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Want a closer look at the Obama portraits? Found these high-quality images on the CNN website. (Original Post) Skinner Feb 2018 OP
Still don't like them - especially Michelle's. It doesn't look remotely like her. Vinca Feb 2018 #1
Agreed re Michelle's portrait. If I didn't know that was a portrait of Michelle Obama, No Vested Interest Feb 2018 #20
When I first saw it, PatSeg Feb 2018 #46
don't like either one. n/t Brainstormy Feb 2018 #63
Agree, it does not look like her Perseus Feb 2018 #24
One more thing Perseus Feb 2018 #28
Michelle and Barack are young enough that there may be other, No Vested Interest Feb 2018 #58
I had to go back and look Cha Feb 2018 #94
Between two ferns? nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #78
I heard someone on one of the MSNBC shows DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #93
Completely agree dflprincess Feb 2018 #87
I like the portraits! Iliyah Feb 2018 #2
Absolutely agree! Artist captured their essence, and RestoreAmerica2020 Feb 2018 #62
I tend not to trust most politicians for obvious reasons, these two changed me on that. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #3
I think both portraits are wonderful.... CatMor Feb 2018 #4
Wonderful portraits canetoad Feb 2018 #5
I can't help this reaction to Barack's portrait... Louis1895 Feb 2018 #6
They just showed them on MSNBC BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #57
President Obama looks so wise. Corgigal Feb 2018 #7
I'm not a big fan of these. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #17
Barack's hands are too big greymattermom Feb 2018 #8
Hmmm..... LAS14 Feb 2018 #12
Could be a joke LittleGirl Feb 2018 #30
Compare the two grantcart Feb 2018 #31
ROFL!!! calimary Feb 2018 #38
Imagine a photo or cartoon Funtatlaguy Feb 2018 #101
I love them! Cracklin Charlie Feb 2018 #9
Love them malaise Feb 2018 #10
'Good' art does not need to be explained. demmiblue Feb 2018 #11
IKR? Every college/university has at least one professor whose job it is to explain art. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2018 #33
I got my Bach. Fine Arts and attended 3 art schools BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #59
Thank you again Skinner BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #13
A Golden Age of Fresh Ideas and Diversity bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #14
Thanks, Skinner! ailsagirl Feb 2018 #15
Those look far better than what I've been seeing elsewhere. Mr.Bill Feb 2018 #16
The longer I look, the better I like. n/t LuckyCharms Feb 2018 #18
Simply lovely! MrScorpio Feb 2018 #19
Personally I think they're hideous, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #21
That's the word I was going to use too Poiuyt Feb 2018 #64
Same here customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #104
Barack's portrait looks exactly like him. 3catwoman3 Feb 2018 #22
Curious choice of artist Morris64 Feb 2018 #23
Excellent choice of artist. Iggo Feb 2018 #32
Welcome to DU, Morris64! calimary Feb 2018 #39
It makes sense if you look at that artist's other works BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #43
Yes, yes, both artists have captured Barack and Michelle perfectly in a kennedy Feb 2018 #89
Meanwhile BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #95
Pro-Trump trolls are coordinating a smear campaign against Obama portrait artist, Kehinde Wiley demmiblue Feb 2018 #67
Not, bot. brush Feb 2018 #81
Hey, Morris! MrScorpio Feb 2018 #97
Thank you for this!!! Morris64 Feb 2018 #105
For what its worth, this is still a kill whitey thing Morris64 Feb 2018 #106
Every single one of those paintings by European and American artists are "kill whitey" depictions MrScorpio Feb 2018 #109
Interesting parallels to be drawn, huh? Morris64 Feb 2018 #110
You may want to take a look at this before you talk about the artist's paintings geardaddy Feb 2018 #98
Kill whitey Morris64 Feb 2018 #107
Style-wise, I love Michelle's... But it doesn't look much like her. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2018 #25
That's about where I'm at, too. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2018 #36
I don't understand Michelle's dress Sanity Claws Feb 2018 #26
At first, I wasn't much taken with the portrait of Michelle. TygrBright Feb 2018 #27
Me too. They both said the artist got to the real person.... LAS14 Feb 2018 #45
To me it looks like an expression of challenge- not least to herself. n/t TygrBright Feb 2018 #49
Both have distracting elements PatentlyDemocratic Feb 2018 #29
The eye of the beholder strikes again! eleny Feb 2018 #50
Thank you! blogslut Feb 2018 #34
President Obamas captures him....strength and compassion. MLAA Feb 2018 #35
Could and should have been better - packman Feb 2018 #37
Sooooo.... MontanaMama Feb 2018 #40
I love them. eom ploppy Feb 2018 #41
They are both just wonderful ornotna Feb 2018 #42
The large hands orangecrush Feb 2018 #44
Actually, in person, they don't seem large at all. DFW Feb 2018 #47
You are quite fortunate orangecrush Feb 2018 #48
Several times, actually. DFW Feb 2018 #52
Thank you, Sir orangecrush Feb 2018 #69
No need DFW Feb 2018 #91
I love both portraits. underthematrix Feb 2018 #51
A big thank you to the artist for Michelle Obama's bare arm! eleny Feb 2018 #53
I like the one of Michelle, particularly her dress. It's just striking. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #54
I think both portraits are excellent. planetc Feb 2018 #55
My first impression was that Michelles portrait looks more like the artist then Michelle Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2018 #56
Peter Max came immediately to mind DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #60
It's art, not photorealism. I find them both powerful yet sympathetic. fierywoman Feb 2018 #61
My gripe: there's no warmth or authenticity to either of these Auggie Feb 2018 #65
I intensely dislike the Barack painting Nevernose Feb 2018 #66
K&R! Omaha Steve Feb 2018 #68
classy people heaven05 Feb 2018 #70
Enough to make one change his mind! Atman Feb 2018 #71
I'd have preferred something a bit more formal and dignified... less trendy pop-culture. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #72
Nowhere near presidential enough rocktivity Feb 2018 #73
I want to like them but... StarryNite Feb 2018 #74
Meh, Bob Ross could have done a better job. edbermac Feb 2018 #75
What is "off" about the face of Michelle's portrait, IMO, is the right side... 3catwoman3 Feb 2018 #76
Ooohhh--she is wearing her famous blue-grey nail color! I didn't notice that in tblue37 Feb 2018 #77
I think Michelle's eyes are more prominent in realty. Ilsa Feb 2018 #79
God what were they thinking. I think they are awful. Sorry I doc03 Feb 2018 #80
I like them too mcar Feb 2018 #82
I am an artist kpete Feb 2018 #83
Thanks! It really brings home how special the Obamas are. How they... LAS14 Feb 2018 #88
As a fellow artist I totally agree! WePurrsevere Feb 2018 #103
Love them both! rusty fender Feb 2018 #84
They make me miss them. Lifelong Protester Feb 2018 #85
I hope the Obamas are happy with the portraits. SharonClark Feb 2018 #86
I adore them ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #90
What struck me was how similar BHO's portrait was to a family portrait of us about 20 years ago. DFW Feb 2018 #92
I like Michelle's but Barack looks about 80 in that portrait. octoberlib Feb 2018 #96
There is such a thing as trying entirely too hard. nt Codeine Feb 2018 #99
I think they're stunning. I love them. fishwax Feb 2018 #100
I was looking for this, thank you. saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #102
I think they are gorgeous. Thanks for the pictures. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #108

No Vested Interest

(5,300 posts)
20. Agreed re Michelle's portrait. If I didn't know that was a portrait of Michelle Obama,
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:12 PM
Feb 2018

I would not recognize her in it.

PatSeg

(54,064 posts)
46. When I first saw it,
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:54 PM
Feb 2018

I didn't know it was Michelle. I'm not crazy about either one of them.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
24. Agree, it does not look like her
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:14 PM
Feb 2018

If I saw the painting without a label having her name, I don't think that I would know it was Michelle Obama.

And I don't understand the theme on Obama in front of a bunch of leaves, some hitting his suit, and him sort of inside it, like floating.

Very modern, but it does not do service to them.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
28. One more thing
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:20 PM
Feb 2018

I know the man-child is going to hate the fact that Obama's hands look huge, and I don't know if the artist was influenced by the man-child's small hands, and yes Obama's hands are bigger than the man-child's, but are they that big? They look out of proportion.

My main criticism is that the portrait of a President and a First Lady should be realistic, and none of the paintings are. They should have hired Daniel Greene, take a look at what this guy does, some of the paintings on the main page are "pastel", they are fantastic, and of course he does oil, that is realism, but if he can do that with "pastel" just see what he can do with oil.

http://www.danielgreeneartist.com/

No Vested Interest

(5,300 posts)
58. Michelle and Barack are young enough that there may be other,
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:28 PM
Feb 2018

better, portraits done of them, in a not-so-stylized form.

Cha

(321,585 posts)
94. I had to go back and look
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:47 AM
Feb 2018

at the hands.. I was busy studying the face.

Wow, those are some big hands! wtheck!

I don't think they capture their true image either.. but if President Obama and Michelle like them.. then it's ok with me.

I know it's art and the artists' interpretations.. and I'm glad so many love their portraits.



Excuse the ugly asshole on the right but this is a recent pic of Obama in a chair.

DeminPennswoods

(17,629 posts)
93. I heard someone on one of the MSNBC shows
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:35 AM
Feb 2018

say the flowers in the background are native to Hawaii and Kenya as a nod to Obama's childhood and lineage.

dflprincess

(29,458 posts)
87. Completely agree
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:42 PM
Feb 2018

at least I can recognize him (though, to be shallow, I think he's better looking than this painting) but Michelle's portrait doesn't look like her at all.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,471 posts)
62. Absolutely agree! Artist captured their essence, and
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:52 PM
Feb 2018

...certainly captured (former) First Lady Michelle Obama's beauty, independence, brilliance. I see a strong confident woman, and Obama's-confident, self-assured pose is brill ant. Absolutely stunning portraits!

Michelle Obama's words came to mind...when she was asked about her/their experience with racism during her husband presidency she said that "some could never get past the color of her, their skin."

Wth the exception of we, DU/liberals, I can imagine racist republikkklans hateful and hurtful comments that will be said by them and the racist occupant in the white house who has tried to erase Obama from history? No matter, he will never come close to a man of Obama's stature, intellect; decency and kindness towards all people regardless of religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation language, place of origin. While president he valued America's diversity, he included everyone at the table of opportunity. He and Michele are truly a national treasure...they're the best of us..

Ps. Thank you so much for post. Image of portraits I downloaded were blurry.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
4. I think both portraits are wonderful....
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:47 PM
Feb 2018

very unique, not the usual boring official portraits

Louis1895

(779 posts)
6. I can't help this reaction to Barack's portrait...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:52 PM
Feb 2018
(I Never Promised You a) Rose Garden

Martina McBride

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime
When you take you gotta give so live and let live and let go oh oh oh oh
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden

I could promise you things like big diamond rings
But you don't find roses growin' on stalks of clover
So you better think it over
Well, if sweet talking you could make it come true
I would give you the world right now on a silver platter
But what would it matter
So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden

I could sing you a tune and promise you the moon
But if that's what it takes to hold you I'd just as soon let you go
But there's one thing I want you to know
You'd better look before you leap still waters run deep
And there won't always be someone there to pull you out
And you know what I'm talking about
So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime.....

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime.....

BigmanPigman

(55,745 posts)
57. They just showed them on MSNBC
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:20 PM
Feb 2018

and they said that the flowers on President Obama's (wow, that felt odd, I haven't written "president" next to a name since inauguration day 2017) portrait represent different places in his live...like the official flower of Chicago and Hawaii, etc. Michelle said she wants younger people to look at her portrait in the future and think about how brown some first families were.

Corgigal

(9,298 posts)
7. President Obama looks so wise.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:54 PM
Feb 2018

I don't know how the artist captured that for me, but that is what I see.

Alas..

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. I'm not a big fan of these.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:09 PM
Feb 2018

But I do agree with you. He possess such a wise appearance. It really does come through.

LAS14

(15,584 posts)
12. Hmmm.....
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:01 PM
Feb 2018

I wonder if that represents reality, and it's just an illusion because of the color and so on, or if the artist did something intentionally. The hands on Michelangelo's David are definitely out of proportion.

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
30. Could be a joke
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:20 PM
Feb 2018

but they look real and HUGE. I love the look on his face too.
Wasn't a fan of Michelle's but after the HD photo, I think it's well done.

calimary

(91,480 posts)
38. ROFL!!!
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:38 PM
Feb 2018

Touche!

The fiend in me can't help but suspect there's more than a "little" private joke being conveyed by the artist.

Whether intentional or not, I hope it GALLS trump.

Funtatlaguy

(11,898 posts)
101. Imagine a photo or cartoon
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:32 PM
Feb 2018

Of Barack and Trump high giving and Trumps fingertips only come to the middle of Obama’s palm.
He would be so angry. Lol.

demmiblue

(40,075 posts)
11. 'Good' art does not need to be explained.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:59 PM
Feb 2018

I have seen this expressed here. However, in my experience, some (a lot) of it does. We all know what we like on a purely visual basis, but a greater appreciation and/or consideration for a piece has a lot to do with historical context and symbolism.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
33. IKR? Every college/university has at least one professor whose job it is to explain art.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:26 PM
Feb 2018

I minored in art and I don't remember any of my professors ever saying "this piece is so good that it doesn't need explaining so we'll just skip ahead."

BigmanPigman

(55,745 posts)
59. I got my Bach. Fine Arts and attended 3 art schools
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:32 PM
Feb 2018

in different cities. I am looking at on of my old textbooks called Aesthetics: A critical anthology and another one called Theories in Modern Art. What I learned from my many, many classes is basically "what constitutes 'art' is in the mind, eye and heart of each, individual observer". Of course you can writes books on art theory, meaning, symbolism, etc. but it is a purely subjective opinion.
I had to go back and get another degrees (I like to eat) to teach school. I taught art when no one was watching, there is no time for are in my former district, and told my students the same thing. They got discouraged and thought they were bad artists and so I stopped those thoughts ASAP.

BumRushDaShow

(173,651 posts)
13. Thank you again Skinner
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:03 PM
Feb 2018

And for the gardeners, you can recognize some of the flowers there (the artist mentioned some of them and how they relate back to Hawai'i and Chicago). I.e., you see chrysanthemums, and what appears to stephanotis or some type of jasmine, the vine looks like Virginia Creeper, with some rose buds, and possibly a blue creeping phlox included in there.

And it is fascinating how artists can render folds in cloth. I know that is a technique (like light and shadows).

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
16. Those look far better than what I've been seeing elsewhere.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:08 PM
Feb 2018

I especially like the one of him.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
21. Personally I think they're hideous,
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

but if Barack and Michelle like them, that's all that matters.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
104. Same here
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 02:10 PM
Feb 2018

I guess I hearken back to the days (we old guys like the word "hearken"!) when professional oil portraits were set in dignified surroundings, such as a person's professional office.

Barack Obama looks like he's in the middle of a jungle. And Michelle's portrait reminds me of a cartoon. But then, I don't "get" most modern forms of art.

3catwoman3

(30,206 posts)
22. Barack's portrait looks exactly like him.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

I would not know that was a painting of Michelle without being told. I do not think it looks even remotely like her.

 

Morris64

(78 posts)
23. Curious choice of artist
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

Considering his sad, violent works of beheaded women that tarnish an otherwise beautiful portfolio. Just my opinion though.

calimary

(91,480 posts)
39. Welcome to DU, Morris64!
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:42 PM
Feb 2018

Well, fortunately, these are quite remarkable.

I am a bit surprised that it would be President Obama depicted with all the leafy foliage behind him - when it's First Lady Michelle who made gardening one of her hallmarks. I'm a little surprised that she wasn't pictured in a garden setting also. But whatever. She's the most glamorous First Lady we've had since Jackie Kennedy. The gown is fabulous, and shows off those famous, beautifully sculpted upper arms of hers - another of her hallmarks!

BumRushDaShow

(173,651 posts)
43. It makes sense if you look at that artist's other works
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:52 PM
Feb 2018

He basically does some variation of a "vine and flower" backdrop on almost all of his portrait paintings. It's unique to say the least and he would be an incredible botanical artist.

a kennedy

(36,763 posts)
89. Yes, yes, both artists have captured Barack and Michelle perfectly in
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:10 AM
Feb 2018

their other works. You can see how the artists image came to life with each one of their paintings. I just wish Michelle’s arms would look like the arms every woman in America tried to get when this photo came out:

https://www.sfgate.com/living/article/Michelle-Obama-s-bare-arms-stir-controversy-3247209.php

Remember when all hell broke lose when this photo hit the stands??? A W E S O M E

BumRushDaShow

(173,651 posts)
95. Meanwhile
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:40 AM
Feb 2018

almost every female anchor on television news is in sleeveless dresses year round... including in the colder winter areas.

But she can wear those sleeveless gowns!!!! Inaugural redux -

demmiblue

(40,075 posts)
67. Pro-Trump trolls are coordinating a smear campaign against Obama portrait artist, Kehinde Wiley
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:16 PM
Feb 2018
As a response to the unveiling of former President Barack Obama’s official portrait, pro-Trump trolls launched a smear campaign against artist Kehinde Wiley, claiming a painting of his symbolizes an attack against white people and that the artist “seems racist.”

On Twitter and online message boards like the “politically correct” threads on 4chan, 8chan, and The_Donald subreddit on Reddit, pro-Trump trolls are smearing Wiley by claiming his rendition of Judith beheading Holofernes, a modern twist on a classical theme including works by Caravaggio, Rembrandt, Rubens, and others, is “a ‘queen’ cutting off the head of a young white child.” Commenters on the message boards and Twitter have said Wiley “seems racist” and accused the artist of being “the definition of racism.”

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/02/12/pro-trump-trolls-are-coordinating-smear-campaign-against-obama-portrait-artist-kehinde-wiley/219343


Go away.
 

Morris64

(78 posts)
105. Thank you for this!!!
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 01:02 AM
Feb 2018

It still too closely resembles a woman to me. Maybe it’s just a sensitive week for me, buried a good friend today.

Thank you again!

 

Morris64

(78 posts)
106. For what its worth, this is still a kill whitey thing
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 10:54 AM
Feb 2018

According to the artist himself. Sad.

“In one hand, she holds a knife. In the other, a cleanly severed brunette female head. “It’s sort of a play on the ‘kill whitey’ thing,” Wiley says.”

http://nymag.com/arts/art/rules/kehinde-wiley-2012-4/

MrScorpio

(73,778 posts)
109. Every single one of those paintings by European and American artists are "kill whitey" depictions
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 11:11 AM
Feb 2018

Last edited Wed Feb 14, 2018, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

But no one ever cared about the "white-on-white" paintings.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
25. Style-wise, I love Michelle's... But it doesn't look much like her.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:17 PM
Feb 2018

Barrack's I don't like at all. The garden ruins it for me. It's like he was just placed on top of a garden painting. It lacks depth.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
36. That's about where I'm at, too.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:30 PM
Feb 2018

President Obama's looks like he was photographed in the chair and superimposed there. It's a little too 'photoshop-y' for me.

Sanity Claws

(22,461 posts)
26. I don't understand Michelle's dress
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:18 PM
Feb 2018

Almost monochromatic dress, no lipstick, and then blue nail polish.
The muscles on her arms are downplayed.

TygrBright

(21,417 posts)
27. At first, I wasn't much taken with the portrait of Michelle.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:19 PM
Feb 2018

But the more I look at it, the more it draws me in. I see enormous subtlety in the balance of simple geometric elements with the more organic shapes of flesh, hair and cloth and their understated modeling and shadowing detail.

I get an impression of great strength and integrity.

I could look at it for hours.

The portrait of Barack is more instantly evocative of a 'wow!' reaction, but it has many layers as well.

I miss them so much.

I'm so proud, grateful, and honored that he was our validly-elected, freely-chosen President for eight years during my lifetime, and that the whole family provided quality leadership.

appreciatively,
Bright

LAS14

(15,584 posts)
45. Me too. They both said the artist got to the real person....
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:53 PM
Feb 2018

It makes me think that that wonderful Michelle frown is more appropriate to these times than her smile. Not that the portrait is a frown. It's in between.

 
29. Both have distracting elements
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:20 PM
Feb 2018

In his portrait, he disappears into the foliage. In her portrait, the dress dominates. Seems strange to draw the eye away from the subject.

Technically, his portrait is superior, although his hands are far too big (inside joke?).

eleny

(46,182 posts)
50. The eye of the beholder strikes again!
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:05 PM
Feb 2018

Although the dress is dramatic her face draws me back to it every time. Funny how we had opposite reactions.

I always thought that Michelle Obama could wear a dress beautifully. She was never, imo, swallowed up by her dresses. That can happen given some of the gowns she wore. But she dominated every time to my eyes. Same in this portrait.

MLAA

(19,860 posts)
35. President Obamas captures him....strength and compassion.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:30 PM
Feb 2018

I love Michelle’s portrait because it captures her style, confidence and exudes her power. The likeness in the face could be a tad better, but I still appreciate it.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
37. Could and should have been better -
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:32 PM
Feb 2018

Not very powerful and lacking in message. Also, why separate official pixs, their "oneness" was the most appealing and most compelling part of their tenure in the White House.

MontanaMama

(24,781 posts)
40. Sooooo....
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:46 PM
Feb 2018

If The Dotard gets thrown out of office or resigns, does he get a portrait? Asking for a friend...

orangecrush

(31,864 posts)
44. The large hands
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:53 PM
Feb 2018

Speak to me not as a joke about Trump, but instead of strength and capability, the feeling of security we had when the helm of the country was in those gentle hands.

Michelle's portrait evokes her unpretentious style, beautiful but not in an artificial way, her genuine caring for ordinary people shines through.

DFW

(60,828 posts)
47. Actually, in person, they don't seem large at all.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:57 PM
Feb 2018

His handshake is firm (actually, strong for a leftie, just like Bill Clinton), and his fingers are long (he should have been a guitarist!), but they aren't anything like the painting implies.

I find Michelle to be far prettier in person than the painting shows. That surprised me more than anything.

DFW

(60,828 posts)
52. Several times, actually.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:07 PM
Feb 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/125170848

I first met him as a Senator in 2006. then again at the Denver Convention in 2008. I got to spend an hour with him during the 2012 campaign season, saw them both briefly at the White House for three years in a row after that.

orangecrush

(31,864 posts)
69. Thank you, Sir
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:29 PM
Feb 2018

for sharing that!

And thank you for your service to our party and country!


DFW

(60,828 posts)
91. No need
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:25 AM
Feb 2018

I just do what I do. Sometimes it takes me to interesting places and lets me hang with interesting people. Most of the time, it's too little sleep and too much work, just like everyone else.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
51. I love both portraits.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:05 PM
Feb 2018

When I first looked at iMichelle Obama's portrait I wondered why the artist didn't use natural tones. Then I remembered how Michelle's beautiful deep rich skin color was a palette for hate. Hateful people (mostly white) would re-imagine Mrs. Obama as an ape or monkey even though lower primates have whitish grey or pink skin and straight hair like most whites. They re-imagined her as a man with a penis because in their world femininity was pale, pink, translucent. So as vibrant, as brilliant, and as beautiful as Mrs Obama is she had to operate in grey scale to do all the amazing things that she did for America. Even her beautiful toned slightly muscular arms were toned down. Her throne of grace was hidden under the spray of her wide skirted draping dress. Yes living in grey scale shows the power of African American endurance, creativity, and wisdom.

The portrait is so powerful that I imagine in 20 years, there will be a political history course simply titled GREY SCALE.

eleny

(46,182 posts)
53. A big thank you to the artist for Michelle Obama's bare arm!
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:08 PM
Feb 2018

Btw, I like both portraits. Artists often create what they feel and I appreciate these efforts.

PatrickforO

(15,554 posts)
54. I like the one of Michelle, particularly her dress. It's just striking.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:10 PM
Feb 2018

Some of the other posters said they would not have recognized this woman as Michelle, and I can see that. Still a striking portrait though, and once you know it IS Michelle, you can see it.

As to the one of Barack, I'm a bit indifferent to it, mainly because of the leafy background. Not sure what the artist wanted to show, but this is a dignified man, a man of gravitas, a statesman and a great president. I'd prefer to see the background lend a little more dignity. Again, the likeness is great. The leaves not at all.

planetc

(9,014 posts)
55. I think both portraits are excellent.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:10 PM
Feb 2018

Without knowing the artist likes greenery, my instant reaction was that it was a happy instance of symbolism--green being the color of growth, nature, hope, and energy, all of which suggest the triumph of his election in the first place. Far from disappearing into the greenery, the likeness of the president burns with energy, focus, intensity, thought, and engagement. He gazes straight at the viewer, challengingly. And then I noticed that there appear to be four or five different kinds of flowers in various stages of bloom, which you would not find in nature emerging from one kind of foliage. I thought the different flowers suggested all the colors of humans in the US, and this president's desire that we should all bloom. The portrait draws the eye, and rivets it on the face of the subject, and says: this is what a president looks like. He may have left office, but he is the ground we all grow from in this country, and there is really no stopping him or his spiritual successors.

As for the portrait of Michelle, I think it's brilliant in a different way. The combination of her sideways pose with the patterns in her long dress create an obvious, but graceful, triangle whose apex is her calm face. Our eyes are drawn upward to hers. And she is not smiling. We have seen her smile beautifully on all sorts of occasions, but we have not had much chance to see her being calm and reflective. (Mrs. Obama, your husband's written several books. There's no law against your writing one.) So the portrait is geometric, clean, elegant, and says to me that we still do not have the measure of this woman who put up with floods of nonsense and abuse from the resident racists. She is still there, and we do not know her well, but the strength and determination in her face unmask a side of her, and all women, that we don't see often. Most women hide aspects of themselves to function socially: Mrs. Obama chooses to reveal some of the qualities she brings to this life, no matter who she's married to.

Sucha NastyWoman

(3,023 posts)
56. My first impression was that Michelles portrait looks more like the artist then Michelle
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:19 PM
Feb 2018

Michelle Obama has a fiery clarity in her eyes. A beautiful glow, also, that show her kindness and intelligence. I don’t see that in this portrait at all. I agree with those who say if they saw this portrait and were asked who it was, many people would not know.

Auggie

(33,382 posts)
65. My gripe: there's no warmth or authenticity to either of these
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:07 PM
Feb 2018

Portrait painting should bring you closer to the subject, not create remoteness (especially with these two wonderful souls).

Very poor execution in my professional opinion. Failing grade.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
66. I intensely dislike the Barack painting
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:15 PM
Feb 2018

More specifically, the background. Because it’s essentially one “even” surface, it has neither linear nor atmospheric perspective — yet it still interacts with the President, who is sitting in a chair, looking both dapper and three dimensional.

It makes me dizzy. Fun as an optical illusion, but not so much as a presidential portrait.

But what would I know? I’m the guy who was escorted out of the Smithsonian for screaming, literally, “The emperor had no clothes!” Mostly because I hate Mark Rothko, because fuck that guy.

I quite like Michelle’s portrait, though.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
71. Enough to make one change his mind!
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:32 PM
Feb 2018

At least about the Michelle one -- I liked Obama's from the beginning, especially when viewing it along with other work by the artist. But seeing it like this, with proper color and, nice and sharp...it's a stunner. I still don't think I would guess it Michelle if I saw it out of context, but it's still a beautiful painting.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
72. I'd have preferred something a bit more formal and dignified... less trendy pop-culture.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:33 PM
Feb 2018

But, I guess it's better than this:



rocktivity

(45,013 posts)
73. Nowhere near presidential enough
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:38 PM
Feb 2018

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The first African-blooded United States president is placed in what is essentially a jungle? And while the artist did manage to capture and project his essence, he's been colored an oompah loompah orange.

The painting of Michelle, meanwhile (I cannot consider it a portrait) comes across as the work of an earnest but wall paint-supplied junior high schooler: it's two-dimensional, the dress is the star of the show, and doesn't resemble her in the least.


rocktivity

StarryNite

(12,197 posts)
74. I want to like them but...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:38 PM
Feb 2018

I really don't like them. The explanation for all the leaves and flowers helps me understand why all that surrounds President Obama. I do like the way his eyes are portrayed. However, Michelle Obama's eyes don't sparkle in the painting. She looks sad and unsure, not full of life the way we are used to seeing her. But then again, I guess we are all sad and unsure these days.

3catwoman3

(30,206 posts)
76. What is "off" about the face of Michelle's portrait, IMO, is the right side...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:09 PM
Feb 2018

...of the face (the left, as you look at it). The iris of the right eye is too close to the nose, giving a cross-eyed look, and that entire side of the face looks smaller. If you cover that side of the face and look at just her left side, it does look like her at least somewhat. The other side does not. Not even a little.

And before anyone chimes in to inform me that our faces are not symmetrical, I do know this.

tblue37

(68,478 posts)
77. Ooohhh--she is wearing her famous blue-grey nail color! I didn't notice that in
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:15 PM
Feb 2018

the image in the earlier thread. It's a pretty portrait, but the face doesn't look much like her (though everything else does). Also, she usually smiles.

Ilsa

(64,757 posts)
79. I think Michelle's eyes are more prominent in realty.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:18 PM
Feb 2018

But I think the artist captured the essence of her style, intelligence, and demeanor.

doc03

(39,235 posts)
80. God what were they thinking. I think they are awful. Sorry I
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:19 PM
Feb 2018

liked them both and think Obama was a great president but no I don't like that at all. But
what do I know.

kpete

(72,904 posts)
83. I am an artist
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 08:19 PM
Feb 2018

and an art teacher
Don't even get me started on Art History
It is the only thing other than politics that I am obsessed with.

I FIND THESE PORTRAITS SO REFRESHING!!!

Compared to these:



LAS14

(15,584 posts)
88. Thanks! It really brings home how special the Obamas are. How they...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:58 PM
Feb 2018

... broaden our horizons.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
103. As a fellow artist I totally agree!
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 01:14 PM
Feb 2018

While I greatly appreciate the craftsmanship past artists have put into their paintings of presidents and first ladies, I think such unique art is prefect to represent the uniqueness that is the Obamas and IMO they each capture the essence of who the Obamas are.

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
86. I hope the Obamas are happy with the portraits.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:29 PM
Feb 2018

It would be a shame if they thought they are as bad as I think they are.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
90. I adore them
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:12 AM
Feb 2018

I was taken aback at first glance, them I saw how gorgeous the work really is. Just stunning

DFW

(60,828 posts)
92. What struck me was how similar BHO's portrait was to a family portrait of us about 20 years ago.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:33 AM
Feb 2018

Someone has the same taste in backgrounds:
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fishwax

(29,346 posts)
100. I think they're stunning. I love them.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:22 PM
Feb 2018

I think the president's is a more accurate likeness, but I prefer the painting of Michelle. It's so striking, as is she.

I love how confidently they've disrupted the traditional style of these national gallery portraits.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
102. I was looking for this, thank you.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 01:13 PM
Feb 2018

Mrs. Obama's portrait looks more like her daughters. It delights me that she may have included them in the homage. Just my silly, human side showing.

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