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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:45 PM Mar 2018

Here's why 84 male figures are standing on the edges of London rooftops



If they looked up, passersby in central London on Monday got a strange and unsettling sight: 84 men, standing silently on the rooftops of office towers as if they were about to leap to their deaths.

Except these men aren't actually human. They are life-size sculptures, placed there to raise awareness about suicide.
The sculptures were installed overnight as part of Project 84, an idea made possible by American street artist Mark Jenkins and the Campaign against Living Miserably, or CALM, a charity focused on preventing suicide, which it says is the single biggest killer of men under 45 in the UK.

The sculptures represent the 84 men who commit suicide, on average, each week in the UK. CALM says three in four suicide victims are men.


Jenkins worked with collaborator Sandra Fernandez to create the sculptures. Each of the 84 represents a real man who died by suicide, and their individual stories are chronicled on the Project 84 website.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/26/world/london-sculptures-project-84-suicide-trnd/index.html
https://www.projecteightyfour.com/
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BigmanPigman

(55,182 posts)
1. Tons of suicides in the US are committed with a gun.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:54 PM
Mar 2018

In Japan they go to cliffs. Every society has suicides but the means vary. If guns are not available they use a different method. The difference with guns and the US is that many men who do it kill other innocent people too.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/the-truth-about-suicide-guns

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/mar/20/testosterone-myth-male-hormone-behaviour-risk-taking?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

FakeNoose

(41,691 posts)
2. In my life I've known 2 suicides, both were unmarried men over 50
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:09 PM
Mar 2018

These were not among my family or close friends, they were co-workers and they happened at different times.

The first was an older man who was close to retirement and suffering from depression. Divorced, living alone, and his kids were grown. He drove his car off the bank into the river and drowned himself.

The second was a man closer to my own age that I knew quite well. A single man who had a steady girlfriend, and she thought they would get married. But he had a different idea, and went on his own and jumped off a bridge and drowned.

It's puzzling to those of us who aren't experiencing depression or anxiety, how someone could make that choice. I believe women are much more likely to reach out and ask for help and attention, while men won't do that out of pride or whatever.

BigmanPigman

(55,182 posts)
4. I know over a dozen people who killed themselves for various reasons throughout
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:23 PM
Mar 2018

my life time and they have shot themselves, overdosed on purpose, slit wrists, drove off a cliff, hanging, and gassed inside a car. All were men. Some were going to die from illness and it was a quality of life issue.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. My ex-brother-in-law dove off a small cliff
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:10 PM
Mar 2018

My male cousin shot himself in the head. Both left behind children. I think about them all the time.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
6. Not exactly true
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:39 PM
Mar 2018

Some are going to kill themselves anyway, but the easy access to guns insures there will be more who do it with greater success.

SunSeeker

(58,285 posts)
8. But easy access to a gun makes suicide more likely.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:48 PM
Mar 2018
In 2006, after years of suicides among young men in the Israel Defense Forces, authorities forbade the troops from bringing their rifles home on weekends. Suicides dropped by 40 percent, according to a 2010 study by psychiatrists with the IDF and the Sheba Medical Center.

Those attempting suicide for the most part act on impulse, often after surprisingly brief periods of deliberation. But the impulse also passes. A survey of people who deliberated about killing themselves but did not act found that for about half, the suicidal period lasted less than an hour, according to Miller.


https://www.stripes.com/news/experts-restricting-troops-access-to-firearms-is-necessary-to-reduce-rate-of-suicides-1.199216

BigmanPigman

(55,182 posts)
10. Acting on impulse is the main link between successful suicides
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 12:00 AM
Mar 2018

committed by a gun shot and men than other methods which require my time, planning and thought. Since young men fall into that group more than young women I am sure that the easy access to guns contributes to the high rate in this group in the US.

mountain grammy

(29,038 posts)
7. My nephew was just 21, hung himself.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:45 PM
Mar 2018

Another good friend with a gun.. never see it coming. Hits everyone.

NBachers

(19,444 posts)
9. Then there are those who shoot themselves in the head and don't die- but are left with the damage.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:59 PM
Mar 2018

My dad and my cousin both killed themselves. And now, the thing that should be farthest from my intention, somehow becomes something I have to fight to avoid.

phylny

(8,818 posts)
11. Years ago, I had a hospital patient - failed suicide, through and through both
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 12:23 AM
Mar 2018

temples.

The scabs were...horrific to see. He was there, but he wasn't there. He spoke nonsensically. It was so sad, but there wasn't much I could do for him (speech-language therapy). I often wondered if he ever regained any typical brain function after his discharge to rehab.

I'm so sorry for your losses and hope you are well.

NBachers

(19,444 posts)
13. I'm well, and I'll be around for a long time. It's strange how the opposite becomes an attractor
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 12:29 AM
Mar 2018

instead of a repulsor though, isn't it?

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