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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf The second amendment were written like this, we wouldnt have this problem
Before I get into the text I propose, I want to say that I am by no means a constitutional scholar, in fact I am a truck driver by trade. But I have read the constitution and all of the amendments a number of times and I am a firm believer in context as well as keeping in mind that the circumstances In which the Constitution was written.
The very first words of the very first amendment deal with religion and its appropriate place in government (none) and restrictions on the government to involve itself there in.
The fact that the second amendment deals with guns before even the protection of personal property or the right to due process or a jury trial are mentioned has always interested me.
The third amendment, being the least litigated in the Supreme Court history, is also important as it relates to the context of the day and times with which the first 10 amendments were written. It was a common place circumstance in late 1700s New England where British soldiers could simply walk into your house and say this is ours now or the captain lives here now or whatever and force you out. But that sort of situation hasnt occurred to American citizens since the Civil War where the union army did that very thing to many southern households.
Having said that, consider how different our nations perspective on gun ownership would be if the second amendment, written in the late 1700s appeared as follows;
The word own or owner or ownership does not appear in the text of the Second Amendment as currently adopted nor does it appear in the text I provided above. In fact the word own or ownership actually appears relatively infrequently in the first 10 amendments to the constitution. It has been argued that the unfettered right to own guns and keep them in your home is a bastardization of the intent of the original wording of the Second Amendment.
Edit to add, as my dad used to say, using an ancient expression;
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride
Flame away
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)Better than the existing 2A
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)That qualifier makes clear that the founders understood the dangers of a Musket and that regulation of it was needed...for a Musket no less. Certainly had they foreseen what technology would transform the Musket into and the creation of Law Enforcement Agencys as well as a standing Military. The 2nd Amendment would be vastly different if it existed at all.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)And it was clear most of the framers did not like the idea of a permanent standing army
Also the idea of law enforcement which I assume you meant police forces, were also held in disdain, and the advent of the so-called modern police force didnt happen until the late 1800s.
Google the violent beginnings of American police departments
Youll find some interesting reading
Igel
(35,359 posts)Where it's granting a limited right and setting up a kind of organization.
That utterly missing the intent of the bill of rights, which was merely there to point out that these particular rights existed apart from the Constitution and the Constitution was there to make sure they were upheld--while taking pains to point out that these are not the sum total of such rights, just a limited selection of some important ones.
It's more Russian or Roman law than English common law, in other words, in which the state grants rights instead of free citizens granting the state a limited ability to limit their rights.
ProfessorGAC
(65,207 posts)I completely agree that the OP proposal reads like the government granting a right, as opposed to the intent which was to prohibit the government from suborning rights that existed inherently.