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As a liberal and as a Philadelphian (Original Post) PCIntern Feb 2018 OP
Go Iggles cyclonefence Feb 2018 #1
Did you leave anything out? shraby Feb 2018 #2
I dont think so. Nt PCIntern Feb 2018 #4
A good test for any missed slurs is to imagine Hortensis Feb 2018 #8
Northeast Philly here! brucefan Feb 2018 #3
Me too! whathehell Feb 2018 #57
Philadelphia Mills area brucefan Feb 2018 #58
Wow.. whathehell Feb 2018 #59
Rhawnhurst is in NE Phily brucefan Feb 2018 #66
Forner NE Phila DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #73
I know Torresdale.. whathehell Feb 2018 #83
Lived in Bensalem from the ages of 2 - 11 PCIntern Feb 2018 #84
And if you think Tom Brady brucefan Feb 2018 #5
+2! KPN Feb 2018 #9
But hes MY goody two shoes. nt PCIntern Feb 2018 #12
Yeah brucefan Feb 2018 #48
"Gods writing an unbelievable story and hes getting all the glory!" Carson Wentz. pangaia Feb 2018 #36
You and me both underthematrix Feb 2018 #6
I tried rooting for the Eagles but I just can't Jersey Devil Feb 2018 #7
Are you a Giant Fan or an Air Conditioner? nt PCIntern Feb 2018 #11
A lot of the Pats players despise Trump budkin Feb 2018 #10
Hate to bring up facts SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #42
The home state of the Pats has a GOP gov and the home state of the Eagles has a Dem Gov BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #76
So do I, man. Hayduke Bomgarte Feb 2018 #13
Oh yeah! yardwork Feb 2018 #14
Thank goodness I don't feel that way about any other team Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #15
I know. I am not a Pats fan at all, but I have been taken aback by posters here calling the team Tipperary Feb 2018 #77
Trumpism is pushing a lot of people on the left to become the thing they hate Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #80
Wow, way to broad brush a whole team. Fla Dem Feb 2018 #16
I don't think there is any doubt they have been cheating for years. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #17
PATRIOTS will slink out in an air of shame when cornball 24 Feb 2018 #18
For the record. CentralMass Feb 2018 #19
I dont give a fk. Nt PCIntern Feb 2018 #25
Clearly. CentralMass Feb 2018 #46
Yup, I lived in the Philadelphia area for a dozen or more years. Eagles fans very rowdy. Fla Dem Feb 2018 #74
That's nothing BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #78
Wow, that is just plain ugly. Think what they are teaching their children. Tipperary Feb 2018 #85
Don't confuse people with reality and facts. Blue_true Feb 2018 #72
New England is BLUE mindfulNJ Feb 2018 #20
+1 CentralMass Feb 2018 #21
Yes. Vote blue, Go Pats! Croney Feb 2018 #54
Yes.!! Hope they win. Duppers Feb 2018 #69
Love New England. Hard to like Brady or Belichick sharedvalues Feb 2018 #22
I used to be a hardcore Pats fan. No more. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #23
While maybe for you, Kraft is not that simple to read. CentralMass Feb 2018 #24
And Mussolini made the trains run on time. Nt PCIntern Feb 2018 #26
He's a billionaire who likes other billionaires regardless of party. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #64
All 6 New England States voted blue louis c Feb 2018 #27
Go Patriots !!!!!!! mgardener Feb 2018 #43
Hehhhhhhhhhh! democratisphere Feb 2018 #28
I'm sick of their asses. Go EAGLES. Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #29
The important thing is that you have been able to maintain an objective POV. grantcart Feb 2018 #30
Fly Eagles fly!!! Fuck the Patriots! Initech Feb 2018 #31
Respectfully, the Pats are gonna make a cooked bird out of the Eagles berni_mccoy Feb 2018 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #67
The Patriots are the Yankees of football Freddie Feb 2018 #33
As a native Philadelphian who lives in Maine,... MarianJack Feb 2018 #34
As a liberal who lived in NE for 23 years and Phila for 8 years NRaleighLiberal Feb 2018 #35
Hey Pat fans start your own thread.. LakeArenal Feb 2018 #37
Yo!!!!! Nt PCIntern Feb 2018 #38
This reminds me of when the Giants won the World Series Dreamer Tatum Feb 2018 #39
Go Eagles Tree-Hugger Feb 2018 #40
When I watch football, which is very rarely these last few years, pangaia Feb 2018 #41
GO EAGLES! from a Bronco fan. mountain grammy Feb 2018 #44
Fly Eagles Fly Tim4319 Feb 2018 #45
I refuse to watch the game but am rooting for Philly. appleannie1943 Feb 2018 #47
You are entirely correct. PCIntern Feb 2018 #50
This lifelong Steeler fan is rooting for the Eagles DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #49
GO PATS - BRADY RULES!!!!!111 jpak Feb 2018 #51
So much for :evilgin: PCIntern Feb 2018 #52
:rottenrum: jpak Feb 2018 #56
As a die hard Vikings fan forthemiddle Feb 2018 #53
You mean the '"Iggles" whathehell Feb 2018 #55
GO BIRDS!!!! SaveOurDemocracy Feb 2018 #60
that Brady guy just seems extremely smarmy Skittles Feb 2018 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #62
The trash function works great for threads like this. madinmaryland Feb 2018 #63
Take your own advice ... Trash, don't Crash SaveOurDemocracy Feb 2018 #65
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #68
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #70
Because Philly is as Blue as it gets. PCIntern Feb 2018 #71
Nicely done malaise Feb 2018 #79
Dear PCIntern Tracer Feb 2018 #75
Tracer: PCIntern Feb 2018 #82
DU Rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2018 #81
Sports should be fun. I simply cannot imagine feeling actual hatred for another sports team. Tipperary Feb 2018 #86

brucefan

(1,549 posts)
3. Northeast Philly here!
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:15 PM
Feb 2018

Born in 1956,so old enough to remember going to a game at Franklin Field. Go Eagles!

whathehell

(29,100 posts)
59. Wow..
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 06:11 PM
Feb 2018

You know, I've been away for 20 years and I THINK I know that area (my dad liked to play the horses at Liberty Bell) but does it have another name..Rhawnhurst or something?

brucefan

(1,549 posts)
66. Rhawnhurst is in NE Phily
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 06:30 PM
Feb 2018

but this area is known as Torresdale. I used to walk horses at Liberty Bell as a lad, and later as a busboy in the clubhouse, maybe i crossed paths with your dad.

whathehell

(29,100 posts)
83. I know Torresdale..
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 06:32 AM
Feb 2018

I remember a German American place called Constatter's Hall there.

It was a nice area when I was growing up..My dad was an avid fan of the Racetrack, so yes, you may well have crossed paths with him.

PCIntern

(25,623 posts)
84. Lived in Bensalem from the ages of 2 - 11
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 06:36 AM
Feb 2018

From 1955-66.

Could see the racetrack from my house all lit up at night.

Jersey Devil

(9,879 posts)
7. I tried rooting for the Eagles but I just can't
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:21 PM
Feb 2018

I'm a Giants fan and that would be like asking a Yankee fan to root for the Red Sox. All the games at Giants Stadium and MetLife with Eagle fans throwing crap from the upper deck and starting fights make it impossible.

SCantiGOP

(13,875 posts)
42. Hate to bring up facts
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:41 PM
Feb 2018

But the home state of the Pats is ultra blue, while PA voted for Trump.
Just saying, and I am pulling for the Eagles because the Pats cheat, not because they are Republicans.

BumRushDaShow

(129,862 posts)
76. The home state of the Pats has a GOP gov and the home state of the Eagles has a Dem Gov
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:04 PM
Feb 2018

Those are ALSO the facts.... and PA is actually majority Democrat by registration (800,000 more).

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
15. Thank goodness I don't feel that way about any other team
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:39 PM
Feb 2018

really, that's just taking things in a pretty angry direction. Why let that kind of stuff into your life? All it does is alienate some others that you call friends on here.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
77. I know. I am not a Pats fan at all, but I have been taken aback by posters here calling the team
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:08 PM
Feb 2018

fascists. That is just ridiculous. I have seen several posts calling them that.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
80. Trumpism is pushing a lot of people on the left to become the thing they hate
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 02:51 PM
Feb 2018

The onslaught of negativity out of the administration and conservative circles are definitely making an impact as it's ratcheting up our side as well. It's unfortunate and I've called it out several times with people that they're becoming just as unhinged as those they accuse of being unhinged.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
17. I don't think there is any doubt they have been cheating for years.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 03:01 PM
Feb 2018

I still think Brady is taking something, it is not normal for him to stop aging.

cornball 24

(1,481 posts)
18. PATRIOTS will slink out in an air of shame when
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 03:04 PM
Feb 2018

our Eagles win the Super Bowl game.
Yes, our IGGLES will win the Super Bowl
As you Patriots crawl in a deep green hole.
I-G-G-L-E-S
Patriots ain't nothin' but a scorchin' hot mess!
GO EAGLES!!!

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
19. For the record.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 03:04 PM
Feb 2018

1. Patriots owner Robert Kraft is a life long Democrats who donates more money to Democrats then any NFL owner and donated to both of President Obama's campsigns.

https://nesn.com/2016/02/nfl-owners-political-donations-largely-republican-robert-kraft-more-democratic/

"NFL owners, or at least those whose donations were available, mostly donated to Republicans in both the 2008 and 2012 elections. But New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was the owner most loyal to the Democratic side."

"Kraft donated a total of $204,000 to Democratic PACs from 2008 to 2014, while Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank came second with $177,400. However, neither donated as much or as often as their Republican counterparts."

2. Craft's friendship with Trump stems from Trumps kindness to him during his wife's illness and after her death.
http://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-loyal-to-donald-trump-2017-1

"Robert Kraft and President Donald Trump are close, despite the Patriots owner being a life-long Democrat.
Kraft gave an example of their friendship by noting that Trump called him repeatedly after Kraft's wife died, just to check up on him.
Kraft said Trump was one of only a few people who made that much of an effort.

The New England Patriots triumvirate of owner Robert Kraft, head coach Bill Belichick, and quarterback Tom Brady have ruffled a few feathers in the heavily Democratic Commonwealth of Massachusetts for their friendship and loyalty to President Donald Trump.

For Kraft especially, the relationship is puzzling to many since Kraft is a life-long democrat and donated to President Barack Obama's campaigns.

While Belichick and Brady have largely stayed mum on the subject, Kraft opened up about his loyalty in an interview with the New York Daily News. Kraft brought up the time his wife died and how Trump was one of the few people who was truly there for him, a time that seemingly cemented Kraft's loyalty to their friendship.

"When Myra died, Melania and Donald came up to the funeral in our synagogue, then they came for memorial week to visit with me," Kraft told the Daily News. "Then he called me once a week for the whole year, the most depressing year of my life when I was down and out. He called me every week to see how I was doing, invited me to things, tried to lift my spirits. He was one of five or six people that were like that. I remember that."


3. The Kraft family and it's foundations do a tremendous amount of charitable work.


https://www.thekraftgroup.com/philanthropy/

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
85. Wow, that is just plain ugly. Think what they are teaching their children.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 08:47 AM
Feb 2018

Low-life bullies throwing thing at people who happen to support another team. Just ugly.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
22. Love New England. Hard to like Brady or Belichick
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 03:29 PM
Feb 2018

despite their transcendent talent.

because they supported a wanna be autocrat. Belichick helped a corrupt unamerican traitor get elected.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
23. I used to be a hardcore Pats fan. No more.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 03:32 PM
Feb 2018

For example, I remember when Randy Moss said “straight cash, homie”. When Logan Mankins busted his ACL, resulting in super bowl loss, and we didnt find out intil later. When Brandon and AT were late for practice due to a snowstorm and BB kicked them out.


Despite my love for new england I cant support a team whose QB and coach and owner had a chance to come out against our american nightmare and failed.

Also I have seen Rupert Murdoch in the owners box with Kraft. That was the first real strike. Kraft is dead to me.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
24. While maybe for you, Kraft is not that simple to read.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 03:41 PM
Feb 2018

I posted a "For the record" reply here.

Kraft is a life long Democrats who donates more money to Democrats the any NFL owner.
He donated to both of President Obama's campaigns. He and his families foundation have done some great charitable work.

His friendship with tRump stems from trumps kindness to him after his wife's death.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
64. He's a billionaire who likes other billionaires regardless of party.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 06:26 PM
Feb 2018

He's not on our side.

He's good friends with Rupert Murdoch. Kraft is pro-billionaire and anti-average American. That's why he can support Trump with no qualms and also support Murdoch and Obama.

And anyone who can support Trump and Murdoch is not a friend of mine. Or a friend of anyone who's not a billionaire.

Here's the key explanation:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/02/the-weakening-of-nations-how-tax-work-arounds-undermine-our-society/252779/

Romney's situation is actually quite typical for a man in his societal position. He has enough money to make himself attractive to a variety of financial odd-duck "nations" around the world who would be more than pleased to "host" his wealth in exchange for the occasional transaction fee, without pestering him about financing their schools, healthcare, roads, war, or any of the annoying trappings of civilization. The question remains -- is that moral? Isn't Mitt Romney a citizen of a particularly large nation-state already? Does he not owe that nation-state taxes, given that he is such prominent citizen that he may actually be elected president of the place? What is going on here?

It seems that the concept of the nation-state itself is becoming a very pliant one for certain actors in society, be they corporations or the very wealthy.
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
27. All 6 New England States voted blue
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:14 PM
Feb 2018

while Pennsylvania became Trump's favorite swing state.

So, as a fan, a vast majority of the New England fans voted correctly, while the liberals in Pennsylvania failed to carry the vote.

Look, I feel for you. The Eagles have never won a Super Bowl and we're going for our sixth.

But please, don't say that New England is right wing because of our owner. All the NFL owners are right wing. and Brady, he boycotted the White House visit last year. His wife wears the political pants in that family.

GO PATS

mgardener

(1,824 posts)
43. Go Patriots !!!!!!!
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:51 PM
Feb 2018

Have been in MA since Wed.
No love of Trump down here and they are rabid football fans.

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Freddie

(9,275 posts)
33. The Patriots are the Yankees of football
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:27 PM
Feb 2018

I'm fucking sick of them winning everything all the time. Go Eagles. (Bucks Co. PA here).

NRaleighLiberal

(60,029 posts)
35. As a liberal who lived in NE for 23 years and Phila for 8 years
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:30 PM
Feb 2018

My loyalties are to the Boston teams.

My call - NE 24, Phi 21 in a close, excellent game.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
39. This reminds me of when the Giants won the World Series
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

And suddenly they were a "liberal" team. Because, you know, San Francisco is blue, so the baseball Giants were, naturally, playing in support of all that is good and decent in the world. Whomever they played was, by fiat, Right Wing.

I mean, give me a goddamn break. Boston is as blue as it gets. If you want the Eagles to win, fine. I hope the Patriots win the next five Super Bowls. Am I now right wing?

“Sports, politics, and religion are the three passions of the badly educated." - William Gass

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
40. Go Eagles
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

Philly born and raised, now living in a 'burb a few mins away from the city . I have been running errands all day and hitting up wawa for my free coffee. So much green out there today.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
41. When I watch football, which is very rarely these last few years,
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

I either root for the underdog, or the team whose colors I like best.

Not sure if I will make it all the way through the football game today, but if I do, GO EAGLES!!


appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
47. I refuse to watch the game but am rooting for Philly.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 05:10 PM
Feb 2018

You will have to more than win because you will be playing against a whole team of officials as well as a team of cheaters. I quit watching football this year in the middle of the season when it was blatant what was going on. Anyone that played the Patriots did not stand a chance. I have been a devout fan of football since the fifties and have never seen officiating like what occurred this year. It was disgusting. The call against the Bills was even worse than the call against the Steelers.

DeminPennswoods

(15,292 posts)
49. This lifelong Steeler fan is rooting for the Eagles
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 05:26 PM
Feb 2018

Also, lots of connections between the Steelers and Eagles, so an easy call for me.

I hope if the Eagles win, the celebration doesn't get out of hand.

forthemiddle

(1,383 posts)
53. As a die hard Vikings fan
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 05:36 PM
Feb 2018

I am having a really hard time rooting for the Eagles, so regardless of who’s in the lead I will root for my numbers!

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Tracer

(2,769 posts)
75. Dear PCIntern
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 01:44 PM
Feb 2018

I've always enjoyed your posts, but on this occasion, I am going to take back what was going to be congratulations to the Eagles on winning the Super Bowl.

As a Patriots fan, I can be honest and say that the Eagles played a good game, without being insulting to the other team or its players.

You are usually better than that.

PCIntern

(25,623 posts)
82. Tracer:
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 03:17 PM
Feb 2018

It’s a battlefield and the problem for us Dems is we don’t get obnoxious enough when push comes to shove. I did this to be incendiary!

Philly’s own version of Alan Grayson!

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
86. Sports should be fun. I simply cannot imagine feeling actual hatred for another sports team.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 08:54 AM
Feb 2018

But hey, whatever gives you a warm feeling.

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