We won a huge race and there is an immediate increase in attacks on Democrats and even DU members.

[NCTraveler]

It’s extremely transparent.

Keep up the good fight. Don’t be distracted. So much of the pessimistic mindset is transitioning to optimism. Don’t let these ratfuckers dilute your optimism.

If they are providing cover for Republicans, recognize it and move on. If they have Clinton Derangement Syndrome, move on. If they call you a racist for simply criticizing an African American, move on. If they attack progressive leadership using empty slogans void of thought, move on.

They are transparent, just as almost every single poster here is a transparent progressive. Don’t let the few acting in bad faith do anything to your optimism.

The increase in ratfucking since yesterday morning is clear. Recognize it and them. Your minds are too beautiful to waste.

[lunatica]

1. Its good to be reminded

And watch out for the hair on fire 🔥 ones too.

[Hortensis]

77. Who could miss fires exploding here and from the right

at the very same time? So disgusting and contemptibly obvious.

If only their hair really DID catch on fire. Teach some restraint if not honor or wisdom.

[Achilleaze]

2. .

[Cha]

3. "If they call you a racist for simply criticizing an African American"

That was weird!

[Lochloosa]

6. Kind of sad they removed it. No telling where that one would have gone.

[Cha]

9. I had to go back and look.. it went plenty far..

It really had no place here.. it was an absurd premise, imv.

[RhodeIslandOne]

64. Was this the "Isn't racist to attack Ben Carson" thread?

Or is that still floating around the bowl?

[Lochloosa]

65. That was the one.

[Cha]

69. Yeah.. I couldn't believe it.. damn ben carson

one of the mole's picks to ruin the agency where he was appointed.

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. I was preoccupied with my MATH lessons. What did I miss?

[Demsrule86]

4. This is an awesome post and so well expressed. Thanks!

[Kingofalldems]

5. Also if they attack the students who demonstrated yesterday.

[stonecutter357]

7. russian / RWNJ's trolls are everywhere on DU the last few days .

[Zoonart]

8. Yep.

Keep Calm and Continue Voting.

[appalachiablue]

74. That's a Gem, gonna co-opt it. *KEEP CALM AND CONTINUE VOTING*!

Blue Wave Time, then Maintain the Blue..Forward!

[DownriverDem]

17. Just tell them

to get bent and go to a RWNJ site.

[betsuni]

10. Yes!

[Eyeball_Kid]

11. Feed 'em Fish!

[mcar]

12. This!

[malaise]

13. Some of the bots/dividers/whatever started before the votes were counted

Expect an uptick in jury duty

[justhanginon]

14. Thank you. That really needed to be said.

[Glorfindel]

15. Thank you! I wondered if it was just me noticing these "oddities"

"I'm glad we won, but..."
"I have a concern about..."

And on and on. Your post is a much-need breath of fresh air, NCTraveler!

[DownriverDem]

16. There's more of us

We all know repubs play dirty. They are doing all they can to keep power. We must vote in huge numbers for the Dems in November. We don't have time for purity divisive crap. The seriousness of the next election must be front and center.

[Salviati]

18. The plan:

Stay engaged
Stay angry at republicans
Don't get diverted by petty distractions
VOTE

[bronxiteforever]

19. Thank you-k & r

[Politicub]

20. Lots of new account with 40 or so posts

More than I have seen in a long time.

For the newbies here to support dems and engage in conversation, welcome!

To the trolls, you will be unmasked soon enough. Enjoy your time here. You may just learn something.

[FakeNoose]

21. I think the trolls build up their posting numbers

... by giving "safe" replies on old threads that nobody is paying attention to. It still counts towards their number of posts. They jump in and start trolling when their number is up over 100 or so. I can't point to specifics because I don't know any, but occasionally I see a response on something I posted over a month ago. Doesn't seem to be pertinent either, just chiming in on a different topic. Makes me wonder...

Also it makes we wonder how some DU members have only a few posts and nothing in their journal, but they've been a member since 2004? Huh? Is there a way to fake your start date or does the members' archive have incorrect dates? It doesn't mean the person is a troll, but it sure looks suspicious.

[Politicub]

25. Lots of new names, too

Which is great, if new posters are here to engage. I don't call people out for number of posts. And I don't engage with obvious trolling.

The thing with the Russia investigation is that it opened a lot of people's eyes to the degree that trolls infiltrate social media and message boards. It was happening on DU during the primaries, and drove many of us long time posters away for that awful period. I do believe there was a large population of people legitimately for and against Bernie and Hillary. But the infighting did none of us any good.

DU becomes pleasant again until a primary. Then the trolls start to come out before and after to try and dust up tired arguments or spread misinformation. It is so transparent. I guess it is because they go to the same training classes.

Now we are smarter about it. The new jury system works better than the old one. And DU has been the best it has been in a long time.

I hope the GOP keeps lying to itself, too. Who cares if they're spreading the narrative amongst themselves that Lamb was a crypto republican. He clearly isn't. But if that's what they want to believe, then they can "carry on, governor." Maybe it will earn more dem votes because Trump must speak to them in code -- he bashes the crypto republican before the primary and then says he was a republican all along. It makes no sense, but common sense isn't a virtue in the GOP.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

44. I don't know how many of us have been here since whenever,

I joined in 2003. But my post count is not that high for such a length of time and I don't think I've anything in my journal either.

[hobby10113]

46. Same here

I post once in a blue moon when something catches my eye or I feel passionate about. Most of the time I just lurk. I know I never have posted a journal.

[GoneOffShore]

78. I've been here for awhile, but I keep my head down.

Too many things going on in my life to spend 24/7 on DU. Though I wish I could.
I also get too emotional and don't research enough. Tough to live up to some of the really smart poster's here.

[Demsrule86]

62. One poster I had on ignore ...when I went to take him off...I did this after we moved on away from

post mortem...I realized ...his last post was the day before the election...he has been here a while and very few posts too all bashing Democrats...Bet he will be back soon.

[Farmer-Rick]

82. Well in my case, I signed up back in 2012 but was otherwise occupied

Just didn't have any time to post, just lurked. Now I have over 600 posts.

But I'm older and have some time, I wanted to get active on a liberal site. Then I realized, I had signed up all those many years ago.

But there are some real old timers here who do take a rather right wing view of things. I often wonder about them then remember my situation.

[scarytomcat]

22. please don't judge on number of posts

I have been coming to this site since it began nearly 20 years ago but I rarely posted. I left after the hack on election night and have recently signed up again. I still rarely post under my new name. I never stopped reading here, people that post here are much smarter and can say things better than me so I let them teach and inform me.

[Politicub]

24. Welcome

I'll do what I please, but thank you for the advice.

[scarytomcat]

26. I don't need welcoming

I said I am not new
few have been coming here longer than me

[Chakaconcarne]

32. Same here

Visit this site multiple times per day for god knows how long.... probably as long as this site has existed. I don't have a gazillion posts and I don't keep a journal or whatever... I NEVER go to discussion forums.. just come here for news updates.

Judge me by my posts... If you don't like what I say, call me on it... Soon enough you'll know where my heart is.

I will be calling others out for what appears to be attacks on Hillary OR Bernie... There's no place for that at DU IMO.

[annabanana]

33. As yr ID 344084 attests...

You ARE an uber-lurker

[panader0]

43. Where do you find the ID #?

[progree]

47. Click on the user, and then on his/her Profile button

Here is scarytomcat ' s

https://www.democraticunderground.com/~scarytomcat

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=344084

I had not heard of this until today.

[Tarc]

54. I'm 126519, what do I win?

I want a pony!

[annabanana]

57. hover over the "profile" icon next to your name in a post..

The ID number will appear in a small window at the lower left of your screen..(the last number in the line)

[scarytomcat]

66. yes that is true but that number does not tell when I first signed up

here. I am not a bot or Troll (but maybe The Troll)
I was one of the first
I think I heard about this place on the Thom Hartmann show in 1997 or 8.

[annabanana]

68. Well, the profiles themselves are explicit. .. . . n/t

[33taw]

23. Do new accounts go through a verification process on DU?

[jberryhill]

27. Yup

The increase in numbers may simply be part of the tsunami that is building.

No doubt there are also some well-meaning people who may have some issues adjusting to the odd culture here.

But.... yup.

[ChazInAz]

50. Odd culture?

Home and haven to me!

[Saboburns]

29. Yes. Ever since DU went dark on Election Day the vibe here changed.

I notice it daily.

There are too many attacks on Democrats and on DU members.

[marybourg]

30. Attacks on DU members,

rather than on an idea, should be called out by other DU members and even alerted on. Otherwise it appears to be part of the culture here.

[SCantiGOP]

34. If you are opposed to DU member attacks

It might help not to throw out the phrase “Clinton Derangement Syndrome” in the OP.

[marybourg]

48. I'm not the OP, but

CDS isn't a personal attack, but an attack on an idea. A personal attack is when the poster shifts the argument to "you".

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. CDP is real and a BIG problem. Now the damage has been DONE of course to her

the question is how many so inclined to relentlessly attack her TO THIS DAY will transfer those attacks to our next candidate?

[FakeNoose]

41. I see a general lack of manners everywhere on blogs

Seriously I don't think DU is any different in that regard. Maybe the word I should use is "tact" but you get my meaning.

Most of us have never met face-to-face but we should treat DU members with the same courtesy as our daily contacts. Doesn't that seem like the right behavior? If we can't be courteous then we shouldn't be on DU.

Maybe there needs to be tutorial to introduce this concept to new members. Unfortunately some people make attempts at humor that fall flat, or it's misunderstood. Sometimes people sound hostile, but they don't realize that's how they sound. I'm guessing that posting courtesy is not a thing that's taught or mentioned on other blogs.

[sheshe2]

31. Yes.

Now everyone GOTV!

[KPN]

35. Great observation and post. It did seem

especially divisive yesterday. Thanks for the heads up!

[DFW]

36. But this time we expected it

Or should have. Republicans don't like being told a tight race is looking like a close defeat, tossing ten million dollars and an appearance by a sitting Republican president, and then STILL losing (for trolling Republicans, that's English for your word "loosing" ).

[ananda]

37. I am a transparent LIBERAL!

To me, progressive means Reep lite, somebody
who would be a moderate Reep if they could
but can't.

[NCTraveler]

40. Cool. Im Reep lite

Whatever that means.

[PDittie]

83. Fascinating

and diametrically opposed to every dictionary definition of the word I have ever read.

[IronLionZion]

38. Some DUers are concerned we're winning too much, and our candidates aren't providing free unicorns

that has been going on since the beginning of the site. Some DUers like to lose and saw some derived a perverted pleasure from our electoral shellacking in 2010 that saw a lot of red state moderates replaced by tea party extremists. The purity purge crowd is easily trolled by Russians and RWers and others who like to divide us against each other.

Conor Lamb won a district that didn't even have a Dem running for that seat in recent elections. Dems had major upset victories in Virginia and Alabama recently. That concerns a certain type of person. It shouldn't bother us Democrats. We should be motivated and united on this.

[PDittie]

84. ?

"Winning too much"?

"like to lose"?

"derive a perverted pleasure"?

These are strange, non-specific ad hominems directed at a nebulous group of individuals on this forum.

I realize you can't be more specific about "some DUers" without possibly getting alerted, but ...

Maybe think about what this post itself contributes to DU decorum?

[IronLionZion]

85. Some Dems want us to expand our map and compete in more regions and local elections

others want to shrink our map down to a few liberal bubbles like Brooklyn and San Francisco. I was accused of being a Trump supporter earlier this week. DUers by our nature are "a nebulous group of individuals on this forum".

My point is that the people here who:
don't want us to win
want us to lose
cheer when Dems lose
have mostly negative things to say about any Dem politician and little or no positive things to say

might not be who they say they are. Some of them might just need some anti-depressents, maybe some confidence building workshops, or something. But others are definitely trolling us. I stay within DU rules and use the alert system instead of calling out individual members.

[Wounded Bear]

39. I'm hearing some "Lamb ran as a stealth Repub" bullshit on the news this morning...

He may be a bit conservative compared to some, but I don't doubt that he is a Dem.

The RW is trying to justify shit that ain't true to bolster their base. From what I hear, Lamb ran a pretty good campaign, that followed a lot of good basic principles in visiting people on the street and running on local issues.

We definitely need to maintain focus and keep the eye on the prize.

[2left4u]

59. Such Crap

They are trying everything to spin it in their favor.

Go to the real rightwing sites and those guys are saying that they are going to lose the House for sure and gaming out how that would effect TRUMP AND THE GOP AGENDA!

I think this is all very good for us provided we don't get distracted and keep up the momentum and build on it



WE ARE WINNING1

[Caliman73]

67. True. All they have is division and distraction.

Democrats are typically diverse in their views, which has been the historic reason why we can be so difficult to organize. Many of us are more conservative in some aspects and more liberal on others. We do nuance, while Republicans as a party, do not.

It is our strength and weakness. But you are right. We need to focus on getting the best possible candidates into positions and moving forward from there. Today's Joe Manchin may be next cycle's Julian Castro, or Mark Pocan one day. Local issues are important. That is what brings people out to vote. What works for Lamb's district in Western Pennsylvania, would likely not work in my district in the Monterey Bay area of California.

The major difference between Democrats and Republicans is who government works for. Democrats want government to work for the average citizen. Republicans want government to protect the interests of the wealthiest people.

[Major Nikon]

42. It looks more like the death throes of a sick beast

Trump was exactly backwards in his statement. Wingnut dipshits are going to get tired of losing. Every time they open their mouth they expose themselves as a loser. While the slack-jawed rubes are slow to learn, eventually they will figure this out and forever wallow in their shame.

[denvine]

45. Thanks for the reminder!

You are right!

[Corvo Bianco]

49. Thank you NC Traveler!

[ismnotwasm]

53. K&R

[mia]

55. Thank you.

I've noticed the negative tone on DU since Wednesday morning.

[SunSeeker]

56. Thank you!

[workinclasszero]

58. I noticed lots of posts trying to pit democrats against each other

Divide and Conquer is the name of the game and it's real interesting coming after Lamb's huge victory in Trump land.

Somebody is scared shitless over the Big Blue Tsunami coming their way this fall and is trying to divide democrats feverishly.

[Upthevibe]

60. Yes!

[Heartstrings]

61. Move on to Midterms! nt

[FreepFryer]

63. Nice! Great post. (n/t)

[maxrandb]

70. Why are they so upset

I thought Lamb ran as a Retrumplican

[Blue_Tires]

71. +1

[Stinky The Clown]

72. You are absolutely right.

[IluvPitties]

73. Whoever is here bashing Dems

is not on our side.

[NurseJackie]

75. Amen!

[Binkie The Clown]

76. Divide an conquer. Putin is loving this.

And the handful of "useful idiots" here on DU are helping him immensely.

[blue-wave]

79. You are spot on

We just gotta keep on keepin on!

[GulfCoast66]

80. Yep. Learned tonight here on DU that him supporting Roe is not enough

That because he, as a catholic would never get an abortion himself, and even though he totally and vocally supports Roe along with a women’s right to choose, that in reality he is just waiting to sell women down the river. Needless to say I objected strenuously.

[Ninsianna]

81. Why does that sound familiar?