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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:26 PM Feb 2018

A Democrat has zero chance of winning a Utah Senate seat.... so Romney getting it is ok


In states where it is literally impossible for a Democrat to win a seat, the next-best result is for an anti-Trump Republican to win the seat.

In order to Impeach and Remove Trump, we'll need 67 Senate votes to convict.

We're never going to get to 67 Dems in the Senate in the next couple years.... even if we won every single Senate race in '18, we'd only have 57.... so we need Never-Trump Republicans to make up the difference.


I believe that if a Democratic-led House votes to impeach President Trump, that Romney would be a "guilty" vote in the Senate.


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A Democrat has zero chance of winning a Utah Senate seat.... so Romney getting it is ok (Original Post) scheming daemons Feb 2018 OP
It is funny how far we have gone in the wrong direction hueymahl Feb 2018 #1
It almost feels like we have been subjected to some type of brainwashing propaganda technique. jalan48 Feb 2018 #14
I would rather Evan McMullin, but I don't think he would win obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #2
Agree completely. tonyt53 Feb 2018 #4
I also agree. femmocrat Feb 2018 #12
At least Hatch will be gone. Sneederbunk Feb 2018 #3
Trump having to deal with Romney holding cards will be interesting. sunonmars Feb 2018 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author vi5 Feb 2018 #11
Give him time? imanamerican63 Feb 2018 #6
Romney will make all kinds of eloquent speeches, and then go ahead bullwinkle428 Feb 2018 #7
That's what I fear as well pandr32 Feb 2018 #16
I'm afraid that will happen as well NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #19
Yeah, so lets not try. vi5 Feb 2018 #8
Romney sold his soul, he wouldnt vote to impeach. Canoe52 Feb 2018 #9
Romney may not be all that reliable IMHO BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #10
you do remember the suck-up session with frog legs, right? shanny Feb 2018 #13
What if the frog legs event got Romney to turn a certain corner? One fierywoman Feb 2018 #18
Doug Jones zipplewrath Feb 2018 #15
I dont trust Willard at all. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2018 #17
Thanks for posting a Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #20

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
14. It almost feels like we have been subjected to some type of brainwashing propaganda technique.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:56 PM
Feb 2018

Reagan, Romney and the awful Bush/Cheney duo are now preferable choices when compared to Trump.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
2. I would rather Evan McMullin, but I don't think he would win
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:27 PM
Feb 2018

Mitt is pretty awful, but he isn't bonkers, and is intelligent and pretty patriotic ie wouldn't commit treason like this bunch.

sunonmars

(8,657 posts)
5. Trump having to deal with Romney holding cards will be interesting.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:39 PM
Feb 2018

Romney could get some significant payback.

Response to sunonmars (Reply #5)

bullwinkle428

(20,662 posts)
7. Romney will make all kinds of eloquent speeches, and then go ahead
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:43 PM
Feb 2018

and give Trump everything he wants.

So in effect, it will be like Hatch never left.

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
16. That's what I fear as well
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:03 PM
Feb 2018

He has been quite a flip-flopper on issues--showing party all the way.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
19. I'm afraid that will happen as well
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:33 PM
Feb 2018

Corker made some nice speeches,too, but still voted for the Trump Tax Scam

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
8. Yeah, so lets not try.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:45 PM
Feb 2018

Seems like a good approach. I mean Republicans never run candidates in heavily blue states or anything. And it's not like we're winning in plenty of deep red areas lately due to Trump or anything. Giving up before it even starts is probably the best approach.



If anyone is counting on Romney to be the voice of sanity for anything then we are much farther gone than I ever expected we would be.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
10. Romney may not be all that reliable IMHO
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:45 PM
Feb 2018

He dislikes Trumps and Utah's are not liking Trump either. In that respect Hatch messed up big time. Utahns are of the mindset (thanks to Mormondom) that it must always be a Republican over a Democrat and Trump was the only Republican on the ballot for POTUS. BUT, Romney but rolled over and showed his underbelly when SoS was in the offering.

So I suppose it'll be Romney who might dislike Trump enough to vote for impeachment, or another Rep like the lock step Mia Love type that would for sure try to protect Trump when it comes down to a vote.

Like walking across broken glass and seeing if the Republican candidate will eventually throw you a bandaid....where you all know a Dem would give you a pair of shoes even before you have to take that first step.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
13. you do remember the suck-up session with frog legs, right?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:50 PM
Feb 2018

when rMoney was hoping for a Cabinet post?

so just how "never tRump" do you think he's likely to be?

zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
15. Doug Jones
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:02 PM
Feb 2018

Alternate strategy. Find the most un-mormon Republican candidate one can find, and run a local democrat against them.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
20. Thanks for posting a
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:51 PM
Feb 2018

Truism. Knowing how Utah Politics play out,as of 1976,Taft Benson assured the GOP a continuing control of State and Federal office holders.

The State of Utah is a modern day Theocracy. Enough said.

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