Can we say it. Will ALL democrats believe it??

[boston bean]

The election was stolen from Hillary Clinton and given to trumpass by russian oligarchs.

Real true oligarchs. Not some made up bullshit about oligarchies. Like some would have you believe she was a part of.

This is all so fucking twisted. It’s a fucking horror show.

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. I've been saying it since 9 PM election night.

[blm]

10. RED DAWN

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210243682

[Wwcd]

29. Yes, we have waited a long time for vindication.

Every single person who played a role in the dismantleing of our nation, its people, its gov't, its future will be named & brought to face their fate.

[ailsagirl]

31. Me too

Clear as day

and scary as hell

[Richard D]

37. Me too . . .

. . . and I bet if someone looked deep enough, DU crashing on election night was part of their plan and action.

[dlk]

2. Our Country Lost a Wonderful Opportunity

[handmade34]

3. I am sickened

by the lost opportunity to progress as a Country... yes, Hillary Clinton should be President

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. Donald Trump is an ILLIGITIMATE president.

As is his Supreme Court pick, the Administration, everything. That means Mike Pence is also illigitimately VP.

[LovingA2andMI]

46. Yes....

To BOTH of This!

[chuckstevens]

5. I have ZERO doubt the actual votes were flipped!

[politicaljunkie41910]

12. Neither do I. They never did a complete review.

First they told us that they didn't access the voting records. Then they said that they did, but that they didn't change any votes. Last week they finally confirm that they did hack into the voting records but they don't believe that they changed any votes. If this had been the GOP that this had happened to, they would have tore up the MotherF'ing place, and would have not allowed the vote counts from any of the states to be certified and we would still be in court until the GOP's handpicked SCOTUS had given them the result that they wanted and the SCOTUS would have done so. The Mitch McConnell would have said that the SCOTUS had spoken and that would have been the end of it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. For sure - mathematically impossible for her to lose MI PA and WI nt

[LovingA2andMI]

47. Remember...

It was a + 11K Vote Margin in Michigan which was REALLY, REALLY close for a Presidential Election. No Doubt, Russia played a role in the Michigan Election. Influence and/or flipping votes, it was either one or both.

Lifelong Michigander here that will NEVER BELIEVE after the FBI revealing today, Hillary Lost Michigan in 2016.

[Lokilooney]

49. Can you

Show the numbers that prove it was mathematically impossible?

[dflprincess]

22. I'm with you nt

[Squinch]

54. No question.

[Hoyt]

6. So what exactly are we supposed to do about it. Bomb Russia, sanction them, what exactly?

Fact is, we should have been prepared to stop it and respond to BS ads, bots, lies, etc. But we weren't. Besides, we've done it to Russia and plenty of other countries, hell we've invaded countries to change rulers.

I don't like it either, but I don't think we start WWIII over it. We just make darn sure it doesn't happen again. That's tougher with trump as Prez and FBI likely severely weakened. But at least we can commit to getting out the vote, and contesting lies.

[TomSlick]

11. Yes, we absolutely must make sure it doesn't happen again. Although, so far nothing is being done.

Congress - months ago - voted sanctions against Russia as a penalty for interference in the election - sanctions which Trump has refused to implement.

One - but only one - way to make sure this doesn't happen again if for Russia to pay some price for its actions. Should there be a military response? Of course not. That does not mean there should not be a response.

Yes, we absolutely must get out the vote! Yes, Democrats must be prepared to contest lies and point out foreign involvement. The Democrats need to start hiring the computer folks who can identify foreign ad, bots, etc.

[Igel]

14. First show that they had an effect.

That's not been claimed by anybody with an axe to grind.

[MaryMagdaline]

38. It's not about the Russians to me. They are fighting

Sanctions. Even foxes gotta eat. It's about the future. Document the hacking. Do an audit after every single election. Indict. Audit again. Indict again. Treat this crime the same way we treated the mob. Maybe convince new congress to enact laws to audit elections and require paper ballots everywhere. Lifetime sentences upon convictions. Preventing low level election employees from cooperating in crime, educating whistle blowers in what to look for regarding hacked elections. Already we have Facebook and Twitter weeding out phony accounts to stay on good terms with Feds.

[YessirAtsaFact]

52. We need an audit trail on paper for every vote cast or a paper ballot

And we need to count ballots for every election by hand.

The automated totals wouldn't be official. The hand counts would be. If there is a big difference, there was hanky panky that needs to be investigated.

[MaryMagdaline]

53. Yes to all of that

[ffr]

7. Store your rage as fuel for upcoming potential battles.

We're right there with you. This is a horror show brought on by our enemies and enabled by fellow Americans who call themselves conservatives or republicans or members of the GOP.

You cause is just and with any luck we will get redemption. Somehow.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Russians used our culture against us.

In a free world where money talks, anything and anybody can be bought.

[BoneyardDem]

9. Trump believes it, and is worried his base may be starting to believe it.

He has been forced to admit there was Russian meddling, after a year of denying it and calling it fake news. But he's also very quick to interject there was no collusion and the meddling didn't affect his votes. He knows that only the blind trust he as of the very few will be convinced by his words. All others can see that the now verified Russian interference and all of the other Russian meetings and guilty pleas of Flint and Pappdopolous are becoming a bridge too far.

[MaryMagdaline]

13. I will never ever ever believe that thousands of AA

In Detroit left president blank. I do not believe we lost Florida where overnight the repugs overperformed in low population areas. The vote was hacked

[mercuryblues]

20. You will never convince me

That Michigan went republikkklan after what they did with Flint. Never, Ever.

[MaryMagdaline]

23. With you

[mtngirl47]

34. or that NC elected a Democratic Governor but went for Trump as President

didn't happen without votes being changed

[MaryMagdaline]

39. With you too mtngirl47

[Glamrock]

15. Of course.

Been saying and believing it for a year now.

[Stinky The Clown]

16. Here in SparklyStinkyVille we agree and have since election night.

Many decades ago, in a Business Law class, I was told there is a legal remedy for almost any wrong committed against you.

How Does Hillary get her Presidency back?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. I always have thought it strange the way she said "no worries, you will see, I am not

going anywhere" - of course paraphrasing - but at the time thought - what a weird way of saying "I am not going anywhere" like they all do. It was almost like she knew all Trump's doings and felt she would ultimately be declared the president.

That is what would be the ultimate ....if Mueller proved beyond a shadow that votes stolen and she literally was the legitimate president. Pop the fucking popcorn on that.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

57. Did they cover The Constitution in your "business law" class? SMH

[Stinky The Clown]

58. Please go bother someone else

This post borders on stalking based on your replies to me in my OP about the ban. You're neither funny nor effective.

One more and you will, indeed, be stalking me.

You're being VERY small here.

[Aristus]

17. Yes, I agree 100%.

Unfortunately, the anti-Hillary trolls are going to show up in a few minutes, and do their usual out-of-tune song and clumsy dance.

"Well, you know, Hillary's e-mails, blah, blah, blah, Wall Street speeches, blah, blah blah, pant suits, blabber, blabber, blabber, shrill voice, blah, blah blah, unlikable, blahzee, blahzee, blahzee, not a real progressive..."

It's like trying to eradicate crabgrass...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

45. Like "crabgrass" - I do wonder though of all the real and true and loyal DUers

who loved and supported Bernie - how many of them who would never let it go - and never got on board with Hillary were plants.

Obviously, since we were hacked - they knew about us.

[mercuryblues]

18. Is it time to riot yet?

will the revolution be real if it is not televised?

[Wounded Bear]

19. Putin's Puppet, indeed...

The truth will out.

[Blue Owl]

21. Putin picked a pocket or two

n/t

[mcar]

24. The election WAS stolen!

No doubt now.

[Tatiana]

25. Hillary Clinton won Michigan.

I'll believe Trump won it when pigs fly.

[caballojm]

26. You are correct. It all stinks to high heaven.

[caballojm]

27. Was it ever determined whether or not the Russians were responsible

for the attack on the DU on election night?

[Cha]

28. Now we can say it for proof

positive without anyone trying to deny it!

Mahalo, boston!

[CentralMass]

30. Has someone argued otherwise ?

[pnwmom]

40. Many people have. Some of the same people said Hillary "stole" the primary. n/t

[Squinch]

55. Are you kidding? Where have you been?

[ProudProgressiveNow]

32. K&R nt

[spanone]

33. John Brennan thinks so...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210241948

[Glorfindel]

35. I can't speak for ALL Democrats, but I believe it and will try to convince others.

I want our rage and frustration to be channeled and directed to the upcoming mid-term elections.
"This is all so fucking twisted. It’s a fucking horror show." Amen, boston bean.

[McCamy Taylor]

36. Amen.

And our children are paying the price for it.

[Honeycombe8]

42. Of course it was.

His winning on election night was contrary to almost all polls, and contrary to what I was hearing and seeing around me. I've lived through a few Presidential elections. It made no sense. So I wondered if the Russians had interfered. I wasn't sure they had, but I wondered. I thought the question should be asked, not because I was sore. But because we KNEW the Russians were doing something, and we KNEW the election results didn't make sense, and some things that Trump said before the election.

Now I know. Are we allowed to say it?

[NBachers]

43. Our nation is being fed into a planetary shredding machine by the russians and the republicans.

[Initech]

48. This is what a real conspiracy theory looks like!

We had the most qualified woman in the world, and she had a real chance to be president. Instead it was stolen and given to the most unqualified jackass on the planet with the intent of destroying everything that really makes America great.

And the more you dig deeper in this coup, the more you realize this was no accident - it was a concentrated effort.

[Skittles]

51. doesn't help that Hillary has always been held to impossible standards

while Donald has been held to no standards at all

[Willie Pep]

50. I hope so.

At the very least I hope people become more skeptical about what they read online. There is a lot of disinformation out there parading as progressive or left-wing yet they never seem to attack the GOP. That should ring alarm bells for anyone who is interested in progressive or left-wing politics.

[dottie66]

56. Yes the election was stolen but

what really stuns me is there is no legal recourse to correct this situation. We can vote or protest but we cannot take the election results to court to overturn the results.

[panader0]

59. Just the fact, as revealed in the indictments, the the Russians worked so hard

to prevent her election says it all.