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Eugene

(61,938 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:58 PM Jul 2012

Cuban president Raśl Castro willing to hold no-limits talks with America

Source: Associated Press

Cuban president Raul Castro willing to hold no-limits talks with America

Associated Press in Havana
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 July 2012 23.31 BST

Cuban president Raúl Castro said on Thursday that his government was willing to mend fences with its bitter cold war foe, the United States.

At the end of a Revolution Day ceremony marking the 59th anniversary of an uprising against dictator Fulgencio Batista's regime, Castro grabbed the microphone and made apparently impromptu remarks. He said no topic was off limits, including US concerns about democracy, freedom of the press and human rights on the island, as long as it was a conversation between equals.

Washington would have to be prepared to hear Cuba's own complaints about those issues in the United States and Europe, he added. "We are nobody's colony, nobody's puppet," Castro said. "Any day they want, the table is set. This has already been said through diplomatic channels. If they want to talk, we will talk."

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Mike Hammer, assistant secretary for public affairs at the US state department, responded by saying that before any meaningful engagement, Cuba must institute democratic reforms, improve human rights and release Alan Gross, a Maryland native serving 15 years in prison for bringing satellite and other communications equipment into Cuba illegally while on a USAid-funded democracy-building programme.

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Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/26/cuba-president-raul-castro-talks-with-america
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Cuban president Raśl Castro willing to hold no-limits talks with America (Original Post) Eugene Jul 2012 OP
This has been the case since 1959. No news here. Mika Jul 2012 #1
I really wonder what the odds of one person being elected so many time to lead a country are. And RB TexLa Jul 2012 #2
The Castro brothers don't rule nor lead Cuba. Mika Jul 2012 #3
I hastened to save your link, discovered I saved it when you posted it! Judi Lynn Jul 2012 #4
Thanks. Its too bad the usual disinfo artists show up to forum slide. Mika Jul 2012 #5
The Cuban people do? OMG That is funny! RB TexLa Jul 2012 #6
It is funny. Funny that I've lived there and have family there. Mika Jul 2012 #7
No, I think the 99% of the vote Raul and Fidel both got in their districts speaks for itself RB TexLa Jul 2012 #8
Links please. Mika Jul 2012 #9
You need a link to prove that Fidel Castro held a seat in the government and won elections RB TexLa Jul 2012 #10
You do know that the Cuban system changed to a parliamentary system in 1976, don't you? Mika Jul 2012 #13
Yes, I know that. The elections of 2008 were the elections I was referring to. RB TexLa Jul 2012 #14
Further proof that you don't know what is going on in Cuba. Mika Jul 2012 #15
Please enlighten me, who all are the leading candidates for the next elections? RB TexLa Jul 2012 #16
You do realize the OP was not about whether Cuba is a democracy or not, right? 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #11
I think his timing is off due to elections, but his intentions are sincere flamingdem Jul 2012 #12
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
1. This has been the case since 1959. No news here.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:23 PM
Jul 2012

As long as there's US campaign contributions to be made off of the standoff - for both sides of the issue (a strange mix of R's and D's)- then it will CONtinue.



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RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
2. I really wonder what the odds of one person being elected so many time to lead a country are. And
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:27 PM
Jul 2012

then to have his brother win election right after him. The odds of that happening in a free democracy must be something.
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
3. The Castro brothers don't rule nor lead Cuba.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jul 2012

The Cuban people do.
To entertain another idea is an insult to the good people of Cuba.
Take a look ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x31936



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Judi Lynn

(160,598 posts)
4. I hastened to save your link, discovered I saved it when you posted it!
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jul 2012

Thanks for putting the information there for people who've only listened to dictated corporate "news" on Cuba.

So many others take the time to start looking for the real answers themselves. They will appreciate how much you have laid out for us to consider.

It takes personal effort to get to the truth, and a need to not swallow slick yarns from the oligarchy. Eventually everyone will have a clue, Mika. Everyone with a functioning brain, that is.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
6. The Cuban people do? OMG That is funny!
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 06:17 PM
Jul 2012

It's even funnier that you believe it. You see so many people drowning in boats that have left Miami to get to the freedom of Cuba.
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
7. It is funny. Funny that I've lived there and have family there.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jul 2012

Can hardly wait for you to post the usual AI, HRW, RsF, Wiki links (most all of them are Cubanet/USAID/Scaife/Diaz-Balart paid-for "reports" from professional "dissidents&quot ...

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
8. No, I think the 99% of the vote Raul and Fidel both got in their districts speaks for itself
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 07:00 PM
Jul 2012

That's realistic. Anyone who has served 30 and 40 years in a democratically elected government post can tell you that happens all the time in elections.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
9. Links please.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 08:37 PM
Jul 2012

Please support your 99% claims as well as your "30 and 40" years claims.
Thanks.


 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
10. You need a link to prove that Fidel Castro held a seat in the government and won elections
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jul 2012

since 1959? I'll let you figure that out for yourself. Thanks.
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
13. You do know that the Cuban system changed to a parliamentary system in 1976, don't you?
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:41 PM
Jul 2012
http://library.thinkquest.org/18355/osvaldo_dorticos.html

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Osvaldo Dorticós served as the first President of Cuba after the Revolution of 1959. He was born in 1919.
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During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Cuba was threatened by an American invasion. As a result, the Soviets had installed nuclear weapons, but kept the program secret. While giving a speech at the UN, Dorticós announced that Cuba now had weapons which "it had not wanted and hoped it would not have to use."

Dorticós remained President of Cuba until 1976, when Prime Minister Castro took over the job. Dorticós died in 1983.



Do yourself a favor ... you need to educate yourself a little before making uninformed commentary. No offense intended, but your posts are rather foolish and are lacking basic knowledge of Cuba.

Cheers.


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RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
14. Yes, I know that. The elections of 2008 were the elections I was referring to.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:04 AM
Jul 2012

I said that Fidel held an elected seat in the government, he still does. I understand I didn't give a link for that, I really thought it was common knowledge.
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
15. Further proof that you don't know what is going on in Cuba.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:41 PM
Jul 2012

My prior comments, about your lacking correct information about Cuba, stand.
Take care.
Bye.


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flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
12. I think his timing is off due to elections, but his intentions are sincere
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jul 2012

He looks at our country and how much we ultimately share, our shared history, how many US Citizens want to treat Cuba in a neighborly way, he looks at all that and can't understand why we can't work something out.

He knows, but now he's reaching out from the heart. In my opinion.

Part of the problem is the cultural divide, they really don't get why they receive so much disrespect, sometimes it's just clutzy behavior from our politicians. Then there's the arrogance. Don't try that with Cuba ..

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