I've Seen a RW Meme Going Around Pointing Out the US Isnt even in the top 10 for Mass Shootings

[D_Master81]

Now before I begin I will say that I noticed that it's from dailywire, so who knows. But they quote a study done on worldwide mass shootings between the years of 2009-2015 where they measure the "death rate per million. By doing this we come in 11th in the world. Not gonna link to the story, but have seen it shared now 3 times on facebook. So who has a higher death rate than the US: Norway, Serbia, Macedonia, Albania, Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, Czech Republic. They also say there's a 27% higher death rate per mass shooting in Europe than the U.S. Its like you can hear the facts being manipulated to meet the conclusion they wanted to prove.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Kinda depends on how you define "mass shootings"...

Here's one list of just plain ol' shootings, including suicides and accidents. It admits it might be flawed, but I doubt the other one is more accurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

[Sophia4]

2. Please provide a link.

[JDC]

3. Not true. PolitiFact it. We "win" on gun deaths, accidents, mass shootings etc.

This garbage is straight from the CPRC. Here's some info about them/him. Been at it for a while...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/debunking-john-lott-5456e83cf326/amp/

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

9. U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

We're Number One in everything! (Except healthcare, literacy, infant mortality rate, etc.)

[blake2012]

4. I agree with the other poster anyone can say anything

Do you have a link? Much easier to assess the bullshit factor that way.

PS I hope RW isn’t trying to compare us to some of the trouble spots in the world like Thailand rather than comparing us to stable democracies.

[Exotica]

5. Norway gun deaths per 100,000...... 1.75, USA 10.54..... UK 0.23

Guns per 100 people

Norway 31.3
USA 101.1 (this is low, as I have seen the Washington Post estimate 357 million guns plus)
UK 6.6

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. Unless there are real links to data, this is bullshit.

Really shouldn't post bullshit without links to real empirical data. Otherwise, we'd be a Fox-Breitbart kinda site.

[Hortensis]

7. D master, this is easily refuted, and you apparently

knew that going in, so why post this twisted portrayal in detail here?

Under the circumstances, perhaps it's better that you did not provide a link sending DUers to a very dishonest far/extreme-right site.

[Sophia4]

8. Wikipedia says we are at the top of the heap in this category.

United States
Main article: Mass shootings in the United States
Total U.S. deaths by year in spree shootings: 1982 to current (ongoing).[29]

The U.S. has more mass shootings than any other country.[30][31][32][33]

In one study, it has been estimated that 31% of public mass shootings occur in the U.S., although it has only 5% of the world's population.[34] CNN cites a study by criminologist A. Lankford that finds that "there are more public mass shootings in the United States than in any other country in the world".[18] The study concludes that "The United States and other nations with high firearm ownership rates may be particularly susceptible to future public mass shootings, even if they are relatively peaceful or mentally healthy according to other national indicators."[35] Criminologist Gary Kleck criticized Adam's findings stating the study fails to provide evidence that gun ownership increases mass shootings.[36] Mass shootings have also been observed to be followed by an increase in the purchase of weapons, but this phenomenon seems to be driven by a minority since neither gun owners nor non-owners report an increased feeling of needing guns.[37]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting

Maybe conservatives are picking certain years.

But over the long hall, we are number 1.

[Hekate]

10. No other country on the planet not engaged in a WAR on their OWN soil has carnage like ours

Now, doesn't that make you proud?

Our culture has gone nuts.

[angstlessk]

11. Single mass shootings..America has many

The worst in Australia and they BANNED guns not used for hunting animals, banned those used to kill humans, and made sure the guns you purchase are not used to kill your fellow man!

[Squinch]

12. Right wing source, provably false assertion, no link. You're not even trying.

[Demsrule86]

13. Total bullshit...and they pick and choose data to prove their conclusion. We have more gun

deaths than any civilized (and some not so civilized) country. Putin supports the NRA here as a way of causing havoc but guns are banned in Russia.

[Demsrule86]

14. This seems like a post that says ...the right has it wrong about gun deaths but then below you

post something (that someone admits is wrong about the other side) . Just muddying the gun debate waters. You should delete this.

[D_Master81]

15. Fine

I posted a link a long time ago to a RW site and an admin said that was against site rules so I didnt want to get it deleted. I was merely posting the BS thats out there. Go ahead refute it all you want, I'm actually on your side.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27401/democrats-say-america-worst-western-country-mass-hank-berrien

[rgbecker]

16. Wow! That is one serious piece of propaganda.

Suddenly, the authors decide to change the criteria of what a "Mass shooting" is mid report from 4 deaths to 15 in order to get the frequency numbers to prove Obama wrong. I'll look at this closer, but I can tell you these guys make Trump look like a saint.

I have to question exactly what they are trying to prove in showing other countries also have a mass killing problem.....is it all about proving Obama wrong? You know, the black president?

Remind me about the 130+ killed in Paris on Nov, 13th, 2015.

[IronLionZion]

17. Not Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Yemen?

They should put all the war zones.

And then call it mass murder instead and use abortion numbers.

Why bother wasting time on these assholes who are just desperately trying to block sensible reforms to gun laws?

[Wounded Bear]

18. Death rate is the same everywhere...

one per person.

Another RW meme you might want to use.

[Stinky The Clown]

19. Thanks for sharing

[Kentonio]

20. Thanks for the heads up

It’s useful to have advance warning of the latest right wing lies so we can have the data ready to immediately refute them.

I have no idea why some people seem to be attacking you for this.