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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 03:19 PM Feb 2018

Forbes: Republicans don't want a budget resolution. Bc that would reveal their economic lies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2018/02/05/this-is-the-real-reason-the-gop-doesnt-want-to-do-a-budget-this-year/#78d7ed425e08

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) was the first high-level Republican to say Congress might not even consider let alone adopt a budget resolution this year. Then, at the GOP retreat last week, in what was close to his first official act as the new chairman of the House Budget Committee, Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR), let it be known that he and his committee had much better things to do than a 2019 budget resolution.

Not doing a budget resolution means there can't be reconciliation, and without reconciliation the biggest parts of the GOP's legislative agenda will be virtually impossible to enact.

...

In other words, the GOP can't be making the decision not to do a budget without a great deal of thought.

So why isn't the GOP going to do a budget? Because the vote on the 2019 budget — the last one Congress will consider before the 2018 midterm elections — will reveal that all the Republican promises on the deficit and debt, including its blind belief on dynamic scoring, were completely bogus.

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Even if the House and Senate budget resolutions use phony projections showing the deficit and debt falling, the standard analyses of the House and Senate budget resolutions produced each year by the Congressional Budget Office will show the real numbers.

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But no budget resolution will mean no hearings in the budget committees, no floor debate, much less media attention and, most importantly, no votes. That makes it a great..and maybe the best...way for congressional Republicans to avoid talking about or taking responsibility for the spiking deficit and debt they said wouldn't occur.
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Forbes: Republicans don't want a budget resolution. Bc that would reveal their economic lies. (Original Post) DetlefK Feb 2018 OP
Sure appears to be Paul Ryans Game plan. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #1
This could be why Durbin is predicting no shutdown bigbrother05 Feb 2018 #2
Wait a minute... how can they blame the Dems for this? FakeNoose Feb 2018 #13
That's what they are trying to do bigbrother05 Feb 2018 #16
It's astonishing this is coming from Forbes. Vinca Feb 2018 #3
By not having a budget, Congress has a regular opportunity to create chaos. malthaussen Feb 2018 #4
More "Shock Doctrine" DemoTex Feb 2018 #5
+1000 zentrum Feb 2018 #10
I agree with the article, but this is not a Forbes piece hueymahl Feb 2018 #6
Lather, rinse, repeat... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #7
Economy killing toddlers.. all of them. vkkv Feb 2018 #8
so you would think this gives the dems a talking point and leverage. nt wiggs Feb 2018 #9
Right? BadgerMom Feb 2018 #11
Only if Dems will exploit it. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #12
Will they ever be held accountable for this budget game bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #14
I'm not convinced this matters Steven Maurer Feb 2018 #15
Knr voteearlyvoteoften Feb 2018 #17
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Sure appears to be Paul Ryans Game plan.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 03:25 PM
Feb 2018

And for Forbes to belly ache,you know the underlying Legislation is rife with Supply Side Calculations and Assumptions that will never pass the smell test.

Is Ryan trying to save his ass by kicking the can down the road until November? Some have said this was to be a Rethug Campaign Issue and try to blame the Democrats for all these CR's.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
2. This could be why Durbin is predicting no shutdown
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 03:35 PM
Feb 2018

If the GOP doesn't really want a budget passed, CRs will continue through the year. The GOP will try to hang the lack of a budget on the Dems, so Durbin will have to tread carefully and paint the GOP as liars trying to hurt the weak and poor.

The 2018 campaign has begun in earnest. Increased deficits and market losses coupled with the drip, drip, drip of the Russia probe can bleed the GOP if Dems don't self harm.

FakeNoose

(41,600 posts)
13. Wait a minute... how can they blame the Dems for this?
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 05:43 PM
Feb 2018

This is astonishing. The GOP has to own this duplicity.
I can't believe they think they can get away with it.
Just shut down the government until those weasels figure it out.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
16. That's what they are trying to do
Wed Feb 7, 2018, 10:36 AM
Feb 2018

Trump and McConnell are both being so obstinate to goad the Dems into a shutdown on principle. They want the bill in the Senate to be so bad that no Dem can vote for it and a couple of theirs will balk too.

Then they'll whine about another Schumer shutdown and how Durbin thinks Dreamers are more important than grandma's SS check and the Military/Vets.

malthaussen

(18,564 posts)
4. By not having a budget, Congress has a regular opportunity to create chaos.
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 03:45 PM
Feb 2018

Sure, it may not be good for the Federal government -- including Defense, which has complained that the never-ending "extensions" are screwing up their ability to perform their mission -- but when recently has Congress demonstrated the least concern for the good of the Federal government? It's leverage, they use it.

-- Mal

hueymahl

(2,904 posts)
6. I agree with the article, but this is not a Forbes piece
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 04:38 PM
Feb 2018

It is an independent commentator. Much of Forbes.com has turned into, essentially, a blogging site.

Just a nitpick about your title. Sorry.

Wounded Bear

(64,315 posts)
7. Lather, rinse, repeat...
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 05:11 PM
Feb 2018

After all, they're fighting about the 2018 budget now, which was supposed to be done by last Sept 30.

Maybe we should call them the CRepub party.

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
14. Will they ever be held accountable for this budget game
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 05:55 PM
Feb 2018

Kate Stith from the Yale Law School explains why the federal budget is part of the “job description” of Congress: “Like the appropriations requirement, this [Statement and Accounts] requirement states not a power but a legislative duty that has been interpreted to require an annual budget.”

Stith also points to how Justice Joseph Story defined the relationship between the two clauses in his Commentaries on the Constitution. “The power to control and direct the appropriations constitutes a most useful and salutary check upon profusion and extravagance, as well as upon corrupt influence and public speculation,” Story said. “[A]nd to make their responsibility complete and perfect, a regular account of the receipts and expenditures is required to be published, that the people may know, what money is expended, for what purposes, and by what authority.”

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-constitution-and-the-federal-budget-process

That the people may know what money is being expended and for what purpose. It’s a legislative duty but if the press doesn’t care the public will NEVER be informed.

Steven Maurer

(510 posts)
15. I'm not convinced this matters
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 08:50 PM
Feb 2018

The right wing in this country is filled to the brim with ignorant hate-filled bullshitters who feel perfectly comfortable pushing fake news.

You think they can do math?

My god, these people were pretending that Trump's inaugural crowd size was bigger than Obama's, just because the narcissist in chief said it was.

Anybody who isn't on to the GOP by now is in on the game.

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