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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:24 PM Feb 2018

Some sleeper information in today's indictment

It wasn't just 13 people - According to the indictment, the Internet Research Agency employed HUNDREDS of people and had a budget of MILLIONS of dollars.

Mueller found the money - Concord Management had direct ties to the Russian government, funded this and other operations against the US, and identified 14 bank accounts that the money passed through. Meaning he has detailed financial information from banks doing business in Russia.

Mueller has detailed information on internal organization operations - he must have informants in Russia who are giving him good information.

Mueller has personal emails from these people - We have probably hacked a lot of relevant email accounts.

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Some sleeper information in today's indictment (Original Post) marylandblue Feb 2018 OP
2015 NYT article: dalton99a Feb 2018 #1
I have had that page bookmarked since 2015. Ilsa Feb 2018 #22
is this the same org that we had cameras in? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #23
I Believe It said an ANNUAL Budget of MillionS of dollars Stallion Feb 2018 #2
Yes, it does say that. marylandblue Feb 2018 #4
Wonder how much went to Facebook overall? Auggie Feb 2018 #8
Similar to what Nance has said !! That it sounds like the FBI has some inside info into uponit7771 Feb 2018 #3
Was a Russian extradited from his vacation in Spain recently? Could be completely unrelated. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #9
My first thought too - this is what Nance said... people physically there on the inside. YES! liberalla Feb 2018 #19
I was also thinking he outed thier names in the indictment for a reason infullview Feb 2018 #5
Well I don't think you can indict an anonymous person, so he had to name them marylandblue Feb 2018 #7
Maybe we now know why the NRA has been so quiet. GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #6
is anyone else here giggling like mad upon reading this stuff? fierywoman Feb 2018 #10
None of my reactions are laughing WhiteTara Feb 2018 #18
For sure, weeping for our country, but I'm laughing because (it seems) fierywoman Feb 2018 #20
ah, schadenfreude WhiteTara Feb 2018 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #11
The Internet Research Agency was very close to Vladimir Putin... kentuck Feb 2018 #12
Is this indictment the stuff the Danes shared with us OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #24
This is important orangecrush Feb 2018 #13
They can't spin away that trump said this was all fake news for the past 2 years. flibbitygiblets Feb 2018 #14
Mueller is playing chess orangecrush Feb 2018 #15
This is fascinating. Can't wait to see the movie to see how this all ends! Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #16
They're discussing this on CNN right now - Laura Coates (an ex-prosecutor) just said to the effect: George II Feb 2018 #17

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
1. 2015 NYT article:
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:26 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:26 AM - Edit history (2)

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html
The Agency
From a nondescript office building in St. Petersburg, Russia,
an army of well-paid “trolls” has tried to wreak havoc all
around the Internet — and in real-life American communities.
By ADRIAN CHEN | JUNE 2, 2015

Around 8:30 a.m. on Sept. 11 last year, Duval Arthur, director of the Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness for St. Mary Parish, Louisiana, got a call from a resident who had just received a disturbing text message. “Toxic fume hazard warning in this area until 1:30 PM,” the message read. “Take Shelter. Check Local Media and columbiachemical.com.”

St. Mary Parish is home to many processing plants for chemicals and natural gas, and keeping track of dangerous accidents at those plants is Arthur’s job. But he hadn’t heard of any chemical release that morning. In fact, he hadn’t even heard of Columbia Chemical. St. Mary Parish had a Columbian Chemicals plant, which made carbon black, a petroleum product used in rubber and plastics. But he’d heard nothing from them that morning, either. Soon, two other residents called and reported the same text message. Arthur was worried: Had one of his employees sent out an alert without telling him?

If Arthur had checked Twitter, he might have become much more worried. Hundreds of Twitter accounts were documenting a disaster right down the road. “A powerful explosion heard from miles away happened at a chemical plant in Centerville, Louisiana #ColumbianChemicals,” a man named Jon Merritt tweeted. The #ColumbianChemicals hashtag was full of eyewitness accounts of the horror in Centerville. @AnnRussela shared an image of flames engulfing the plant. @Ksarah12 posted a video of surveillance footage from a local gas station, capturing the flash of the explosion. Others shared a video in which thick black smoke rose in the distance.

Dozens of journalists, media outlets and politicians, from Louisiana to New York City, found their Twitter accounts inundated with messages about the disaster. “Heather, I’m sure that the explosion at the #ColumbianChemicals is really dangerous. Louisiana is really screwed now,” a user named @EricTraPPP tweeted at the New Orleans Times-Picayune reporter Heather Nolan. Another posted a screenshot of CNN’s home page, showing that the story had already made national news. ISIS had claimed credit for the attack, according to one YouTube video; in it, a man showed his TV screen, tuned to an Arabic news channel, on which masked ISIS fighters delivered a speech next to looping footage of an explosion. A woman named Anna McClaren (@zpokodon9) tweeted at Karl Rove: “Karl, Is this really ISIS who is responsible for #ColumbianChemicals? Tell @Obama that we should bomb Iraq!” But anyone who took the trouble to check CNN.com would have found no news of a spectacular Sept. 11 attack by ISIS. It was all fake: the screenshot, the videos, the photographs.


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And in 2014 - a year before the NYT expose:

https://toinformistoinfluence.com/2014/06/02/russian-internet-research-agency-hosts-paid-commentors/
Russian Internet Research Agency hosts Paid Commentors
June 2, 2014 | Joel Harding

For months I have seen the results of what appears to be paid commentors, supported by or paid by Russia. The Russian paid commenters appear to have a list of talking points, which seem to change about once a week.

I could not prove, however, that there were actually paid commentors, paid by Russia. We have seen evidence of their talking points, I even blogged about it, here.

In countless discussion groups, I have been accused, by Russians (or pro-Russians) of being a paid commenter. On Facebook, especially, pro-Russian commenters accused me of being a paid commenter for the US. The first time I was accused of that I had to sit back and contemplate what they were saying.

I know for certain that the US does not have such ‘paid commenters’, I am not a paid commenter and I do not work for the US Government. I know that some Combatant Commanders have advertised for that capability, to create 50 or more false identities per person, but that would still limit the number of people commenting on behalf of the US – because of the limited number of people actually working in these US programs – even with defense contractors. I often wonder how large the Russians believe our Combatant Commanders headquarters and staff really are. I’ve been at multiple Combatant Commanders (then called CINCs), and they’re big, but when it comes to working in Information Operations, the staff is very small. In this era of cutbacks, I’m sure the staffs are even smaller.


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Full searchable text of the indictment:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/rosenstein-mueller-indictment-russia/553601/

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
22. I have had that page bookmarked since 2015.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:16 PM
Feb 2018

Shared it with lots of people so they could see how serious the threat was.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
23. is this the same org that we had cameras in?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:35 PM
Feb 2018

remember that report last week? The Scandanavian country that gave us their intel....

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. Yes, it does say that.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:34 PM
Feb 2018

Also says the Concord company was spending $1.25 million per month by September 2016.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
3. Similar to what Nance has said !! That it sounds like the FBI has some inside info into
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:31 PM
Feb 2018

... Russia's operations.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
9. Was a Russian extradited from his vacation in Spain recently? Could be completely unrelated.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

U.S. prosecutors said Peter Levashov, 37, ran the Kelihos botnet, a network of more than 100,000 infected devices used by cyber criminals to distribute viruses, ransomware, phishing emails and other spam attacks.

Levashov denies the charges in an eight-count indictment handed down by a federal grand jury in Connecticut in April.

Levashov, who fought the extradition, told Spain’s High Court in September that he had worked for Russian President Vladimir Putin’s United Russia party for the last 10 years, Russia’s RIA news agency reported.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-levashov/russian-accused-of-hacking-extradited-to-u-s-from-spain-idUSKBN1FM2RG

liberalla

(9,247 posts)
19. My first thought too - this is what Nance said... people physically there on the inside. YES!
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:27 PM
Feb 2018

I just hope they're being kept safe somewhere so they can keep breathing.

infullview

(981 posts)
5. I was also thinking he outed thier names in the indictment for a reason
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:24 PM
Feb 2018

Is it possible other countries who are under attack by these same people will feel inclined to seek justice?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. Well I don't think you can indict an anonymous person, so he had to name them
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:33 PM
Feb 2018

But I think this indictment shows that he knows everything that happened in Russia - who, what, when, where and why. If I were involved in this conspiracy, I'd cut a deal now. If I were a Russian involved in it, I'd never leave Russia again.

WhiteTara

(29,715 posts)
18. None of my reactions are laughing
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:14 PM
Feb 2018

I'm of course glad to validated for knowing that Trump is a Traitor, but I weep for my country.

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
20. For sure, weeping for our country, but I'm laughing because (it seems)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:11 PM
Feb 2018

stuff is going to start to stick to him going forward.

Response to marylandblue (Original post)

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
12. The Internet Research Agency was very close to Vladimir Putin...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:08 PM
Feb 2018

...was what a former Russian Ambassador, McFall, said on Nicolle's show.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
24. Is this indictment the stuff the Danes shared with us
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:42 PM
Feb 2018

....Danish spies hacked into the networks of Russian hackers and shared the information with the United States, and eventually providing proof that Russia is responsible for hacking into the Democratic Party in 2016.....


https://www.metro.us/news/the-big-stories/danish-spies-shared-intel-russian-cozy-bear

orangecrush

(19,555 posts)
13. This is important
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:09 PM
Feb 2018

The cons are trying to spin the indictments as vindicating Trump.

Bullshit.

The investigation is ongoing.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
14. They can't spin away that trump said this was all fake news for the past 2 years.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:51 PM
Feb 2018

Suddenly now it's "Vindication!"? Sure, feel free to keep denying. What could ever go wrong?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. This is fascinating. Can't wait to see the movie to see how this all ends!
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:15 PM
Feb 2018

I keep thinking about a future movie on all this. Can't help it. I hope it ends well for the country. Which is to say, the anti-democracy traitors get locked up.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. They're discussing this on CNN right now - Laura Coates (an ex-prosecutor) just said to the effect:
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:34 PM
Feb 2018

"this was an inside job, the FBI had had undercover people working from the inside."

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