What a fucking douche....

[Aviation Pro]

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...anyone else catch Lurch the Fucking Stiff's^TM interview on Skeletor Scheiffer's Face the Nation?

Basically, this numbnutz motherfucker wants another war; this walking shitstain is just following his 'kingly' DNA where the only thing he knows is causing wars where our nation's finest are chewed up in another fucking meat grinder; and he's willing to say this as he squats in the most volatile region of the world.

The question that the interviewer should have asked this assclown is, "would you encourage your five coward sons to volunteer for service or are you going to let the poor and middle class fight this one too, fuckstick?"

Go fuck yourself and the four deferments your rode in on, phlegm.

[Scuba]

1. You're being much kinder and more polite than I would be.

[Aviation Pro]

2. I'm just getting warmed up...

....

[TahitiNut]

54. Indeed. It's an insult to douches, which are (arguably) useful.

This guy's more like a mesh condom ... or used toilet paper.

[Did I Just Type This]

101. Ouch!

You are so right!

[Whisp]

3. righteous rant. k&r

[NYC_SKP]

4. Don't hold back...

...tell us how you really feel!

[elleng]

7. HEY, SKP!

[NYC_SKP]

10. !

[JoePhilly]

5. Mitt thinks war is just a hostile take over.

[elleng]

6. Didn't watch, but 'read' him differently:

His 'handlers' want this, think repug wars win them votes as they did so well for W, & rmoney can't come up with any suitable advisors.

[Aviation Pro]

11. Which is why....

....this puppet should never come within sniffing distance of the Presidency. Another fucking no-nothing king "handled" by the cartel of sycophants and familiars of the Racist Inbred Party, Tea Garglers and Lurch's wealthy fuck buddies is not what we need.

[Aviation Pro]

8. One other fucking point....

...Lurch the Fucking Stiff^TM is a terrorist and will hold this nation hostage should he enter the White House. His words should inspire everyone to ensure that this fucking fuckwad never comes within sniffing distance of the place because he will cause untold Americans to die through war, hunger and poverty.

Fuck this fucking terrorist and the horror he represents.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

9. gawdamn a warmonger. gawdamn them all to hell.

[SoCalDem]

16. People who MAKE wars should be required to send their sons

to the front lines...or daughters..or grandchildren

and before ANY military forces enter hostilities anywhere, there should be an automatic 15% tax on EVERYONE for the duration of the war..

That's how you stop invasive war-making.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

17. works for me. put your children where you mouth is, Rmoney.

[Confusious]

77. works for me to. nt

[calimary]

100. Works for me as well! No more sanitizing. If they want war so badly,

I think they shouldn't ONLY bet their kids' lives on it. THEY THEMSELVES should go enlist, suit up, and step to the front of the deployment line.

Hey chickenhawks (especially the rich, coddled dilettante types) - you want that war so badly? Well, lead the way, then. Let's see what you got. You want that war so damn badly? Put your money where your mouth is, suit up, and go fight the damn thing. Go put your own ass on the line.

[radiclib]

12. Now, now

Not fair to fucksticks.

[Aviation Pro]

15. Fine....

....bag of dicks then.

[siligut]

13. You know, it used to be that leaders were leaders because they were strategic and capable warriors

They were battle tested and respected by their peers. The crazy contingent of the RW thinks we are headed toward end times, Romney thinks he is the chosen one to lead the way. Figuratively, of course.

[lunatica]

14. ditto, only he has lots more family he can send to war (girls too)

[Tuesday Afternoon]

18. looks like Duggar's city cousins.

[Iliyah]

22. Oh look at all those surrogates' children

LOL

No, the rich want your kids to fight their wars, look at what W did. The Bushies and crew made lots of money on the blood of our children.

[coalition_unwilling]

24. I know where you're coming from but his children and grandchildren

should not have to pay for Mitt's sociopathy. No one's kids or grandkids should.

What am I trying to say? Beats me. Let me have another cup of coffee.

[obxhead]

27. If he doesn't believe in the 'conflict' enough

to send his own children to fight why should ours go?

[coalition_unwilling]

55. Actually, I think it was the little girls and boys in the pic

on whose behalf I was attempting to speak. Probly Mitt's grandkids, not his children.

Why should anyone's kids or grandkids have to pay for the folly of their parents\grandparents?

Is what I think I was trying to say, probably not very adeptly.

[obxhead]

69. I understand what your saying, but

it implies that it's ok for our kids to suffer that folly.

If it's not good enough for his children and grandchildren it's not ok for ours. I'll send 'mine' (I don't even have kids yet) after each and every one of his go first.

Should they suffer? You're damn right. It's their father/grandfather. If he's leading the charge his family should be the first to be involved in the fight. If they don't agree with it they need to smack their father and call him the fool he is and protest louder than the rest of us.

I'm tired of the children of 'great men' cheering a war and claiming they're too important to be involved.

[A Simple Game]

86. If you're old enough to go to war, you are old enough to vote.

Well at least you should be.

I would go even farther, let the ones that want war be the ones to lead the ground troops into battle, just like in the old days. I dare say that would stop a large share of wars.

[Aviation Pro]

28. You're trying to say that you care...

...but in this case as in all cases with a 'monarchy' that is the undoing of the 'peasant' class. These children and grandchildren are trained and indoctrinated to look down on the 'commoners' with disdain and they only deign to eye them as servants and serfs. Want proof? Remember Lurch the Fucking Stiff's^TM 'prank' on his blind teacher?

[coalition_unwilling]

56. I do indeed remember everything this fucking sociopathic fucker has done (that has

been reported so far).

I think I was referring more to the little boys and girls in the photo, many of whom cannot be more than 10 years old. I don't think they should have to pay for their father's (grandfather's?) sociopathy.

The "sins of the father" stuff is awfully Old Testament, imo.

[treestar]

89. I agree

I get where you are coming from. Though there's the factor that those kids will have every advantage due to bloodline, just like Mittens himself did. But I wouldn't say the 5 sons should have to go to any war unless they support it also. At least let them give their own opinion. Helping their fuckwad father get elected is not serving this country.

[xmas74]

71. The faux monarchy of the U.S. might feel this way

but other, "real" monarchies actually serve in the military, instead of just letting others. I think it's a great form of leading by example.

[progressivebydesign]

44. but ours should? No, he has come out and said his sons are "serving the Country" by campaigning.

I say they're fair game for fighting his wars.

[coalition_unwilling]

65. Yeah, that's the question. No one's kids or grandkids (not even his own)

should be sacrificed to the vanity of a socopathic fucker like Mitt.

[Raster]

64. Mitt's children and grandchildren should be grist for the mill just as any other child....

...in the US. The next war should be staffed by conscription with NO DEFERMENTS. The children of the rich and powerful should take their chances right next to the children of everyday Americans.

[coalition_unwilling]

68. Agree with you 100% on that. Having universal military conscription, imo,

is a way to keep the system honest.

However, I should point out that many vets and draftees (like Pinboy3Niner) disagree with us about this. And I'm tempted to STFU in the presence of their wisdom gained through experience.

[Raster]

74. and what would be the logical reason for not mandating conscription? And quite frankly I will not

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...STFU about this. The "all volunteer" military currently exists precisely to exempt the children of the rich and powerful. Why on Earth would ANYONE decree a free pass because of genetic fortune?

Seriously, that type of logic is akin to a so-called "middle class" person taxed at a 25% tax rate insisting that it is only fair that a multi-millionaire only be taxed at a 10% tax rate.

[coalition_unwilling]

80. Since I basically agree with you on this, I'm probably not the best person to represent

the 'no draft ever again' position. But, based on my interactions with its adherents (many of whom were drafted, served noroably and were wounded), I would say it boils down the idea that killing people is such an awful thing that no one should ever be forced to do it against his or her will.

Pinboy (and other anti-draft vets), my apologies if I have fundamentally mis-stated your position on this. Since I've never seen combat, I feel like I owe it those who have to defer to their judgment somewhat, while agreeing with you on the principle of the thing. Does that make me a spineless, uncritical lemming? I would hope not, but I just have so much respect for the opinions of those who fought and suffered, as compared to my own opinions which have not been tested in the mettle of fire.

Hope that makes sense.

[Raster]

81. I completely get that drafting innocent kids to fight in a godless war for greed or vanity is wrong.

Totally and completely agree. What is also wrong is changing the rules so that only the kids of the less financially fortunate participate.

The real problem is the godless war for vanity and greed.

Yes, in a perfect world, the concept of a purely volunteer defense force staffed with only those persons that want to participate is a damned fine idea.... except, this isn't a perfect world. If there is going to be suffering and pain involved, does it not make more sense, and is it not morally correct to share the pain and suffering over all so that a small segment is not forced to bear it all?

I understand how anti-draft veterans would not want anyone to go through what they went through. They bore the burden -unfairly - and suffered the majority of consequence, also unfairly.

But as it stands now, the children of the rich and powerful BEAR NO BURDENS and FEEL NO PAIN during these international pissing contests. This level of wrong is only surpassed by the wrongness of the actual war itself.

The next time some stuffed suit decrees that a war would be good for the economy, it ought to be their children on the front lines.

[coalition_unwilling]

84. Yeah, you're eloquently summing up one side of the debate (the side with

which I agree in principle). I've heard the current situation referred to as "the poverty draft" and remember Lyndie England (of Abu Ghraib fame) being quotes as having said the only reason she enlisted was that there was nothing other than WalMart jobs for 60 miles around where she grew up.

When 50% of Congress is made up of multi-millionaires, having universal military conscription helps keep the system honest by ensuring their kids can't buy their way out of service and thus Congress may become less willing to sacrifice their own young in the pursuit of imperial hubris.

[barbtries]

88. but sadly in this country,

a draft wouldn't change that. children of the rich would still be able to get out of serving. look at gw. look at cheney. look at romney himself.
privilege is for the privileged in this country. going back to the draft - well it would have to be written so the only allowable deferments would have to do with physical or mental incapacity. nothing else.
i'm more for an end to war. and yeah i know, good luck with that.

[atreides1]

106. Why not?

If mine will have to pay for his sociopathy, then his should be in the front leading....

[napkinz]

50. His five sons are doing their "duty" ...

[Ikonoklast]

19. Iran IS NOT Iraq.

They could field a real army consisting of modern weapons, anti-ship missile defenses, first-rate anti-aircraft batteries, short supply lines to China who would willingly sell them A&A by the megaton.

The U.S. would need to strike first to decapitate defensive capabilities for any chance at any kind of success.

Pre-emptive war is now big business...and one day, the rest of the world is going to get sick of our shit.

[coalition_unwilling]

29. Last time I checked, Iran had over 1,000,000 men in its Army and close to 100,000

in its Revolutionary Guard (defined as those who have declared publicly a willingness to carry out a suicide mission to defend Iran).

Iran also is pretty culturally cohesive, compared to Iraq.

Invading Iran will make Iraq look like an afternoon tea party.

[patrice]

61. Remember PNAC, it's not just Iran. They're drooling over Syria & Egypt too. Checkout Rmoneys remarks

in Israel this week:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/28/1114277/-Israel-Romney-Insults-America-s-Mid-East-Allies

[newspeak]

72. pre-emptive war was hitler's MO

with the help with his propaganda apparatus. We've seen nothing new here, just a different country doing it. Hitler loved industrialists like ford, dupont; and some of those industrialists loved him, enough to give him business to catapult his agenda. and some did so against their own country.

[Ikonoklast]

76. Don't forget the Harrimans and the Bushes.

Loved them some Fascists, they did.

Prescott Bush had to plead "Nolo Contendere" under The Trading With The Enemy Act.


http://www.mbpolitics.com/Bush2000/Vesting.htm


What Great American Patriots...MONEY OVER EVERYTHING, EVERYONE, EVERY COUNTRY, EVERY TIME.

[tabasco]

20. I couldn't have said it better myself. N/T

[darkangel218]

40. what does n/t stand for?

[From The Ashes]

46. Hi! Welcome to DU.

N/T means 'No Text'.

[darkangel218]

66. Hello and thanx!

It was bugging me seeing n/t and not having a clue as to what it meant

[xxqqqzme]

47. No Text

n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Yes, I saw that.

[Logical]

23. I counted 8 cuss words. I bet some stopped at the 2nd one. n-t

[Aviation Pro]

25. Why did you count....

...is politics supposed to be composed of fucking delicate prose? Especially, when the nation as we know it is at clear and present danger from this wad of fuck.

[Logical]

26. I find a lot of cuss words distracting. And not helpful. But to each his own. n-t

[99Forever]

35. Sorry the guy ..

.. offended your delicate sensibilities. Next time, I'd suggest you not click on threads containing some version of FUCK in their title.

BTW, being polite and non-offensive in this day and age leads to fail.

[Logical]

42. OK, that explains why I see a lot of "FUCK" words in the NYT headlines! LOL!

[99Forever]

48. I have almost ...

.. no idea what that is supposed to mean. Are there copies of DU on the news stands?

Conflate much?

[bayareaboy]

67. My feelings egg-zact-ly!

No Fucking Wars This Week

How do you think that would look, in the Times.

[lunatica]

63. In context I find cuss words to be quite entertaining

I also like using them. To me they're just part of our language and just as valid as any other words. They can be used to express one's feelings rather accurately. Anger, frustration, or even humor.

But like all language, words have their place.

[bayareaboy]

49. Then it seems ...

That is their problem!

Every once in a while people have to let loose with their true feelings, words don't kill, War does.

If there are folks here who can't understand why these words are used, they need to maybe feel that they need to understand other people better.

[lonestarnot]

30. Yeah you fucking douche!

[Tom Ripley]

31. He's a traditionalist: rich men send the sons of poor men to fight their battles

[snappyturtle]

32. I watched it. It's total oblivion for rmoney. He's too scary to be POTUS. t

[99Forever]

33. A perfect rant! Big K&R

[thelordofhell]

34. The White Horse Prophecy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

[secondvariety]

85. There isn't enough Mormons to pull it off

but it's scary that crap like that is even being discussed by a Presidential candidate. Thanks for posting the link.

[Cherchez la Femme]

94. Thank God Ann doesn't have a Lippizaner...

...speaking of which, enjoy the natural beauty

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Even 1%'er Repuglicans can't spoil dressage!

[nikto]

97. Red State NASCAR fans LOVE dressage!!!

Every one of 'em loves Dressage even MORE than NASCAR.

You can be sure of that.

That's why so many Red-Stare blue-collar folks love the Romneys.

They can realy relate to stuff like dressage & it just makes them feel that
the Romneys are reg'lar plain folks who love dancin' horses, 'jes like they do!


Dressage and NASCAR--A natural pair!

[nikto]

99. ALL Red State NASCAR fans LOVE LOVE LOVE Dressage!!

Every one of 'em loves Dressage even MORE than NASCAR.

You can be sure of that.

That's why so many Red-State blue-collar folks love the Romneys.

They can really relate, intimately, to stuff like dressage, and it just makes them feel that
the Romneys are reg'lar plain folks who love dancin' horses, 'jes like they do!


Dressage and NASCAR--A natural pair!

[darkangel218]

36. off topic, but what does "nt" mean? i see it all the time

On the end of the posts?

[BlueStater]

39. "No text" n/t

[darkangel218]

41. ahhhh! okay i got it, thanx! :)

[patrice]

62. Means that the Reply title: is all there is in that particular post. nt

[ohiosmith]

95. Incredibly, this post was alerted on. The jury voted 6/0 to let it stand.

At Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:14 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

off topic, but what does "nt" mean? i see it all the time
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1041382

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

OT

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:23 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Really, this isn't serious is it?
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Perfectly fine to ask about an acronym! I'm very surprised this was alerted on.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Don't just hide the post, TS the poster and give them indefinite double secret probation! GET REAL! Leave it!
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Seriously?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Bluerthanblue]

37. WORD

[RagAss]

38. It's just the blood of the poor. He's willing to spare it.

One day this fucking shit is gonna end.

[napkinz]

43. You have to understand Mitt's problem ...

[heaven05]

45. beautiful rant.

wow! didn't know it was out there. my sentiment(s) exactly. keep up the good work.

[patrice]

51. And Cheney is handing out atta-boys for tough talk in Isreal. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THEM!!

[patrice]

52. The FUCKING House of "Representatives" if FULL of American Exceptionalists!! nt

[newspeak]

70. yeah, and he'll want to pay for it on the backs of the poor

little boots cut taxes to his wealthiest friends while starting a fabricated war for his friends. our sacrifices for the war in iraq was to go shop, while many of his friends made huge profits on his bogus war. most of the wealthy made profits on the wars while having to sacrifice nothing, nada!!!!!

well, little boots increased the deficit over eighty per cent while weakening our infrastructure, increasing the government in spying on its' citizens but cutting on regulations to protect citizens (USDA, EPA, etc.). we've been basically bled dry by these leeches and now they want us completely bone dry servile peasants. a romney presidency will just finish the job on most of the americans; and then they'll trot out the true "masters" behind the curtain.

[patrice]

78. In truth, that even includes low-paid military, who I guess remain uninformed because they ARE

military and, therefore, assume that they don't need to know and have THEIR OWN opinions about their bosses. One thing that drives that passive attitude amongst low-paid military is the fact that they have good benefits. There's an article being posted on FB about that.

You're right, newspeak, we ARE sitting ducks for our true masters.

AUDIT the Fed or END it!!!

[bayareaboy]

53. I caught the interview ...

And determined again to not watch the Sabbath gasbag programs again. I get enough during the week.

Good rant though. some folks don't understand that every once in a while that the king's english won't work all the time.

[hfojvt]

57. sheesh, talk about eschatological excesses

inside joke

Ecclesiaticals endeavor to explain or establish an excuse for egregiously eschewing or ebulliently espousing eschatoligical excesses.

Brought to you by the letter E.

[Aviation Pro]

79. Eh, V's rant was better....

...joking, that was pretty cool.

[hfojvt]

83. V's rant was much better

even the Faustian line "vi veri veniversum vivus visi"

"violently vicious and voracious violation of volition."

[Greybnk48]

58. I like the way you talk, LOL! n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

59. Draft dodger?

[nc4bo]

73. So how are we going to pay for it? I mean since he's going to be following #43's

agenda and all.........

Draft? Volunteer armies all burnt the hell out and can't grind much more.

Fuck with our Social Security and Medicare? Slash ALL our fucking safety nets?

No more wars so the 1% can play Monopoly using the 99% as the pawns. If this bastard wants to fight some wars, tell the 1% to send their sons and daughters, mothers and fathers into the meat grinder.

[patrice]

75. Some of those deals going down in back rooms in response to the Derivative Crash + LIBOR will get

together to pitch PRIVATE war projects, to shore up their losses with new profits, and that will suck our weak financial sector into PNAC plans which will then be backed politically to "protect" our ostensibly "weak" economy. All rather indirect, but the more powerful for being so.

[HuckleB]

82. He wants the US to be the Spain of the Imperial era.

Thus, the drama falls to us, and the economic benefits go to the wealthy and to other nations.

It's just bloody history repeating itself. Ugh.

[L0oniX]

87. Fucking McCain reject ...and that says it all!

[Doctor_J]

90. Here is another follow-up you won't hear on Big Media

George Bush's wars have cost 2 trillion dollars. How would you pay for the 2 trillion YOUR war would cost?

[liam_laddie]

91. YEAHHH!!!! (a la H.Dean...)

[amerciti001]

92. That has been a perplexing question...

Here this Person has had Five Sons, count them-5- and not one of them has either enlisted or through college, been commissioned, into the American Military Service, 5 boys and not a'one of them, has been a part of the US Military.

Now, this draft dodger, Wants To Be President Of The United States of America (remember, them people can't spell"America&quot , and go straight to War!! (Iran, anyone?), this numbnutz motherfucker wants another war, my question is: "would you encourage your five coward sons to volunteer for service or are you going to let the poor and middle class fight this one too, fuckstick!?!?"

Go fuck yourself and the four deferments your rode in on, phlegm.
**I agree with you 100%**

[spanone]

93. the neocons are in control of the reThug party. hadley, bolton

[Angry Dragon]

96. Let your love of Willard shine through

[nikto]

97. Red State NASCAR fans all LOVE Dressage!!

Every one of 'em loves Dressage even MORE than NASCAR.

You can be sure of that.

That's why so many Red-Stare blue-collar folks love the Romneys.

They can realy relate to stuff like dressage & it just makes them feel that
the Romneys are reg'lar plain folks who love dancin' horses, 'jes like they do!


Dressage and NASCAR--A natural pair!

[Did I Just Type This]

102. I read your post,

Found it confusing, what are you trying to say? Are you for or against Mittwitt's commentary, stop beating around the bush!

[Dash87]

103. Hahahahaha "You raaaaang?"

[NNN0LHI]

104. He wouldn't be doing it if he thought there wasn't an audience for it

[underpants]

105. That is all-time DU classic rant

but hey, watch the language.