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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTump is much stupider than anyone thinks...Hope Hicks an example
For whatever reasons Hope Hicks was some kind of support for Trump. That is what has been said, and I accept that. He relied on her. No matter what we say about Trump, we all agree that being President of the United States is a very tough job...Tremendous responsibility, power, etc..
So, Hicks testifies to Congress, and has difficulty telling the truth. After an obvious struggle, she comes up with some sort of compromise in her mind about telling the truth. Tough job in the Trump administration, but she found a way to do that. So, she tells the truth. What does Trump do? He calls her "stupid" for telling the truth.
Here is a person who helps you to do one of the most difficult jobs in the world, an advisor, and he puts her down for telling the truth to Congress. She is supposed to tell the truth, and took an oath to do so. So he puts her down for doing so. He couldn't keep his mouth shut to someone who he relied on for help to do a difficult job. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut. That is all, and he couldn't do it. Trump had to put her down, and call her "stupid" for struggling and working out a way to "tell the truth."
This says more about Trump than anyone can imagine. He didn't support her for her struggle. He didn't realize how important that issue was/is to her. He put her down. That is who Trump is.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Hope Hicks might have finally had enough. There have been various stories that Trump berated her many times.
More importantly, her lawyer probably informed her of her deep legal jeopardy. The longer she stays, the more difficult her circumstances will be. But it's probably too late.
Like everyone who gets into Trump's orbit, Ms. Hicks is in for some big troubles.
louis c
(8,652 posts)loyalty is a two way street.
Trump believes in fealty. That's the word that defines "one way loyalty".
It's the relationship that a servant has to a master or a peasant has to a king.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)what it was like out here.
Congress (and maybe her family) slapped her upside the head and showed her real life and just how serious it is.
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)And now, so does Muehler.
"Dear Diary, today donnie had me escort russian politicians to his dining room for a private meeting. He had me sit in ....".
or
"Dear Diary, when will Donnie learn to use email? I have to do everything for him, and translating putins emails about loan guarantees isn't easy!"
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)tRump is a malignant narcissist. He is incapable of comforting anyone or having any kind of social interaction that isn't center on himself.
That is why he is so very dangerous, and more-so now. As people who have buttressed him and propped him up are peeled away he will lash out and become even more erratic. He is a clear and present danger to the Republic.
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)All his advisors on this subject urged him not to do this, so he did it anyway.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but it's highly unlikely that she left because he got in a snit. My best guess is that they both realized how much trouble she was in, that she would have to testify about what she continued to witness in the WH, not just the past, and that both agreed she needed to get out.
Here's a NYMag article. It's notably friendly to Hicks, and I'm not buying a picture of a sweet, loyal Labrador (who could somehow coexist pristinely for years with a pack of wild, vermin-infested hyenas). But this journal has a lot of good connections in NY society and is one of the ones to check for insights into "family," which everyone says Hicks had mostly become. It suggests she stayed because she felt he needed her, and over the past two tumultuous days most talking heads seem to be agreeing that she did play an important role in stabilizing the WH.
On Wednesday, the New York Times broke the news that Hicks will be resigning as the White House communications director, the 13th prominent White House official to leave during the first 13 months of the administration. But Hicks is unlike the other 12; a figure of such singular importance to the president that two sources close to him speculated separately to New York that she may outrank Ivanka, his own daughter.
Life at Trumps side was always complicated for Hicks, but her decision came at an unusually riotous time, after the Russia investigations coaxed her into view throughout the fall and winter, and the destruction of her new relationship collided with the countrys national security in the most public way, inviting questions about her personal and professional judgement. A silly tabloid story about Hicks dating another member of the White House staff, Rob Porter, quickly transformed into a serious tabloid story about allegations of physical abuse against Porter from both of his ex-wives. ...
In her suddenly weakened position, Hicks became a target of the very sort of palace intrigue she had worked to float above even as it violently submerged everyone around her on the campaign and in the White House. ...
In the investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the House and Senate Intelligence Committees ... she is of acute interest: The special counsel interviewed her in December and she recently appeared in front of the Senate Intel Committee. Hickss resignation directly followed eight hours of testimony on Tuesday before the House Intel Committee, where she said she sometimes told white lies on behalf of Trump, an admission that made worldwide news. It also followed the resignation of Josh Raffel a spokesperson for Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner whom Hicks considers her best friend.
And why would Hicks stay in a place where she didnt know who she could trust for so long? Once youre in, youre in, the source said shortly before Hickss resignation, I think thats the way she looks at it. I think he depends on her so much that she views it like it would be abandoning the cause not even abandoning the cause, I think its abandoning him. But after years of sacrificing her needs in order to give to someone else, Hicks began to feel consumed by her loneliness and existential questions about her priorities in life.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/hope-hicks-didnt-break-overnight.html
I do find credible the notion that Hicks may have had new lonely, existential concerns borne in on her by those 8 hours of being unable to tell the truth.
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)Trump acts out without thinking. Calling a trusted advisor a name is wrong. People in crisis do not need to be called names by others. Especially by the cause of the problem.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)But in this case central to a planet swinging wildly on its axis, so what? What matters is that a stabilizing influence who was in the middle of massive corruption and possible treason left, and why.
And the notion that she left because it was finally her turn, after standing by many, many times over the years while he viciously abused and humiliated many others, requires distilling complex and fascinating relationships into a picture that focuses on one extremely limited and relatively unimportant issue. Being yelled at would not trump conspiring in treasonous activities.
Of real import now, her most recognized and observed role seems to have been to help protect everyone as much as she was able by keeping the WH's trumpster fires from flaring out of control.
Anyone care that Trump might attack NK, even use our nuclear bombs, to boost his ratings with his base? Some are just a tad more worried about that than some presumed insult to Hicks's personal dignity.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)"I am all that matters, " says Trump.
Nuff said.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)and I think she did still lie under oath.
I think she just told her version of the truth.
the white house is occupied by sociopaths and psychopaths.
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)and maybe for obstruction, depending on how you read corello's statements.
She is pleading. That's why she pulled a Bannon (who is also pleading).
Look for one count of perjury. And a whole lot of testimony, including explaining her diary entries.
She know every meeting the crook has held,
Javaman
(62,530 posts)tune in tomorrow for the next sordid episode of "how the white house turns".
getagrip_already
(14,750 posts)Only he didn't realize someone else got to make changes to the script.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)GWC58
(2,678 posts)It doesnt matter the lies color; a lie is a lie is a lie.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)(But your point stands.)
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)I had heard speculation that she might become the fourth wife.
I deliberately phrased the question that way to denote the immense LACK of respect that I have for Trump and Hicks.
PEACE!
brush
(53,778 posts)first, then Porter so that was probably never true.
I mean would either of those douches dare to move in on the supreme douche's squeeze?
Nah, and with all the hair meds he's taking, even the blue pills won't work for him so that was probably never a thing.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...Trump let them know that they could have his cast offs.
In addition to the hair meds, I wonder if Melania slips a little something into the Dotard's diet coke to insure he'll be pushing rope or, as is likely in Trump's case, twine!
PEACE!
Chakaconcarne
(2,452 posts)...and I have seen lots of them joking and smiling with/around her....
they liked her...
and they've seen what he has done to her....
...and now he's going after his own family.....
He, in short order, will have nothing left.
He is cursed....by his own doing.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)he does not know any other way to behave..he's an abusive boss
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Saviolo
(3,282 posts)He thinks that Hope telling the truth was weakness on her part, because telling the truth is stupid and weak.
It will be his downfall. He thinks that he's too smart to get caught telling a lie because he's just the best. He's tremendous. He can lie and no one has any reason to question him. He's the president, anything he says is the truth by fiat.
It's going to be tough when he ends up in front of Mueller and starts lying his face off. He can't help himself. He could have a team of lawyers coaching him in real time, and they wouldn't be able to stop him from just saying whatever he thinks will help him the most.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Never back down, never admit fault, never admit to lying.
Eventually, it stops working. It stopped working for Cohn.
gopiscrap
(23,760 posts)could vote for this crook
Me.
(35,454 posts)But criminal smart
tblue37
(65,357 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)This was a joke from the beginning. Hicks was a Sugar Baby.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Cha
(297,223 posts)Keep his mouth shut.
Of course, that's who he is.. from the get go.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)SHE IS *NOT* A VICTIM
womanofthehills
(8,706 posts)Like a narcissist - me, me, me.............
hatrack
(59,587 posts)That's it. Beyond those "values" he is a shrieking void poorly wrapped in skin.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)nothing and nobody but trump will ever matter in his sick mind.
https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump-Psychiatrists/dp/1250179459/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520083637&sr=8-1&keywords=the+dangerous+case+of+donald+trump
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