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FSogol

(45,473 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 04:03 PM Mar 2018

Geneva Motor Show Debuts 2 flying car concepts

This past month at the Geneva Motor Show, two car companies debuted their flying car concepts. Each took a different approach toward designing a vehicle for both land and air.




The Personal Air and Land Vehicle (Pal-V) Liberty vehicle has two seats, retractable helicopter blades, and is powered by a gasoline-fueled engine. The vehicle has a dual engine propulsion drive train, based on a two fully certified airplane engine from Rotax. The Pal-V Liberty is certified under both the EASA in Europe and the FAA in the U.S. The driver will need a pilot license to fly the vehicle.

On the ground, the speed range is 50 kilometers per hour up to 160 kilometers per hour (30 to 100 miles per hour). The top speed acceleration is just under nine seconds. The engine of 100 horsepower has a fuel economy of 7.61/100 kilometer with a range of 1315 kilometer (817 miles).




The Pop.Up Next from Airbus and Audi

The power of a driving vehicle with autonomous driving was also on display at the Geneva Motor Show. Airbus and Audi introduced the Pop.Up Next, the follow to the Pop.Up now with self-driving technology on the road that can vertically lift into the air like a helicopter.

The vehicle is a two-seat passenger that has a 60-kW (80-hp) electric powered sled for autonomous driving on the ground. The top speed is 100 kilometers per hour (62 miles per hour) and the 15 kilowatt-hour battery has a 130-kilometer (81-mile) range.


Whole article and more pictures here:

http://www.machinedesign.com/mechanical/sky-it-s-flying-cars?NL=MACD-001&Issue=MACD-001_20180323_MACD-001_545&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1_b&utm_rid=CPG05000002209975&utm_campaign=16130&utm_medium=email&elq2=a9daf07e351c490397afa378104b1887

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AllaN01Bear

(18,148 posts)
3. gee here we go again
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 04:12 PM
Mar 2018

these car makers have been promesing these type of cars since the 30s . wont happen espically when the patent attorneys and the product liability attorneys will sue the minute these things hit the production line . then theres regulatory issues . in this country who would govern the flying aspect(faa) then who would govern the road aspect of the machines? the state dmv? also would one need flying lessons ? ( im assuming so) also where would they depart and land from? ( im sure not from public roads . lots of questions.

marble falls

(57,075 posts)
9. My cat is interested in it, too. But the one that for some reason that really pissed him off ....
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 09:06 PM
Mar 2018

is the video of the cat playing a theremin.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
16. Soooo funny. I remember this episode from when I was a kid - granted, it was a rerun.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:11 PM
Mar 2018

Slowly I turned...step by step, inch by inch

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
6. I love this junk concept....
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 04:26 PM
Mar 2018

Cars and planes don't mix, period. A car needs to have an entirely different weight distribution than an aircraft, it is supposed to hug the road and handle curves without slipping on the pavement.. An aircraft is supposed to hand g forces not by friction (unlike a car), and tries to keep the center of gravity ahead of the center of lift.

You combine aircraft and car you get (a) a car that does not drive very well, and (b) a flying contraption that does not fly very well.

But it is fun sci-fi stuff. I remember the contraption of a car that had a Cessna Skymaster's wings detachable from the roof - it was even in a Bond movie. Yes, it would be so cool to lift off into the air with your - ahem - car.

But there is also another reason why these concepts fail: Learning to fly a plane is a much more complicated process than learning to drive a car. The mass market appeal would never work, because too few people would actually be licensed to fly the clunker.

(I am both a car driver, amateur mechanic, and a pilot...)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. But it's no good underwater
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 04:53 PM
Mar 2018

Screw that.

If they don't have a car/plane that also works as a submarine, then what good is it?

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
18. Of Course, It Will Work Underwater
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:59 AM
Mar 2018

Well, for a little while, anyway. Then there's the whole filling up with water thing, but for that first 5 minutes, smooth as silk.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
19. Looks like a rare instance
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:00 AM
Mar 2018

...where the cost of collision insurance would be triple the cost of the vehicle.

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