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mobeau69

(12,374 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:32 AM Feb 2018

David Jolly smacks down Jack Kingston on CNN just now with a great line.

Talking about what Americans want regarding gun control Jolly said "They want it as hard to get an assault weapon as it is for someone in this White House to get a security clearance."


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David Jolly smacks down Jack Kingston on CNN just now with a great line. (Original Post) mobeau69 Feb 2018 OP
Line of the day! Vinca Feb 2018 #1
You go boy! SummerSnow Feb 2018 #2
Excellent. This is how it is done. -eom poboy2 Feb 2018 #3
They just replayed it as I read your post... BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #4
GOP talking points revealed now. mobeau69 Feb 2018 #5
Like clockwork - there are no depths they won't sink to Cosmocat Feb 2018 #7
Infowars/Alex Jones is big on that as well NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #17
Jack Kingston's comments were shameful. democrank Feb 2018 #6
Yep, he's always an asshole but he took it to a new level this morning. mobeau69 Feb 2018 #9
Jack Kingston is shameful, in and of himself. Paladin Feb 2018 #10
Hiring a bus is supposed to be more difficult than buying a gun? Ilsa Feb 2018 #11
Hey, he was just remembering not fooled Feb 2018 #13
We know this here at DU and DKos, etc. DAMANgoldberg Feb 2018 #21
And there is NOTHING wrong with contacting existing activist groups! hexola Feb 2018 #18
He probably can't imagine how a student can buy an assault rifle IronLionZion Feb 2018 #20
Some of these kids are soon going to graduate Grammy23 Feb 2018 #8
Reminder: Jack Kingston was in Russia in December of 2016 representing Trump DesertRat Feb 2018 #12
I hope he goes down with the rat ship to. nt mobeau69 Feb 2018 #14
I do too. He's a piece of $hit, especially after his comments today. nt DesertRat Feb 2018 #16
Oooohhh good catch not fooled Feb 2018 #15
I knew Kingtons father. He was a UGA professor and a staunch Democrat. CottonBear Feb 2018 #19
"...a greedy, power-hungry, selfish and downright evil man." Raster Feb 2018 #22
Kingston also made a fool of himself about guns jimmy the one Feb 2018 #23
Kingston's making a comeback in the "Punchable Faces" category Blue Owl Feb 2018 #24

mobeau69

(12,374 posts)
5. GOP talking points revealed now.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:14 AM
Feb 2018

Extreme left-wing groups are taking over the protests by the school kids. The protests are a left-wing plot.

Right out of the old Nixon playbook.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
17. Infowars/Alex Jones is big on that as well
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:03 AM
Feb 2018

Anytime there is a mass shooting, his immediate response is that it's a left-wing false flag operation, and we know Trump is a big fan of Jones.

democrank

(12,597 posts)
6. Jack Kingston's comments were shameful.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:37 AM
Feb 2018

He simply couldn't imagine how these kids could hire a bus. Really? Has he not heard of class trips? Sports trips? Couldn't a group of kids each chip in for the cost of the bus, maybe borrow a few bucks from their parents if they didn't have their own money?

Kingston thinks the kids wouldn't do this on their own, that it's a DNC/George Soros plot. Really? So after witnessing a massacre, these kids were just going to grab their backpacks, go home and return to life as usual?

Jack Kingston, like the rest of us, can learn a lot from these kids....like how to act courageously when the situation calls for it.

mobeau69

(12,374 posts)
9. Yep, he's always an asshole but he took it to a new level this morning.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:06 AM
Feb 2018

He gets a paycheck from CNN but Camerota, and later Cuomo, torn into his sorry ass.

He's right up there with that congressman in MO with his plans for an AR-15 giveaway.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
10. Jack Kingston is shameful, in and of himself.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:06 AM
Feb 2018

He's a non-stop piece of right-wing street trash. Nothing he says deserves any serious attention.

Ilsa

(64,363 posts)
11. Hiring a bus is supposed to be more difficult than buying a gun?
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:37 AM
Feb 2018

That's screwed up beyond all imaginings.

not fooled

(6,678 posts)
13. Hey, he was just remembering
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:48 AM
Feb 2018

when kook brothers front group Americans for Prosperity paid for all those fancy buses to haul teabagger ass around to phony grassroots events.

And in fact one quibble I have with these kids when I see them interviewed is that they seem to bend over backwards to not reference political party. The NRA's top congressional whores are all pukes. This is not a Dem-caused problem. The problem and solution are in changing (or kicking out) GOPeePee lawmakers.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
21. We know this here at DU and DKos, etc.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 02:47 PM
Feb 2018

but I can't fault them for this because if it was shown as being overtly partisan, it would go nowhere in this environment.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
18. And there is NOTHING wrong with contacting existing activist groups!
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:32 AM
Feb 2018

His remarks were deplorable!

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
20. He probably can't imagine how a student can buy an assault rifle
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 01:17 PM
Feb 2018

Kids these days are old enough to buy weapons of mass murder but too young to speak on policy. I'm sure he wants them to check their millennial sense of entitlement, learn their place, stop being so uppity, go back to their safe space and eat Tide pods, etc.

Grammy23

(6,122 posts)
8. Some of these kids are soon going to graduate
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:05 AM
Feb 2018

from high school. They will be going off to college. Others will join the military. I saw one young man who has already done early enlistment in the army and has a clear idea of where he will be placed. These are not kindergartners. They are young adults who can legally marry, enter the military, buy guns, drive a car AND vote. They have critical thinking skills thanks to their education and perhaps their parents and they have seen enough. They are sickened by what they have experienced and seen with their own eyes.

Anyone who thinks they do not have the gumption or power to unite for change has forgotten the young people who protested the Vietnam War. Young adults looked into that abyss and took on a powerful force to say NO! Not another pointless death. Not another dime to the folly.

So yes, these young people will unite. They will march, demonstrate and demand action. It will change their lives and, hopefully, all of our lives.

not fooled

(6,678 posts)
15. Oooohhh good catch
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:54 AM
Feb 2018

Traitorous putin-loving pukes who live in glass houses shouldn't cast invective.

CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
19. I knew Kingtons father. He was a UGA professor and a staunch Democrat.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:32 AM
Feb 2018

I met Kingston’s daughter also. She was a post-college hippie singer-songwriter at the time. Kingston’s dad was an amateur artist. They were nice enough folks.

I’m not sure what happened to Jack. I met him once many years before he ran for office. He is a greedy, power-hungry, selfish and downright evil man.

Raster

(21,010 posts)
22. "...a greedy, power-hungry, selfish and downright evil man."
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 03:01 PM
Feb 2018

Republicanism will do that to you.

jimmy the one

(2,808 posts)
23. Kingston also made a fool of himself about guns
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 03:20 PM
Feb 2018

Jack KINGSTON (R) on cnn last weekend vs david jolly (R): -- if you want to put it on the table you also have to tell me why when gun purchases went up did the crime rate go down? And neither of you have said -- no --
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1802/20/nday.04.html

Kingston went on to say that he hadn't heard of any reason whyfor the crime rate went down other than citing 161 million increase in the national gunstock between early 1990's and 2014 (read today).
As if putting over 150 million more guns in people's hands were the reason for the crime decrease.
We say BS! Kingston is either intentionally lying or is ignorant of the facts, I suspect the latter.

One correlation (reason imo) in the decline of violent crime & total crime from early 1990's to now is that the rate of gun ownership has also been declining. By about 30%, both personal & home gun ownership.
Another point is that the new gun sales went maybe half to existing gun owners:



General Social Survey (GSS) .. data show a substantial decline in the shares of both households and individuals with guns... 1973, 49% reported having a gun or revolver in their home or garage. In 2012, 34% said they had a gun in their home or garage.
.. personal gun ownership in 1980, 29% said a gun in their home personally belonged to them. This stands at 22% in the 2012 GSS survey. http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/12/section-3-gun-ownership-trends-and-demographics/
3) ... The Pew Research Center has tracked gun ownership since 1993, and our surveys largely confirm the General Social Survey trend. In our Dec 1993 survey, 45% reported having a gun in their household; in early 1994, the GSS found 44% saying they had a gun in their home. A Jan 2013 Pew Research Center survey found 33% saying they had a gun, rifle or pistol in their home, as did 34% in the 2012 wave of {GSS}.


According to all 3 polls above, personal & household gun ownership rates fell dramatically during the same 8 yr time period as when violent crime & total crime rates fell dramatically, ~1992 - 2000.
National gunstock increased during that time period as well, also to now, but is demonstrably shown that a solid portion of those guns went to existing gun owners rather than creating any increase in the rate of gun owners.
The clinton crime initiative went into effect in 1994, which also had an affect on declining violent crime rates, but wouldn't've affected 1992, 93, 94.

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