Do you think that Trump's defense of Porter could be the defining moment?..

[Stuart G]

The wives say that their husband abused them. (Porter's wives) Trump defends the abuser totally. If enough people talk about this, could it be the defining moment for the republican party as well as Trump? There are a lot of women who voted for Trump and the republicans. How can the women ignore this?..

Trump defends the abuser...This abuse was/is on the FBI file. Trump did not read the reports, and Kelly did not tell Trump that his administration was hiring an abuser. Trump is sad that Porter is leaving. No remorse for the abused women, not even a mention. You must know this has to be the topic to discuss. Will other republicans support Trump on this, or say he should have mentioned the abused wives?

This is Trump's responsibility to hire his staff that is totally clean with no records of crime. This is a White House Staff that Trump comes in contact with daily..How many people can that be?

Yet this wife abuser, Porter, with complaints on file, was hired anyway. People need to talk about this simple fact. Trump defended the wife abuser, no mention of those abused. Again, will some republicans attack Trump on this totally insensitive statement? Will even one republican say this was totally wrong? We can beat this one into a total democratic victory in 8 months. This cannot go away. Trump, yes Trump hired a wife abuser for a member of his staff. It is his responsibility. After all, it is his staff. He should know and be responsible for the people he hires. Don't you think?

[pangaia]

1. Nope.

[pbmus]

2. Not even close...

[uponit7771]

5. +1

[Docreed2003]

12. This...

As unbelievable as that statement was when he made it, Trump has clearly shown he can do what he pleases and there will be people lining up to make excuses for his actions.

[Stuart G]

13. Why?...if people talk about it don't you think that this is very important?

Trump hired this person, and Trump is responsible for his White House staff. Wives who have been through this know how horrifying this is. Trump defended this abuser. Don't ever underestimate the power of women talking about spouse abuse. Or talking about abuse of women by their male friends. Women will have the power to turn this into a democratic hurricane that knocks the republican power down. That hurricane next November could get rid of McConnell and Ryan as top congressional leaders and replace them with our leaders.

This defense of an abuser, right now, today, could do it.

[pbmus]

17. Personally, I think its abhorrent we have these racist misogynistic abusing

ASSHOLES IN THE WHITE HOUSE and anyplace close to our government.

And I sincerely hope, pray and meditate that a hurricane is coming to sweep all of these jerks out of our government.

[kairos12]

45. Yep. Unfortunately, Drumpt was spot on about this.

[PJMcK]

3. Nah

Wishful thinking.

[uponit7771]

4. Only if the wives were brown skinned and he hugged one of them in empathy

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. No.

[nolabear]

7. Sadly, no. Many don't care and many more excuse anything he does.

We have a long way to go.

[Stallion]

8. Reminds Me of HBO's Jon Oliver

he'll describe one of the many scandals that would have brought down other politicians and he jumps up and yells among balloons and confetti -


WE GOT HIM !!!!!
THIS TIME WE REALLY GOT HIM!!!


(No)

[CatMor]

9. No

[Mike Nelson]

10. No...

...the deplorables think man should be "master" and discipline women who are not subservient... Trump supporters wouldn't mind if the women were 14-year-olds, either, as we've seen.

[jberryhill]

11. Lol, no

Of course not.

[redstatebluegirl]

14. Nope.

His deplorable base will follow him to hell and back. Now they are following him saying everyone is after him so he "needs their support". The more everyone goes after him the more they dig in.

I have thought he was toast so many times, right now I don't think anything will taint him enough to get rid of him.

[bluestarone]

15. one could only wish

BUT I'M AFRAID NOT

[Vinca]

16. No.

I'm beginning to think only Don dropping nukes and nukes being returned will wake people up. Then, of course, it will be too late.

[Stuart G]

18. Here is an example: Do you know who Todd Akins was? What did he say?

I will tell you. He said that victims of "legitimate rape" have the power to keep themselves from getting pregnant. Those who were raped he concluded could think themselves from getting pregnant..

Remember?...He ran against Claire McCaskill in Missouri in 2012. He lost big. It was such a stupid thing to say. Well this is the same. No sensitivity for the abused wives, only for the abuser. It is almost March. We have 8 months to destroy the republican party when no one in the republican party goes after Trump on this. It is such a simple thing to. The republican party will support an abuser, rather than the abused. At least this is what I think...Todd Akins paid the price of something stupid and insensitive..This one is in my opinion the same...

But it ain't up to me. The women of this country have that power. It is up to them

[justhanginon]

23. If memory serves, I believe he (Akin) still got about

37% of the vote. That is an awful lot of people who either simply do not care or have no idea what the hell is going on in the world. Missouri has gone to hell in recent years and now have that pig, Machine Gun Greiten as governor. He thought he was such hot stuff until his recent little pecadillo was brought to light and probably destroyed his national plans. Although he is a Republican so one never knows.

[Vinca]

43. The difference is that Akin was a flash in the pan. Don is a full blown cult leader.

His following is as devoted as the Kool-Aid drinkers who worshipped Jim Jones.

[gibraltar72]

19. 16 Republicans proved

Nothing matters.

[Stuart G]

20. Please explain clearly.

[gibraltar72]

34. All of the other would be candidates

brought up all they could on him and used reason and fact. And none of it mattered. Nothing mattered. Now America doesn't matter.

[gratuitous]

21. There have been a lot of moments that could have been defining

So I'm not sanguine about the chances of any new moments being defining. That being said, I think there is a cumulative effect for these moments: little by little, support for Trump bleeds off. It's up to us to use these moments to define this fucker, and firmly tie each and every one around his neck until the combined weight finally sinks him.

[Stuart G]

36. And yes, this could be the pebble that finally sinks him and the republicans...remember.....

Trump and the republicans support the abuser, not the wives who were abused..

that says all you need to ever say. It is simple, it is short, and it is the truth...Every woman who was abused, or anyone for that matter who was abused, will understand. That is what Trump's statement today did..The President .supported the abuser..not the wives who were abused.....pass it on..

[Nevernose]

22. Is this a joke?

Almost 2/3s of white women in Alabama voted for Roy Moore.

The GOP left any shred of morality it had left at the door the moment a black guy was president, and they didn’t have much to begin with. It’s not even a political party anymore and issues of “patriarchy” have been left in the dust. It’s just a very large cult, getting more and more cult-like every single day.

Besides which, there are so many outrages about Trump that anyone who cares or ever will care already hates his fucking guts. Or they watch Faux News propaganda and keep on drinking the Kool-Aid.

Trump raped his wife, bragged about spying on underage girls, bragged about sexually assaulting and harassing women, and he STILL got the majority of white women to vote for him.

[Stuart G]

25. This is not a joke.

Gradually, sometimes quickly opinions about events change attitudes. The republican party stands for male domination and more assorted types of insensitivity and hate. This event could change some minds that could change the outcome.. This event could clarify exactly what Trump stands for. forever..

.He, and the rest of the republican party stands with the abuser..not the wives...Get the word out to everyone everywhere because this is the proof positive of that idea. Come November the republicans might be in the minority in both houses. This, if it gets enough neighbor to neighbor conversation could be the moment. Well you say...no it can't be...anything can happen if enough people come to accept an idea. Especially if that idea is based in ..truth and honest ideas. Yes, Trump and the republicans do support the abuser. That is the idea, and spread it everywhere...that idea will get around.

something to recall....................l
When Bush was elected and Gore was defeated it seemed pretty sad. I remember clearly, how could this happen? After 9/11 there that idiot was, our leader, our president ...a fool's fool...Our country has stood for far better than Bush Junior. How could that happen?...Will we survive?

In 2007 an Afro-American Senator from Illinois, declared that he was to be a candidate for the office of "President of the United States of America" I remember the day, well I thought..not much of a chance I thought. Yea, he is smart, articulate, dignified, and so on, but he hasn't got a chance. I guess I was wrong on that one...

.....So, who knows what is going to happen. This November there could be a wave so HUGE...that the republican party is ruined. Destroyed. Yes, Trump and the republicans do support the abuser, not the wives who were abused...pass it on, to everyone and anyone. Simple easy to remember, and more important easy to understand............pass it on. Trump and the republicans do support the abuser, not the wives who were abused....PASS IT ON..TO EVERYONE AND ANYONE...

PASS IT ON

[Ligyron]

33. This might be worth a shot.

You never really know with people and if I did, I'd be a millionaire.

I'll give you a heart anyway.

[ProudLib72]

24. Think it is a "defining moment" for this woman?

[janterry]

30. I just spent a good minute trying to figure out

if that arrow was a phallus

To quote Trump: Sad. That's just another 'deplorable' who thinks they are behind trump, when they are really just peons, under his foot.

[Stuart G]

31. Well the jokes on me..and the lady in the picture....Here is the sentence to pass on

Trump and the republican party support the abuser, not the wives who were abused.

Yes, I know, sounds so simple...just pass it on...ok?...

[ProudLib72]

38. If my previous post was snarky, I apologize

I didn't mean it as a reflection on you or the sentiment you expressed. You are not wrong to think this should be a stain on the repubs. My point was simply that they do not care anymore. Or, rather, they delight in the offense we take when this sort of news comes to light. The woman in the picture (I would not call her a lady, btw) was making light of tRump's pussy grabbing statement. That was last year, and I don't think they have changed for the better. In fact, I think they have doubled down on their deplorableness.

[Glamrock]

26. It could be

if he was a Democrat....

[janterry]

27. add me to the nope column

[Motley13]

28. No, not sure if killing someone on 5th ave would, the moron said he could

[PoorMonger]

29. Unfortunately , no

This won’t matter to Trump supporters. As for other elected Republicans, they will just ignore it knowing there will be a fresh outrage within a day or two.

[Stuart G]

32. Again...and Again..Trump and the republican party support the abuser, not the wives who were abused.

You think it won't work, well it will work..give it a try, it wont hurt..and it is the truth. Because that is who they are, that is who they were, and that is who they will be.

[John Fante]

52. The Deplorables will simply accuse the women of lying.

Trump only needs to continue his demonization of minorities for the majority of whites (including white woman) to support him. It's his "get out of jail free" card.

[Cha]

35. It should be for women everywhere

and men who find it reprehensible to defend the abuser of women.

[onecaliberal]

37. No. Why would you think that. He said he sexually assaults women when he feels like it and

All those republican white women yawned. These people are racist evil hating bigots. They’re with him because they are exactly like him.

[Stuart G]

39. Yes, there are lots of people who are reacist and "evil hating bigots" They are with Trump, because

they are like him....but, they are in the minority. You tell me if the following is the truth:

A. In 2008 the U.S.A elected an Afro-American for the first time as President.
B. In 2012 the U.S.A re-elected the same Afro-American for a 2nd term
C. In 2016 the U.S.A gave the majority of its votes to a woman running for President.

It isn't easy, but we can beat the "evil hating bigots"

[onecaliberal]

40. I didn't say we couldn't beat them. The question was will this be the turning point.

The answer is a resounding no. There IS NO THING that will make those people turn on him. They are him, and he is them.

[Stuart G]

41. True Trumpers are somewhere between 25 -35 percenct.

Some sway back and forth. If that number is 27 percent..no one knows for sure, yes, nothing can change their minds..

But for the sway people, and independents, and listeners, and people who might vote against this crowd, well this could be the turning point. but no one knows for sure. It could be the foundation for a major change in November. no one knows.

At what point in the last 20-30 years did it become possible for an Afro-American to become President? Did that take place before Obama declared. What was the point when the climate changed enough for him to become President? I don't think anyone knows.

This could be a turning point. It could be a moment when 10 percent right next to that 27 percent shifts in our direction. Yes there is still 27 percent True Trumpers, but now Democratic party has 55 to 57 percent solid votes that will control the next few elections. Why?

That 10 percent realizes that....."Trump and the republican party support abusers, not the wives that were abused" You say no, I say maybe this is the time, or why not ?

[onecaliberal]

42. You make great points and yes we elected President Obama. It was a far different time.

Even the pukes had war fatigue. Look how they hounded Obama relentlessly about NOTHING. It brought the racist out from under the woodwork.

I don’t think they number more than 30%. But we need at least 20% above normal performance to over come gerrymandering and vote suppression. And that brings me to the thing I am most concerned with this election. Russian hacking. If anyone thinks Russia hacked those machines just to look around and didn’t change things when they already had assurances from dump that he would drop the sanctions, then there is no hope. We are currently doing almost nothing to address that. So while I would love to share your optimism, I’m not seeing signs that give me a ton of hope.
In a fair election we would wipe the floor with them, they wouldn’t be heard from again in decades. Unfortunately thanks to republicans we haven’t had a fair election in quite some time.

[VOX]

44. Abusing women is a plank in the Republican Party platform.

And I’m only using snark to make a point. Republicans are FAR to much into making women submissive (more bible-worldview crap); controlling women’s health, their bodies and their choices; keeping women down without equal pay; and generally treating women badly, whoever and wherever.

All of which is to say, Trump’s (himself a self-confessed abuser of women) defense of the abusive Porter is neither a surprise nor a “defining moment,” as despicable as it is. It’s just another day in Republican politics.

[GoCubsGo]

46. You're kidding, right?

His first wife accused him of raping and abusing her. He is on tape bragging about grabbing women "by the pussy." He has over a dozen women accusing him of sexually assaulting them. "If she wasn't my daughter, I'd be dating her." Etc., etc., etc. If none of that was his "defining moment", then there's not a snowball's chance in hell that his overlooking an aide's misbehavior will be.

[Stuart G]

47. I am going to bring this up again...maybe..just maybe..it is his defining moment..

Think about it...He defends the abuser, not the abused. So, we are two days away from this comment. Sunday, not Friday. It is still major news. With the abused wives coming back and defending themselves. Maybe Trump has stepped into a bottomless pit..

Do you think he will apologize for what he has implied, and what he has said?

[Ilsa]

48. He could shoot a person in Times Square, and his supporters

would send him flowers and candy, not arrest him, remember?

[Stuart G]

50. Yes, I do remember, but this is not the same as that.

He is taking the side of the abuser. There are millions who would be totally offended by this. Yes, 25 percent will take his side..sure.

But 75 percent will take the abused wives side. Further, those 75 percent will be nauseated by Trumps position. After all Trump called abused wives, "accusers" as if it were some kind of trial. Rather than these women were telling the truth. Today, one of the "accusers" in a thread now up, said that Trump was calling her a ......liar

Was he. Are all abused wives "liars?" Think it over. and no...if there were witnesses to him shooting someone in Times Square, he would not get away with it.

[leftyladyfrommo]

49. So far there have been about 209 possible

defining moments.

Congress doesn't care what he says or does. They are all just like him. A whole bunch of pigs.

[Stuart G]

51. No they are not...In time, and you watch...Some, just some republicans will

come out against this and condemn him. That will take time, but it will happen. Why? very simple.

What Trump has done by defending the abusers, is so totally wrong, that this will not go away. Has it gone away? Will it go away?...When?

I am going to add this...Let's see what is going to be talked about next week? Will those daytime shows let this go? Will the news media let this go? Will women let this go? We will wait and see.

[JDC]

53. Unfortunately no

[regnaD kciN]

54. Not. A. Chance.

[jrthin]

55. Nope. There is a reason his supporters are called deplorable. nt

[bottomofthehill]

56. Another no vote here

He is the true Teflon Don. Forget John Gotti