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NewsCenter28

(1,837 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:22 PM Feb 2018

Seth Abramson is picking up indications that Michael Flynn is moving to withdraw his Mueller plea

https://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

And here is Judge Sullivan’s order on Friday ordering Mueller to turn over all ‘exculpatory’ evidence on Flynn. It’s called a Brady.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.20.0.pdf

This is like a horror movie. The monster seems dead and then rises from the grave to strike again.
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Seth Abramson is picking up indications that Michael Flynn is moving to withdraw his Mueller plea (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Feb 2018 OP
Mueller needs to prosecute that piece of shit with everything onecaliberal Feb 2018 #1
And his son as well GentryDixon Feb 2018 #11
Definitely. No more chance just put the hammer down. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #15
Mueller should hit him with a legal truck right now and flatten the SOB. sunonmars Feb 2018 #2
So much that! onecaliberal Feb 2018 #16
Mueller has this Guy by the short ones. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #3
Flynn was indicted by a single count for lying to the FBI. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2018 #4
I hope you're right. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #8
A defendant can withdraw a guilty plea before sentencing if they can show The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #5
Thanks for the explanation NewsCenter28 Feb 2018 #9
Sounds like someone's been promised a pardon for his silence. displacedtexan Feb 2018 #6
Did Trump promise him and his sons pardons NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #7
If he was promised a pardon there'd be no reason The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #12
Probably found new charges zipplewrath Feb 2018 #10
Yeah, he probably thought he could get away NewsCenter28 Feb 2018 #13
I'm no legal expert genxlib Feb 2018 #14
Dan Abrams bpj62 Feb 2018 #17
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Mueller has this Guy by the short ones.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:26 PM
Feb 2018

Flynn will be recharged for second time. He and his Kid are going to Leavenworth for sometime.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,498 posts)
4. Flynn was indicted by a single count for lying to the FBI.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:29 PM
Feb 2018

There are numerous other criminal actions he could be charged with, including criminal conspiracy, Logan Act, failing to register as a foreign agent, probably various financial crimes.

He received the single count as part of the plea bargain, so that the sentence would be appropriately light. If the plea falls through, expect Flynn to be hit with a slew of additional charges.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
5. A defendant can withdraw a guilty plea before sentencing if they can show
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:30 PM
Feb 2018

"a fair and just reason," not just because they want to. What would that reason be in Flynn's case? He probably has spilled his guts to Mueller already, but they won't be sentencing him until after May 1, when the report is due. So maybe he's angling for a lighter sentence? Not sure what, if any, leverage he has, other than not making the prosecutors go to trial. Which isn't much.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
6. Sounds like someone's been promised a pardon for his silence.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:32 PM
Feb 2018

I hope there are lots of state level charges and not just federal ones.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
12. If he was promised a pardon there'd be no reason
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:43 PM
Feb 2018

for him to withdraw his guilty plea, because a pardon gets him off the hook only for the penalty; a condition for a pardon is generally held to be an acknowledgment of guilt (unless the person claims to be factually innocent). Since Flynn has pled guilty only to a single count of lying to the FBI, the penalty will probably be fairly light anyhow (maybe a year or two in a minimum security prison). A pardon would mean that he wouldn't have to serve the sentence. If he withdrew the guilty plea and got pardoned before he went to trial or had to serve any time, the result would be the same. I think there has to be another reason.

zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
10. Probably found new charges
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:37 PM
Feb 2018

Usually plea deals insist that you tell the truth, and you tell EVERYTHING that you know/did. Very likely Mueller found out more stuff that Flynn didn't report so he is going to charge him. As such, Flynn would presumably withdraw his guilty plea as part of a larger defense strategy for the upcoming trial.

NewsCenter28

(1,837 posts)
13. Yeah, he probably thought he could get away
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:44 PM
Feb 2018

With just telling something juicy about the transition period and not spill any of the beans on the meat and potatoes treason during the campaign. Busted!

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
14. I'm no legal expert
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:46 PM
Feb 2018

But I would think it would be hard to defend yourself from something you already confessed to doing.

bpj62

(1,067 posts)
17. Dan Abrams
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:07 PM
Feb 2018

Yesterday my news feed which is Google on my phone posted some article from a legal site run by Dan Abrams. The gist of the article was that the Mueller investigation was corrupt and that the evidence against Flynn was illegally obtained through the FISA court. Maybe Flynns Attorney's think that there is compelling evidence that was withheld from Flynn and his defense team. Not an attorney but I am damn sure that Mueller checked those warrants front to back. You do not charge a retired 2 star general with a crime unless you have all your ducks in a row. Let him withdraw his plea and I guarantee you that Michael Flynn Jr. will be doing the perp walk soon. Trumps people are stupid and arrogant and they is a bad mix. Flynn could lose all the privileges of his rank if he withdraws his plea and is subsequently convicted. Innocent people do not plea guilty.

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