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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Mueller/Rosenstein may have just bought their investigation some life insurance.
How are the R's going to justify firing either one of them anytime soon?
oldtime dfl_er
(7,176 posts)45* may not care about the optics of screwing other women but he does care about the optics of collusion. If he fires Rosenstein / Mueller now it will certainly look like he's obstructing justice bigtime, and siding with the Russians.
Also, McConnell, Ryan, Nunes and others are looking mighty suspicious today.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)avoiding the Media.
Frank Luntz will be getting a lot of overtime pay this Weekend.
When the Rethugs go to some Criminal Governor to attack the FBI ,well,that is a panic move.
lindysalsagal
(22,910 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)before trump was a candidate. So, trump can say "No collusion."
I don't think that helps us much.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)That helps us a lot. It buys us time for Mueller to continue on his investigation, collecting information that will prove collusion.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)was some time ago. Most of conspiracy theories about trump firing Mueller were started by the same people who have been predicting Mueller would be fired every weekend since last May.
I'm feeling more and more like Fitzmas.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)And if Rosenstein was fired, then a replacement could tie Mueller's hands -- without actually firing him -- in the investigation.
Now Rosenstein has been given a new lease on life. They can't fire him now because it will look like they ARE colluding with the Russians.
This is NOTHING like Fitzmas. There have already been two guilty pleas and two other indictments -- one of which is probably about to become a 3rd guilty plea.
And Adam Schiff, ranking member of the House Intelligence committee, says they have seen an "abundance" of evidence of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. Mueller has all that evidence and more.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Look, I hope I'm wrong. But we are approaching a year of investigation and nothing tying trump to anything. His son-in-law maybe, maybe one or two kids, but if they have evidence, it's time to release it. Schiff is cool and he is doing exactly what I'd expect a Democrat to do. But, what he says will not indict/impeach trump. It's just a fact, and I'm not happy about it.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)the House we currently have and the House votes against impeachment.
This is like a Mafia investigation -- which Mueller has successfully prosecuted, when he got John Gotti's conviction. Those prosecutions take time. And the case has to be rock solid.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)And if there was something so heinous it would convert white wingers, it would have been bad enough to release before now.
Again, I hope I'm wrong. If I am, remind me and I will not only eat crow, but I'll eat crow dung and chase it with Mescal.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)or voted 3rd party, thinking it didn't matter.
And we need to win back at least one House of Congress -- which this indictment could help with, because it will put pressure on the R's to support reforms that will make our elections safer.
If we win at least one House, then we will have control of ifs committees. And when Mueller comes forth with his report, our committees will be able to dig into it and then push for impeachment.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)He may not have known he was going to win in 2013 (and maybe he did know then) that if
he ran he would have the support of Putin. Everyone knew that Hillary was running and we now know that Putin would have done anything to defeat her.
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