting he will "want to spend more time with his family"...

...and the gop will find some other "clean" candidate to run for his seat.

The repuKKKes are a smart bunch of criminals. They aren't going to go quietly. Beware!!!

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:39 PM

56. K and R. Kick Nunes' ass.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:44 PM

68. And THAT...is how it is done

No prisoners, no quarter

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Wed Feb 7, 2018, 05:49 PM

71. Nunes could lose


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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:01 AM

72. This is great news


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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:19 AM

73. I don't see that Nunes has a primary opponent, and that's a huge shame

since his district is so deep red. If Democrats can't take the seat, losing it to another Republican would be good.
If Mueller's investigation were to cause him the kind of trouble that could cause him to lose, it would need to be within the next 6 months since, despite Comey's sedition-level behavior, it seems extremely unlikely that Mueller would take actions that could devastate the Republican Party within 90 days of the election.

The California Democratic Party, while targeting Nunes, has also targeted another corrupt Republican also under federal investigation, Congressman Duncan Hunter. GOP colleagues have reportedly also gossiped pretty freely about his drinking and womanizing in DC, and behaviors apparently so bad they're attributed by apologists to "PTSD." Might be that trouble for one would hurt the other also.

San Diego Union Tribune: Rep. Duncan Hunter's GOP colleagues reportedly worry about his re-election prospects — and his conduct Typical of the swipes was the unnamed Republican lawmaker who said, “He’s enjoyed his time in Washington — probably a little too much.”

They also described efforts by friendly lawmakers to get the 41-year old representative help, citing possible post-traumatic stress disorder from his military service.

Politico reported that the GOP is concerned that Hunter’s ongoing criminal investigation could leave the party with an election day disaster in which they lose one of the reddest seats in California to a Democrat.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sd-me-gop-hunter-20180208-story.html


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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:27 PM

75. From my twitter feed


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Thu Mar 29, 2018, 12:02 AM

76. Yeah


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