Was it Bernie the man or Bernies ideas that

[wasupaloopa]

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were the draw for his rallies?

Couldn’t Bernie’s ideas combined with the ideas behind the women’s March be the Dem message for 2018?

I think so

We need the rallies and women’s Marches to continue all year right up to November

On edit: This isn’t about women vs white men! Keep that to yourself!

This is about keeping our ideals such as universal health care, income inequality, student loans, women’s equality, sexual abuse, jobs, infrastructure etc. before the electorate. The Trump stories take all the air out of the room.

Keep taking to the streets all yesr

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Didn't go to the rallies, but both drew me to

switch parties and become a Dem so I could support him at our caucus.

[dlk]

2. In an Election Flooded With Misogyny and Machismo, Bernie Was a White Man

His message on income inequality was powerful, however, there were also other factors in play.

[WhiteTara]

7. +1

[Ferrets are Cool]

9. I never thought of Sen. Sanders as a WHITE MAN...he was and is

a man with great ideas and one who cares about the average American. If you think otherwise, that is your right.

[Heartstrings]

3. March for Equality

Is what I'd prefer they be called.

All inclusive. Just a thought....

[Codeine]

4. The energy and the organizational force

behind the march movement has all been driven by women, and women - especially those of color - represent the strong activist base of our party. I’m happy to refer to it as the Women’s March.

[Heartstrings]

5. Like I said

Just a thought, have no issue with it being called what it is.

[Ken Burch]

19. And that's something we all salute.

n/t.

[MrsCoffee]

6. The Dem's had a great message and platform in 2016.

Bernie managed to shit all over that.

The women's marches will continue as a women's movement.

And the Democrats will be just fine without Bernie's attacks on the "absolute failure" that he thinks the Democratic party is.

[R B Garr]

8. Thank you. The Russians could hear the irrational

negativity just like the rest of us.

[dembotoz]

11. +1

[Poiuyt]

10. Bernie is an inspirational leader

A true leader is one who has vision for the where he or she wants to go, and the ability to inspire others to follow. I think that's where Bernie fits. He was able to get people to come to his rallies because he delivers his message without equivocating.

To answer your question, you need to find someone with those ideals (health care, women's equality, etc) who has the ability to deliver the message forcefully, unapologetically, and charismatically.

[dembotoz]

12. both the message and the man...like soup and sandwich

great man
great ideas

[jalan48]

13. Both. Bernie is believable because he is a politician who's not afraid to forego money from

Wall Street corporations and the big banks. It makes him more believable and trustworthy than other candidates in the eyes of millions of Americans.

[msongs]

14. haave you read the most recent indictment? nt

[jalan48]

15. No, did get Bernie recently get indicted?

[Adrahil]

16. Oh yeah? I'd like to see him prove it. Show your tax returns, Bernie. NT

[lunamagica]

17. This would be believable if he has shown us his full tax returns, like he promised

[realFedUp]

18. Those who weren't political before

I had friends who weren't politically involved who creamed over Bernie...like they'd never heard what he spewed before. Could never wrap myself around him. He was never vetted. Still resent him

[LexVegas]

20. No thanks. nt

[Ken Burch]

21. It was the issues and the courage he showed in discussing them.

His candidacy had communications issues with some(mainly older and more conservative)women, and people of color, but it was obvious that the draw was the positive message of change in what the campaign was talking about.

The man could be off-putting, I concede-he probably sounded to older feminists like every early Seventies Left Dude who told them to shut up at a meeting(although in his rallies he never shut up anyone), he could and can be stubborn, he did not listen until too late to those who called on him to address race, gender and identity, and i say that as ONE of the people who begged him on these pages-it was almost impossible for a long time to communicate with the national campaign office. He probably also was the progressive version of the guy who reminds every woman of her FIRST husband.

But the ideas were nothing but good. The encouragement of people to believe that what they wanted to happen was both worth fighting for and achievable. It was a campaign that said to everyone involved in it, 'YOU can make a difference".

That is the part I want us to embrace as a party...not Bernie as nominee, but the sense of possibility and idealism that his campaign possessed, the sense that the limits of the possible can be expanded.

[NCTraveler]

22. It was Clinton and a very small field.

His stars aligned.