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Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:24 PM

 

Which candidate brings the whole package....

...health care for all, abortion rights, gun legislation, strengthening SS and Medicare, build infrastructure, social reforms, mental health strengthening, gay rights, aims to calm rather than aggravate negative international chatter, Constitutional knowledge, legislative experience, works for unity, brings a sense of honor, class, statesmanship, and decency to the Whitehouse?

I know there are may more values we could be looking for. Missing any one or a few isn't a deal breaker for me, but I certainly will be looking to see who embodies everything Trump is not.

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Response to BoneyardDem (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:25 PM

1. Oh, sorry. I thought this was another Stormy Daniels thread at first. Carry on.

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Response to BoneyardDem (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:26 PM

2. Many will disagree,but I think Biden

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Response to dameatball (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:33 PM

4. 2 of my favorites combos are Brown of Ohio with Cantwell of Washington or

Merkley of Oregon with Duckworth of Illinois. I'd also love Whitehouse and Baldwin.

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Response to OregonBlue (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:18 PM

9. I can support that. I was factoring in name recognition which was included.

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Response to dameatball (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:10 PM

8. Yup,

Biden.

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Response to BoneyardDem (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:27 PM

3. Maxine Waters? nt.

 

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Response to BoneyardDem (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:09 PM

5. TAMMY DUCKWORTH!!!

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Response to BoneyardDem (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:29 PM

6. I hear this sort of thing all the time...how about Congress? One person can do nothing without

Congress. I will vote for the person who believes what I believe of course...but I will also consider electability.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:53 PM

11. Absolutely.

 

I believe the person I mentioned possess all mentioned. I highly doubt she would be my choice in the primaries.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:24 PM

13. Sometimes...it is about your gut...and the primary is the place you choose...and then comes the

general... and you vote for the candidate with the "D" next to his/her name. I don't disagree with anything you said.

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Response to BoneyardDem (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:41 PM

7. Kamala Harris has all that and a great deal of strength and charisma. And no scandals.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:06 PM

12. I like her.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:25 PM

14. I like her. She faced some attacks early on...my take is anyone who runs will be attacked by those

who only want one candidate...and will attack those they perceive as a threat.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:34 PM

15. Yeah- I saw one attack accusing her of quid pro quo and the timeline was totally wrong....

 

And another casting shade w her friendship w a male politician. Like women can’t be friends w men? Both came from the same sort of people, those who think she is only an “identity” instead of an accomplished and inspiring person.

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Response to BoneyardDem (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:50 PM

10. Well, Hillary and Obama, of course, but he can't run again.

Actually, Boneyard Dem, all our good, experienced Democrats have the general package you're looking for. Let's face it, no one quite as outstanding in ideology, experience and preparation as Hillary, 2016's 800-pound gorilla, is out there. But we can run any of a number of good men, and perhaps a lot of the hate and misogyny unleashed on her will have OD'd the weaker Dems who were influenced, paving the way for another woman.

Obama thinks well of Biden, suggesting he's developed beyond his squishy, too trusting 1990s days. He has those warm Uncle Joe fuzzies that a traumatized nation might welcome. He'd hit 80 in his first term, though, and although I wouldn't run him out definitively for age alone, he is specifically undesirably old. At some point, though, we will have our first president in his 80s.

Kamala Harris: The package but not male. She is very strong, a former state prosecutor and AG with strong progressive and social liberal creds. I like her.

Sherrod Brown: The package. It's going to sound frivolous, but voters are frivolous: His voice is weak. Martin O'Malley came off weak on a stage; it killed a good candidacy.

Martin O'Malley: The package. Has he learned to own a stage yet?

Corey Booker: The package mostly, but as a senator in an almost dead-in-water Democratic caucus, he's had no chance to produce and make a name for himself. He has been intensively attacked by the right, lots of lying propaganda out there, so they're worried he'll run.

Joe Kennedy III: Far less of a resume than Booker, but, hey, he was born on home plate with a name, romantics swoon over him, and he'd presumably be able to gather power blocs behind him. That swooning caught my attention. Everything else is worthless in someone who's not elected.

Elizabeth Warren: I just don't think she'll run.

I'm waiting for candidates to present. I know the list of choices will be missing most of these and include others. There's a lot of quiet anger in the party over 2016, and I don't expect that anyone who is not proud to be a Democrat, of our heritage and values, will be allowed to run as a Democrat. Would that experiment, even with broken commitments, not been a disaster for the party without the Russians, justifying it in spite of everything? Probably; it traded a 2016 possible third party Nader-type disaster for internal dissension, but feelings are bitter.

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