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Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:09 PM

This Is What Nightmares Are Made Of

Bad enough that Trump is trying to systematically unravel the US government. But Josh Marshall at TPM has a report from South Korea, a newspaper account presumably indicating that a US official behind closed doors said that the Trump Administration was considering a limited strike on North Korea because . . .

It could help in the midterm elections.

Sweet Jesus.

Link here:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/very-very-bad

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Reply This Is What Nightmares Are Made Of (Original post)
peggysue2 Feb 2018 OP
Cha Feb 2018 #1
peggysue2 Feb 2018 #4
Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #2
peggysue2 Feb 2018 #5
RDANGELO Feb 2018 #3
peggysue2 Feb 2018 #7
Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #6
peggysue2 Feb 2018 #9
Blue Owl Feb 2018 #8
dewsgirl Feb 2018 #10
spanone Feb 2018 #11
peggysue2 Feb 2018 #12
OliverQ Feb 2018 #13
peggysue2 Feb 2018 #14
muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #20
smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #21
WhiteTara Feb 2018 #15
Cha Feb 2018 #16
lunasun Feb 2018 #17
ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2018 #18
smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #22
Kristofer Bry Feb 2018 #19
treestar Feb 2018 #23

Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:11 PM

1. Kick for now..

I'll be back.

Mahalo, peggysue

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:19 PM

4. Back to you, Cha!

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:16 PM

2. Now thats some scary shit

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:20 PM

5. Scary . . .

and unfortunately believable considering the character of the man

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:17 PM

3. I have heard that the military is resitisting; I hope that they can hold out.

He keeps asking for plans for a limited strike on North Korea, but they are stalling.

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Response to RDANGELO (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:34 PM

7. I read earlier this week that . . .

The Trumpster was railing at the Pentagon to give him additional 'options' for North Korea. One could imagine an actual strike was not on the list as a viable option. For a whole lot of reasons.

But there was also a report out that the Trumpster is very interested in small nuclear devices for these 'limited strike' scenarios. He seems fascinated or maybe obsessed with the idea of using nuclear arms. Right from the beginning it was: well if we have nuclear weapons, why don't we use them?

It's as if he's never considered or heard the deterrence argument. I have read that the military is flatly against developing these small weapons because it will simply make this type of warfare more likely.

But the cavalier idea of using a North Korean strike (of any sort) to beef up chances in the midterms?? There's the tail wagging the dog. And then, there's the tail blowing up the dog and the whole frigging world.

Ugh!

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:22 PM

6. I wish we had a recording of that statement.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:37 PM

9. Yes!

Absolutely because it would blow Trump and his fat ass right out of the water.

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:36 PM

8. Destruction bolstering deception

Most hideous...

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:41 PM

10. I'm glad this is making the rounds, I was afraid

It would get buried. Frickin terrifying.

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 10:58 PM

11. I would not put it past him.

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Response to spanone (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:19 PM

12. That's the truly horrible part

It is hideous as Blue Owl stated. It is terrifying as dewsgirl said. And yes, I agree completely--none of us would put it past him.

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:20 PM

13. Ted Lieu has been tweeting about this and wants this guy to resign immediately.

 

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:27 PM

14. Yup!

Here it is:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If below quote is accurate, National Security Council Member Matthew Pottinger must resign immediately. Whether to use military force and put our troops and other Americans at risk in N Korea must be based on US national security, not whether it would help in midterm elections. <a href="https://t.co/TwDrY63oHe">https://t.co/TwDrY63oHe</a></p> Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) <a href="
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thank God for Ted Lieu!

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 04:46 AM

20. Pottinger is a Flynn hire - they wrote a book together some years ago

Meanwhile, Flynn is busily filling up the National Security Council staff with military and intelligence officers he knows personally. For example, as the Nelson Report first reported, Flynn intends to make Matthew Pottinger the senior director for Asia on the NSC staff.

Pottinger, a former Wall Street Journal reporter in China, joined the Marines in 2005. While deployed in Afghanistan as an intelligence officer, he worked closely with Flynn and co-authored a memo on how to fix intelligence operations in Afghanistan that was later released by a Washington think tank in 2010.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/06/mattis-clashing-with-trump-transition-team-over-pentagon-staffing/?utm_term=.5873c1ff6bb8

(the next NSC picks that article talks about Flynn making are Sebastian Gorka and K.T. MacFarland. What a nest of snakes!)

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 09:06 AM

21. +1000

I love Ted Lieu. I wish he could run for President.

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:30 PM

15. I don't think they are humans.

They certainly have no appreciation/reverence for life in any form.

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 11:46 PM

16. Crooked Elite trump is so gd stupid..

he'd start World War 3 to try and get his doormats in congress to continue his fascist agenda

It sounds like trumpapocalypse.

Thanks, peggysue

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:07 AM

17. Deplorable

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:33 AM

18. I Genuinely Don't Know If America Can Survive Another 3 Years

And I'm not saying that hyperbolically. It really does feel like we've been taken over by a hostile entity that is systematically dismantling all the institutions that make this country what it is. And what really sickens me is that there is about 30% of the population CHEERLEADING for its demise. They're too busy waving pom-poms at "their team" and crowing about "we won" to see that they're going to go down with the ship too.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 09:18 AM

22. +1000

I hear you. I don't know if we can survive another 3 years either. I'm pretty sure I can't. It has already seemed like an eternity and I feel traumatized. He has to go soon. The country does not deserve this level of torture.

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 12:37 AM

19. Sadly Unsurprising

 

Trump is the lowest of the low.

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Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 10:47 AM

23. To think that he has on value for anyone else's lives

over his short term interests.

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