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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:23 PM Feb 2018

His remarks got under Mike Pence's skin. So the VP asked to meet. It didn't work out.

Dense Pense!!!

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As the first openly gay American athlete to qualify for the winter Olympics, figure skater Adam Rippon has a lot of things on his plate right now — chief among them, prepping for his performances in Pyeongchang, South Korea.

One item that won't make his to-do list? Meeting Vice President Mike Pence.

Rippon made waves last month for blasting Pence for his bigoted views on LGBTQ issues after it was announced the vice president would be leading the U.S. delegation in the Games' opening ceremony on Feb. 9.

“You mean Mike Pence — the same Mike Pence that funded gay conversion therapy?” Rippon said. “I’m not buying it.”

The vice president has been under fire from LGBTQ rights advocates for once supporting so-called "gay conversion therapy" — a dangerous practice that attempts to change a person's sexual orientation. Pence has denied ever endorsing the practice. Yet, his 2000 congressional campaign website read "resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."

Rippon's not the only Olympian who's criticized the decision to make Pence the country's delegation leader.
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His remarks got under Mike Pence's skin. So the VP asked to meet. It didn't work out. (Original Post) RKP5637 Feb 2018 OP
Do not enter a room with Mike Pence, I beg you! MineralMan Feb 2018 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author RKP5637 Feb 2018 #2
Please don't suggest political opponents are gay. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #10
That's a good point!!! I certainly did not mean it that way, but I see what you mean. RKP5637 Feb 2018 #11
Thank you! n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #30
I agree with you - this should never be used as an insult. leftieNanner Feb 2018 #14
Agree The Mouth Feb 2018 #24
A man who needs to be chaperoned at all times by the wife he calls "Mother" has issues... Hekate Feb 2018 #36
☝️That. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2018 #47
I know, and this behavior is sick. My spouse is NOT my mother! Repulsive and sick...nt SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #57
I would not want to meet with any Republican politician. SamKnause Feb 2018 #3
I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY! GWC58 Feb 2018 #6
I agree 1,000% +++ These was a time I guess one could say that some still didn't get what's RKP5637 Feb 2018 #8
Another *agree* from me. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2018 #48
I love this kid with all my heart and soul!! I might even have to watch a bit of Olympics to Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #4
I'm going to cheer this kid on. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #5
Ummm.... jberryhill Feb 2018 #7
Wow, yes, that is an excellent point!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2018 #9
Upworthy.com, source of OP greyl Feb 2018 #13
He was on the other night with a pompadour. kwassa Feb 2018 #15
Upworthy says, in another article, that Weir wasn't caraher Feb 2018 #17
A fine distinction, I guess jberryhill Feb 2018 #23
Johhny Weir didn't officially come out until 2011 whopis01 Feb 2018 #18
ah jberryhill Feb 2018 #21
Adam is the first American figure skating competitor to openly declare he is gay. luvtheGWN Feb 2018 #22
Weir wasn't openly gay while competing in the Olympics dsc Feb 2018 #25
Oh! I remember him even though I havent watched Olympics in forever. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2018 #49
Adam Rippon! MontanaMama Feb 2018 #12
Get Ready DownriverDem Feb 2018 #16
He's nothing but a closed-minded, sanctimonious Christofascist. calimary Feb 2018 #20
Kudos to him for speaking out. I didn't see a reference to a mtg request in the story, tho.nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #19
This athlete needs to ignore that moron/bigot pence and concentrate on his events Gothmog Feb 2018 #26
The very idea this man child who fears women and gay people would be in any position of power Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #27
Here is the perfect example of how you deal with these pricks maxrandb Feb 2018 #28
My sister in law has a sister who looks gay. Seriously gay Maraya1969 Feb 2018 #29
Evangelicals are a cult and the opposite of everything Jesus ever taught! They love spreading RKP5637 Feb 2018 #44
Mike Pence is an insult to all gay athletes in the closet or out of the closet. YOHABLO Feb 2018 #31
Pence is an insult to his god Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #43
Go back to your safe space, Vice President Snowflake! Initech Feb 2018 #32
DisPence with manners, everyone should snub Pence. betsuni Feb 2018 #33
You said "DisPence" like that ! Also love how he scrunches up his Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2018 #35
Huh? How did the whole thing get under Pence's skin (title) ?? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2018 #34
Hi, here's more on it here. RKP5637 Feb 2018 #45
How about Olympic gold medal diver Greg Louganis? FakeNoose Feb 2018 #37
Looked it up. He didn't publicly come out until 1994, tclambert Feb 2018 #38
OK FakeNoose Feb 2018 #39
That's what I was thinking - there must be other gay athletes Rhiannon12866 Feb 2018 #41
Not a winter Olympic sport jberryhill Feb 2018 #40
Pence is evil Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #42
He is, even more so than Trump IMO. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2018 #46
We must not romana Feb 2018 #50
Pence, is a very very dangerous creature. IMO he's worse than Trump! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2018 #53
Pence leave him alone at this great moment in his skating career lunasun Feb 2018 #51
This athlete has more important things MontanaMama Feb 2018 #52
I would not put it past Pence. He's a very very evil creature! Just looking at Pence one can tell RKP5637 Feb 2018 #54
"Pense" is only a letter and a swap away from "Penis" n/t SpankMe Feb 2018 #55
And he's a horrible creature. Just looking at him gives me the creeps. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2018 #56
Pence also bought Otto Warmbiers dad as part of the delegation maryellen99 Feb 2018 #58
so, the homophobic, misogynyistic, racist little weirdo is heading the US delegation? what an niyad Feb 2018 #59
... saw him on TV today there. He just looks so damn creepy! It's like you know he's really RKP5637 Feb 2018 #60

Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
10. Please don't suggest political opponents are gay.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:59 PM
Feb 2018

It is offensive to be used as an insult, especially when that insult is combined with a suggestion of predatory behavior.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
11. That's a good point!!! I certainly did not mean it that way, but I see what you mean.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:04 PM
Feb 2018

I just went back and deleted it! Thanks for letting me know!

leftieNanner

(15,148 posts)
14. I agree with you - this should never be used as an insult.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:09 PM
Feb 2018

That being said, I believe that Mike Pence is about as deeply closeted as it is possible to be. I find it rather tragic, actually. If it's true, then he will never be allowed to be his true self and in his position in the White House he can do a great deal of damage to the LGBTQ community.

The Mouth

(3,164 posts)
24. Agree
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:06 PM
Feb 2018

As with J Edgar Hoover.

Genuine tragedy, in the original meaning, that being that the hurt and damage arise from the internal flaws of the individual.

Sad; the person who doesn't know and like their real self is the one that does the most damage to others.

Hekate

(90,788 posts)
36. A man who needs to be chaperoned at all times by the wife he calls "Mother" has issues...
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:00 AM
Feb 2018

...too deep to plumb.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
3. I would not want to meet with any Republican politician.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:36 PM
Feb 2018

They are the enemy !!!!!!!

I wouldn't open the front door for Pence, Trump, or any Republican politician.

They are EVIL FUCKING LIARS.

They destroy everything they touch.

EVIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. I agree 1,000% +++ These was a time I guess one could say that some still didn't get what's
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:50 PM
Feb 2018

going on, but after a year of tRump, there just is no excuse. If someone is still republican today, I consider them to be really stupid, crooked as hell and/or one evil individual. All the red flags go up for me!!!

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
4. I love this kid with all my heart and soul!! I might even have to watch a bit of Olympics to
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

cheer him on!!

FUCK YEAH ADAM RIPPON

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. I'm going to cheer this kid on.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:43 PM
Feb 2018

I'm going to cheer this kid on.

Despite the dullards who pretend sincerity when they ask "why not cheer on the best qualified athlete?"

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Ummm....
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 04:49 PM
Feb 2018

"As the first openly gay American athlete to qualify for the winter Olympics"

Who threw Johnny Weir under the bus?



Mr. Weir was certainly "openly fabulous", and I hope NBC will have him back for commentary this month.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
13. Upworthy.com, source of OP
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:08 PM
Feb 2018
His remarks got under Mike Pence's skin. So the VP asked to meet. It … didn't work out.


As the first openly gay American athlete to qualify for the winter Olympics, figure skater Adam Rippon has a lot of things on his plate right now — chief among them, prepping for his performances in Pyeongchang, South Korea.

One item that won't make his to-do list? Meeting Vice President Mike Pence.

Rippon made waves last month for blasting Pence for his bigoted views on LGBTQ issues after it was announced the vice president would be leading the U.S. delegation in the Games' opening ceremony on Feb. 9.
“You mean Mike Pence — the same Mike Pence that funded gay conversion therapy?” Rippon said. “I’m not buying it.”



http://www.upworthy.com/his-remarks-got-under-mike-pence-s-skin-so-the-vp-asked-to-meet-it-didn-t-work-out

caraher

(6,279 posts)
17. Upworthy says, in another article, that Weir wasn't
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:45 PM
Feb 2018

I think this is pretty ungenerous towards Weir, but this is the claim at least:

Other male LGBTQ athletes have competed in the winter games in years past — notably, fellow figure skaters Johnny Weir and Brian Boitano — but none had been open about their sexual orientation heading into the competition.


I say "ungenerous" because I wouldn't have said Weir has ever been "closeted" while in the public eye.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. A fine distinction, I guess
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:04 PM
Feb 2018

Yeah, I wouldn't have thought he was ever "in", such that being "out" would be a big deal.

I do admire his commentary. And his wardrobe.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
22. Adam is the first American figure skating competitor to openly declare he is gay.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:03 PM
Feb 2018

Neither Johnny Weir, nor Brian Boitano, Rudy Galindo and a whole host of other male skaters declare, prior to ending their competing careers. At least Adam is not concerned that the judges are biased against his being gay -- times have changed, thank goodness.

Frankly, it's absolutely no one's business whether they -- or anyone else -- are gay, but kudos to Adam Rippon for rejecting Pence's Olympic "leadership". Likewise the Eagles players who are refusing an invitation to the White House.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
25. Weir wasn't openly gay while competing in the Olympics
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:44 PM
Feb 2018

He came out in 2011 and the last Olympics he competed in was 2010

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
49. Oh! I remember him even though I havent watched Olympics in forever.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 11:24 AM
Feb 2018

I’m not sure how to get it on my tv which is set up for Netflix.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
12. Adam Rippon!
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:05 PM
Feb 2018

What a brave young man you are. You don't even have to step on the ice - you have already made us proud!! Keep speaking truth to power and
Go Team USA!

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
16. Get Ready
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 05:30 PM
Feb 2018

If pence ever becomes president, we will all be seeing a radical religious RWNJ push his repub Christian views on the rest of us. We will be filing lawsuit after lawsuit.

calimary

(81,458 posts)
20. He's nothing but a closed-minded, sanctimonious Christofascist.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 06:30 PM
Feb 2018

I'm still convinced that the reason trump picked him as a running mate was to dog-whistle his intention to force his under-the-radar "Make America White Again" agenda. Mike Pence is certainly the whitest white guy I've ever seen.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
27. The very idea this man child who fears women and gay people would be in any position of power
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 07:48 PM
Feb 2018

over the life of any human being is a disgrace.

We should be ASHAMED of ourselves!

maxrandb

(15,351 posts)
28. Here is the perfect example of how you deal with these pricks
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 08:37 PM
Feb 2018

When they try that "good Retrumplican/bad Retrumplican Shit... tell them to go fuck themselves.

Maraya1969

(22,497 posts)
29. My sister in law has a sister who looks gay. Seriously gay
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 10:43 PM
Feb 2018

They are white evangelicals. About a year ago I emailed SIL and suggested she offer to have a wedding for that other sister. Mind you everyone in that family have had big weddings except that one sister. Even though she is always with another woman who looks as gay as she does.

My SIL wrote me back and told me she was insulted that I would call her sister gay! Then she said that her sister believed that marriage was between 1 man and 1 woman.

I know my brother used to try and get people into anti-gay therapy, (he is a retired pastor) and I've said plenty to him over the years about it. But I never thought that they may have pushed this sister into it. I don't know if they actually did that or the sister learned from their parents that if she is gay to never come out. I know how my brother shunned me years ago when I had a relationship, (or a few) with a woman.

Evangelicals bastardize the teachings of Jesus

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
44. Evangelicals are a cult and the opposite of everything Jesus ever taught! They love spreading
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 10:58 AM
Feb 2018

misery onto others.

betsuni

(25,610 posts)
33. DisPence with manners, everyone should snub Pence.
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 11:53 PM
Feb 2018

So embarrassing to have him at the Olympics, always holding Mother's hand tightly, being a good boy. The way he scrunches up his eyes to make it look like he's thinking, his Serious Face, enrages me. Another Republican face you'd love to slap, but in Pence's case he'd LOVE to be slapped so you can't think about it, all you can do turn away, disgusted, and try to snub as best you can.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. You said "DisPence" like that ! Also love how he scrunches up his
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 11:58 PM
Feb 2018

eye to feign thinking ! perfect observation b !!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
34. Huh? How did the whole thing get under Pence's skin (title) ??
Thu Feb 8, 2018, 11:57 PM
Feb 2018

Not reading anything about a meeting? what'd I miss RKP ??

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
37. How about Olympic gold medal diver Greg Louganis?
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:24 AM
Feb 2018


Louganis' sexual orientation was known even in the 1980's I believe. And he was far from being the only one. Whoever wrote this article showed a lot of ignorance of Olympic history. This reporter should have done a little more research before claiming that Adam Rippon is the first "openly gay" athlete on the US Olympic team.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
38. Looked it up. He didn't publicly come out until 1994,
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:42 AM
Feb 2018

though he wasn't exactly hiding it. His last Olympics was in 1988 in Seoul, South Korea. So it's an argument about what "openly gay" means.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
39. OK
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:56 AM
Feb 2018

We've known about him for a long time. Also there have been several male skaters but I'm not here to mention names. The article would have been just fine without that incorrect statement.

It's really about Pence and his phony fundie beliefs anyway.



Rhiannon12866

(205,951 posts)
41. That's what I was thinking - there must be other gay athletes
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 02:10 AM
Feb 2018

Whether we know about them or not. And all the athletes have enough on their plate without having to deal with Mike Pence.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
52. This athlete has more important things
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 11:37 AM
Feb 2018

to do to prep for competition than meet with VP Toolie McToolerson. I wouldn’t doubt Pence wants to distract Rippon in order to hijack his chances to win so that a gay man would be denied a medal. These people are just that evil.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
54. I would not put it past Pence. He's a very very evil creature! Just looking at Pence one can tell
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 11:39 AM
Feb 2018

he's F'ed up in his head.

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
58. Pence also bought Otto Warmbiers dad as part of the delegation
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:24 PM
Feb 2018

Sorry but Otto Warmbier is not worth starting Nuclear War/WW3 over.

niyad

(113,550 posts)
59. so, the homophobic, misogynyistic, racist little weirdo is heading the US delegation? what an
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 01:51 PM
Feb 2018

insult to the athletes.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
60. ... saw him on TV today there. He just looks so damn creepy! It's like you know he's really
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 02:56 PM
Feb 2018

evil and weird. How horrible this creature is representing the US.

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