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kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
3. The people of Florida have to decide what kind of state they want to live in
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 04:11 PM
Mar 2018

It’s obvious that the GOP in Florida don’t care about the people but the NRA and campaign donors.

Ever since they passed these and your ground law I vowed to never set foot In that state. My son wants to go to Disneyworld again someday but I told him he’s going to have to settle on Disneyland. I wouldn’t even book a cruise that left there or ended up at. Florida will not get a dime of my money until they repeal those crazy gun humper laws.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
6. So, is the White Nationalist teacher going to be armed now? Yep, you know they are. -eom
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 04:31 PM
Mar 2018

Igel

(37,535 posts)
9. Depends on all the details.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 05:33 PM
Mar 2018

Nobody likes details. They're annoying and subject to verification.

I live in a state in which teachers can be armed, so let's see how the details matter.

A district or two allows it, out of hundreds of districts in one of the largest states in the Union, but many cops wouldn't qualify to teach and conceal carry on campus in those districts given the additional requirements imposed on teachers. And yet in those districts, some, no doubt, carry. The district won't say who or how many because they think the uncertainty is important; I have to assume that the district has a dress code that includes jackets for men and more formal clothes for women that often includes a jacket or sweater of some kind. I've seen people try to do the concealed carry "thing" while wearing just jeans and a t-shirt, and it requires a really strained definition of 'concealed'.

At the same time, I'm not aware of ever having met a teacher whose district allowed concealed carry on campus. "Permitted" doesn't mean "required" by any stretch of the imagination--note that in Florida concealed carry is permitted under certain conditions, but it's hardly the case that every adult over the age of 21 is required to undergo training and get a CWP and then actually bear arms. Obviously "permitted" v "required" is not a trivial distinction, so it's not like I'm splitting hairs here.

At least in Texas districts have the final say on whether concealed carry is "permitted". None of the surrounding districts near me permit it. Even if the teacher has a CWP and a million hours of advanced training in safety and shooting and the state of the art everything to enable safe handling and shooting, it's just not allowed. Even to have the gun in its holster, locked in a box in the trunk of a car, unloaded and with no ammo, on a Sunday brings the word "felony" to mind.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
7. There isnt a chance in hell I would teach there. Expect a mass exodus from their
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 04:34 PM
Mar 2018

Public schools. This is insane.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. I have a feeling that most of these so called "law-makers" are about to be voted
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 05:36 PM
Mar 2018

out of a job. Talk about tone deaf.

Blecht

(3,806 posts)
11. Fucking morons
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 05:39 PM
Mar 2018

My condolences to the non-morons living in Florida.

Get out the vote, people! Fix this mess by voting out Republicans!

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
12. An AWB in FL was a nonstarter. And no one will likely lose their seat.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 06:01 PM
Mar 2018


FL politics are polarized and guns are identity politics. It's not like CT after Sandy Hook.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
14. I just left a comment on the website of the Florida Board of Tourism.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 06:09 PM
Mar 2018

Telling them I'm not going to visit as long as this kind of thing is going on in their legislature.

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