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could someone explain unwitting people comment to me?? (Original Post) bluestarone Feb 2018 OP
They didn't know they were dealing with Russians most likely. Note it does NOT exclude uponit7771 Feb 2018 #1
ty that's what i thought BUT bluestarone Feb 2018 #3
Perhaps they didn't know it was Russians Control-Z Feb 2018 #15
Its their out. Last line of defense Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #2
Media are running with that like crazy, BTW Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #4
so not MUELLERS thoughts right? bluestarone Feb 2018 #6
The report said it but they're leaving out the second half of the sentence, which is key. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #11
Rosenstein said it, IIRC, but I dont know if he was reading from the indictment Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #13
He's saying that the GOPers who dealt with marybourg Feb 2018 #5
right BUT i'm thinking the GOPer's bluestarone Feb 2018 #9
If I had to guess... renegade000 Feb 2018 #7
He's saying that there were some unwitting people involved BUT he also left the door wide open pnwmom Feb 2018 #8
hoping so bluestarone Feb 2018 #12
It means the trumps knew what they were doing, but claimed stupidity. pwb Feb 2018 #10
yep i'm hoping Mueller IS NOT BELIEVING THEM!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #14
Lenin Turbineguy Feb 2018 #16
haha bluestarone Feb 2018 #19
I assume it means they did not realize shanny Feb 2018 #17
It means Applan Feb 2018 #18
true and still are falling for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #20
They are'nt going to touch Trump Puzzledtraveller Feb 2018 #21

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. They didn't know they were dealing with Russians most likely. Note it does NOT exclude
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:36 PM
Feb 2018

... Benedict Donald's current Kremlin Clan

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
15. Perhaps they didn't know it was Russians
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:47 PM
Feb 2018

they were working with. It seems like they would have had to know they were spreading negative, even fake, stories. Anything to win.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
2. Its their out. Last line of defense
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:37 PM
Feb 2018

Either crooked or incompetent

Defense that is time immemorial, throughout repub administrations, from Nixon to Reagan to Bush to Bush to ahora’s imbecile in chief

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. Media are running with that like crazy, BTW
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:39 PM
Feb 2018

It was CNN’s Underflag for quite awhile; same as MSNBC. Bobble heads were using it with almost every other phrase all afternoon

Emphasizing much?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. Rosenstein said it, IIRC, but I dont know if he was reading from the indictment
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:43 PM
Feb 2018

Dunno why Mueller would include language like that in his paperwork. Seems to be working against the thrust of the investigation

No need to say whoever the contacts were acted as unwitting agents

They aren’t part of the indictment. Why would he specify at this point whether they’re witting or not.

That would make for a problem if he ends up seeking one against them

marybourg

(12,624 posts)
5. He's saying that the GOPers who dealt with
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:39 PM
Feb 2018

the hidden Russians were "dupes". He's not talking about the Russians who actually MET in person with tRump campaign officials.

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
9. right BUT i'm thinking the GOPer's
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:41 PM
Feb 2018

NEW EXACTLTY what they were doing so my question is does Mueller BELIEVE them? (GOPers)

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
7. If I had to guess...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:40 PM
Feb 2018

The expression refers to small fry crooks that directly dealt with the Internet Research Agency that thought they were engaging in typical cybercrime and not an elaborate Russian espionage plot.

Doesn't mean that there aren't going to be many more indictments of higher ups that were in the know about the broader plot. I'm pretty sure Kushner and Junior are completely boned at this point.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
8. He's saying that there were some unwitting people involved BUT he also left the door wide open
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:40 PM
Feb 2018

for some WITTING people to be involved. And there are unnamed co-conspirators, who could be practically anyone.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210242241

pwb

(11,261 posts)
10. It means the trumps knew what they were doing, but claimed stupidity.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:42 PM
Feb 2018

Same as nitwits. Dumb fucks, gullible , idiots, easily fooled, not sure that is a defense but they are trying to use it.

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
14. yep i'm hoping Mueller IS NOT BELIEVING THEM!!
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:45 PM
Feb 2018

I guess Mueller KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING so i shouldn't worry to much!!!!

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
17. I assume it means they did not realize
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:02 PM
Feb 2018

they were acting as agents of a foreign power.

'Course, stupidity and/or ignorance is not an excuse in a criminal case...but it does leave open an escape hatch for those who wish to desert the sinking ship. I think Mueller is extending a welcoming hand to anyone who might suddenly feel the need to testify.

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