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*** Gates must have given testimony to SINK Shitler *** (Original Post) fleur-de-lisa Feb 2018 OP
Dismissed without prejudice gratuitous Feb 2018 #1
Why so fast?? awesomerwb1 Feb 2018 #2
Yes jberryhill Feb 2018 #3
I cilla4progress Feb 2018 #4
And Mueller still holds the Ace in the Hole Grammy23 Feb 2018 #6
Seems to be some disagreement on what this means. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #5
PSYCHED!!! cilla4progress Feb 2018 #7
Not a lawyer, but. . . matt819 Feb 2018 #8
Do not forget what the Schiff memo says, and how it destroys the Nunes fake memo: Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #9
I think that is SOP for a plea bargain. nycbos Feb 2018 #10

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Dismissed without prejudice
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 12:18 PM
Feb 2018

Which means they can re-file the charges against Gates if he doesn't keep up his end of the plea deal. Sing child, sing.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Yes
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 12:22 PM
Feb 2018

There's nothing unusual or "fast" here. Quite obviously, Gates pleaded guilty to 8 counts, in exchange for the others being dropped.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
6. And Mueller still holds the Ace in the Hole
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 12:30 PM
Feb 2018

If Gates backslides in any of his part of the deal, all bets are off. The charges can be in his face again. Pronto!

I suppose we are all eager to find out what (or who) he gave up to Mueller. Guess we’ll have to wait and see, but it sure helps explain tRump’s little hissy tweet this morning.

cilla4progress

(24,783 posts)
7. PSYCHED!!!
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 12:36 PM
Feb 2018

Everything we know to be true and right is coming together.

Just muse on that and enjoy for a little bit, before back to the battle!

matt819

(10,749 posts)
8. Not a lawyer, but. . .
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 12:43 PM
Feb 2018

I have to agree with others (also non-lawyers, I gather) who conclude that this is a reward for the guilty plea. Mueller is a consummate pro. The charges and then the dismissal of the charges were not "let's see what happens" or "whoops" moments. I would put money on the likelihood that he announcement of the charges and the dismissal of those charges is choreography designed to rattle Manafort, the co-conspirators trump, trump kids, kushner, their lawyers, and more.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Do not forget what the Schiff memo says, and how it destroys the Nunes fake memo:
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:25 PM
Feb 2018

The Schiff memo claims the FBI had “multiple,” “independent” sources to “support the case for surveilling PAGE,” and made only “narrow use” of Steele’s dossier, much of which it found “credible.”

Justice officials TOLD the FISA court that Steele’s inquiry was funded by Democrats, Nunes memo lies about that, and that he may have been biased against candidate Trump. But the FISA court issued the first warrant based on all this AND much more OTHER information gathered BEFORE FBI sought Page warrant.

Justice officials also told the court that it had ended its relationship with Steele because he had shared his information with reporters. “FBI and DOJ officials did not ‘abuse’ the FISA process, omit material information, or subvert this vital tool to spy on the Trump campaign,” the memo asserts.

So this dismissal is a tidying up of the plea bargain, nothing more.

It is a good thing.

nycbos

(6,039 posts)
10. I think that is SOP for a plea bargain.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 01:40 PM
Feb 2018

You plead guilty to some chargers in exchange for others being dropped.

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