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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:15 AM Feb 2018

I hope Mueller is involving Schneiderman in some of these indictments.....

....because Trump is about to the pull the trigger on pardoning Manafort and Gates.


His presidency simply cannot survive if Manafort flips. Trump will risk any blowback from pardoning him.


Manafort flipping is an existential threat to Trump's presidency... so much so, that I believe Trump would resign from office within a month of Manafort flipping.

Manafort knows where all the "bodies are buried".


The pardon pen is being readied for use. Mueller better have a backup plan.

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I hope Mueller is involving Schneiderman in some of these indictments..... (Original Post) scheming daemons Feb 2018 OP
me too gopiscrap Feb 2018 #1
The thing is a pardon does not help Trump. drray23 Feb 2018 #2
If they refuse... they'll just be pardoned for that too. scheming daemons Feb 2018 #8
Take a couple of deep breathes PJMcK Feb 2018 #3
I love how you state this. jrthin Feb 2018 #6
We're pals! (n/t) PJMcK Feb 2018 #7
Perfect! Hahahahaha! Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #9
wink atcha! (n/t) PJMcK Feb 2018 #10
I wonder C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #4
I wonder if El Shaman Feb 2018 #5
You want the oppposite actually Loki Liesmith Feb 2018 #11

drray23

(8,820 posts)
2. The thing is a pardon does not help Trump.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:21 AM
Feb 2018

If he pardons them, then they can be compelled to tell the truth by Mueller and they cant use the fifth amendment since they can't be prosecuted any more. If they refuse, they can be jailed for it.

PJMcK

(25,121 posts)
3. Take a couple of deep breathes
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:21 AM
Feb 2018

Robert Mueller is a professional.

Donald Trump is an idiot.

Do the arithmetic.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
11. You want the oppposite actually
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:42 AM
Feb 2018

These indictments need to be completely bare of state charges so NYAG can charge.

And lo and behold, they are.

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