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Demovictory9

(32,419 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:13 PM Mar 2018

Chef carved raw deer leg in front of vegans

The vegans planned their protest for the middle of the restaurant’s busy dinnertime shift.

The group of animal rights activists were incensed that Antler Kitchen & Bar, a locavore restaurant in Toronto that says it highlights regional ingredients, served foie gras and farmed meat “meant to run in the wild.” So a group of them stood in front last week chanting “you’ve got blood on your hands,” and holding a banner that read MURDER in hot pink lettering.

Then came the counterprotest.

Michael Hunter, a chef and co-owner of the restaurant appeared in its window with a raw deer leg and a sharp knife, when he began to carve up the meat in full view of the protesters, some of whom later said they were disturbed for days, according to news reports.

“I figured, I’ll show them,” Hunter told the Globe and Mail. “I’m going to have my own protest.”

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Video shows him cutting up the leg, slicing the red meat away from the bone, as protesters decry the “recently murdered deer,” and ask police at the protest if what the chef is doing is legal. At one point, the officers enter the restaurant to talk to Hunter.








https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2018/03/28/the-vegans-came-to-protest-his-restaurant-so-this-chef-carved-a-deer-leg-in-the-window/?utm_term=.10cc505e2387

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Chef carved raw deer leg in front of vegans (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2018 OP
The right to speak goes both ways... brooklynite Mar 2018 #1
I hope it was delicious. Free speech x 2. n/t X_Digger Mar 2018 #2
I do not eat meat. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #3
"I do not eat meat." LenaBaby61 Mar 2018 #38
Same here Raine Mar 2018 #50
I am a vegitarian, but those protesting in front of that restaurant are not doing any favors for still_one Mar 2018 #52
Does he really think that cutting up a dead animal is going to scare or 'gross out' Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #4
Nope, but it's a GREAT Fuck You to them. n/t MicaelS Mar 2018 #5
Like I said he should be reported for unsafe food practices. He's cutting up meat on a table in the Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #7
You're a perfect example.. MicaelS Mar 2018 #12
Well I'm not an animal rights "zealot". Just because they are acting crazy doesn't mean that he Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #16
lol, "best believe that". vegan sanctimony is an endless source of amusement Tarc Mar 2018 #23
Yeah OK Carrie. Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #24
Your attitude is as revolting as eating a human corpse for dinner. milestogo Mar 2018 #42
Sorry, what? Tarc Mar 2018 #56
And why do you support saying FUCK YOU to people who care about animal cruelty milestogo Mar 2018 #41
Because people have a right to eat in peace Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #53
"Actually this 'chef' should be reported for unsafe food practices." WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #8
Oh did he butcher the whole animal in the front window too? Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #9
Couldn't have hurt. Might've helped! WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #19
Considering he regrets the whole incident I don't think so. Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #22
THE WORLD WILL NEVER KNOW. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #25
#BASTA Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #27
From the article,"some of whom later said they were disturbed for days" aikoaiko Mar 2018 #10
They wouldn't survive 5 minutes here in New Yawk...give me a break I've seen worse on the subway. Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #11
Any of a bunch of "Samurai" Japanese restaurants would cause a psychic break JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #57
I eat raw deer meat. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #14
Glad to see you do the 2 day meatless thing..that's great and if we could all do that Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #20
See, we can meet in the middle GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #30
Of course we can! I'm very anti factory farm too...it's gross and I don't know why folks Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #32
Wait you mean "meat" in the middle....teee heheheeeee Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #34
Ugghhh! GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #35
I'd be afraid of parasites! ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #33
Cervids(deer family) do not share parasites with us. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #37
I can respect that (even though the raw bit gives me the heebie jeebies) ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #40
CWD is not a problem where you hunt GusBob Mar 2018 #43
No it is not. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #45
I'm a vegan and I agree I have less trouble with hunting than with factory farming. mucifer Mar 2018 #44
Apparently it worked. cwydro Mar 2018 #15
Well then they ought to hang it up if they were disturbed for days over a deer leg... Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author X_Digger Mar 2018 #36
...some of whom said they were disturbed for days.... BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2018 #55
Good for him. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #6
LOLLLL "Mr. Hunter"...this man sounds like a stand up guy. Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #13
. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #17
Yep, good for him. Henry Krinkle Mar 2018 #28
How can you tell if somebody is a vegan ? Henry Krinkle Mar 2018 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #29
Those that are this batshit crazy are the minority Major Nikon Mar 2018 #47
What in hell? jmowreader Mar 2018 #49
I think my favorite part of the story is them asking the cop if what he's doing is legal. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #26
God help me I laughed GusBob Mar 2018 #31
i love venison fantase56 Mar 2018 #39
We used to have beef baked tongue when we were young - potatoes and gravey, mmmmmm. demosincebirth Mar 2018 #46
Sad. I find religious fanatics tedious when not in power, and a threat to society when given access Hekate Mar 2018 #48
During the 1930's The River Mar 2018 #51
Ahh not really a good try there. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #54
I go to my local butcher for my meat, and he'd be sawing legs of lamb and beef, skinning etc. It's OnDoutside Mar 2018 #58

Raine

(30,540 posts)
50. Same here
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:01 AM
Mar 2018

but that's my personal choice and I don't concern myself with what others eat. I only get angry and go off on them if they start in on me because I don't eat meat.

still_one

(92,060 posts)
52. I am a vegitarian, but those protesting in front of that restaurant are not doing any favors for
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:37 AM
Mar 2018

their cause

I also feel the same way you do, it is a personal choice

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
4. Does he really think that cutting up a dead animal is going to scare or 'gross out'
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:28 PM
Mar 2018

the vegans? Big fucking whoop.

Actually this 'chef' should be reported for unsafe food practices.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
7. Like I said he should be reported for unsafe food practices. He's cutting up meat on a table in the
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:34 PM
Mar 2018

middle of the restaurant to serve to his customers or was it just for show? So believe me I'd get the last fuck you one way or another...best believe that.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
12. You're a perfect example..
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:38 PM
Mar 2018

O why people don't like animal rights activists. Too many animal rights activists are like religious fundamentalists.

To wit:

Proclaiming how holy they and their beliefs are.

Pushing their beliefs on others, even when told others are not interested.

Proclaiming that others are going to hell or will suffer terrible karma or retribution because they eat or use animal based products.

Just like I don't want to be prosletized to by religious zealots, I do not want to be prosletized to to by animal rights zealots.

And if you got the guy fined I would contribute to help him pay off his fine.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
16. Well I'm not an animal rights "zealot". Just because they are acting crazy doesn't mean that he
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:42 PM
Mar 2018

should too...it's unprofessional and he's the business owner with potentially much more on the line.

The zealots hurt the cause that they are zealoting for. And yes that's a word.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
23. lol, "best believe that". vegan sanctimony is an endless source of amusement
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:47 PM
Mar 2018

Ontario restaurants can't serve wild game, the carving was just for show. Unless you're boning up on Canadian health statues, you don't have a say if the man or is not adhering to regs.

Personally, I would've drenched the morons in a bucket of pig blood.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
41. And why do you support saying FUCK YOU to people who care about animal cruelty
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:43 PM
Mar 2018

and the environment?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
53. Because people have a right to eat in peace
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:45 AM
Mar 2018

Without someone shoving their sanctimonious bullshit down their throats

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,304 posts)
8. "Actually this 'chef' should be reported for unsafe food practices."
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:34 PM
Mar 2018

How do you think the meat gets off the leg?

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
11. They wouldn't survive 5 minutes here in New Yawk...give me a break I've seen worse on the subway.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:37 PM
Mar 2018

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,315 posts)
57. Any of a bunch of "Samurai" Japanese restaurants would cause a psychic break
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:05 AM
Mar 2018

as would a Mediterranean restaurant chef slicing bits from the gyros on the spit.

The show is part of the dining experience.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. I eat raw deer meat.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:40 PM
Mar 2018

I kill 2-3 a year.

I eat raw heart, liver and other cuts. Small quantities and only on the day of the kill. Human are animals too, you know.

I have vegan friends. They see less to condemn in natural, humanely(as possible) killed meat than commercially farmed meat.

That said, We try to do at least 2 meatless days a week.

However, if my vegan friends showed up to protest my consumption choice, I would be inclined to rub their faces in it. I probably would not cause I try not to be a dick.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
20. Glad to see you do the 2 day meatless thing..that's great and if we could all do that
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:45 PM
Mar 2018

it would be a better Earth...especially cutting down on cow consumption.

I can't even fathom eating raw organs...but next time I want to gorge on chocolate I'll think of this post and I bet that will help curb it.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
30. See, we can meet in the middle
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:55 PM
Mar 2018


I do not like corporate animal production and do all I can to only eat animal flesh that I kill or I know where it comes from. Preferably local.

And notice I do not use euphemisms like harvest. I know exactly what I am doing.
I just believe that is part of being human.

I also realize we are both coming from places of extreme privilege...

I can afford to eat really expensive fucking meat, and you(if vegan) have the time and money to research and sustain your lifestyle.

If we were an immigrant living in poverty wages, we would eat whatever we can get.

Have a nice evening.
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
32. Of course we can! I'm very anti factory farm too...it's gross and I don't know why folks
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:02 PM
Mar 2018

would want to eat that. That is not supposed to be how we are raising and killing animals!!

I'm not vegan and I'm pretty sure I can never be - so that ain't happenin'.
I just try to encourage others to eat LESS meat and that is all.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. Cervids(deer family) do not share parasites with us.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:29 PM
Mar 2018

Eating raw wild pork would border on insanity.

In my opinion, wild venison tartar is way safer than beef tartar from commercial beef.

But to each his or her own. Almost all ancient cultures eat the liver and heart first, normally grilled over a fire. We do the same.

I am a freethinker and do not put any spiritual meaning in the practice which many do. And I respect that.

But I do like feeling the connection with my ancestors.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
40. I can respect that (even though the raw bit gives me the heebie jeebies)
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:39 PM
Mar 2018

I don't really see what the big deal was with the restaurant owner. Even though I've been vegetarian for ten or twelve years, I have to side with his stance on wild game. Seems more ethical to me. People get some strange ideas about what to protest.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
43. CWD is not a problem where you hunt
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 11:02 PM
Mar 2018

CWD and prions are big concerns in Wisconsin

I dont reckon you would find many hunters eating raw meat.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
45. No it is not.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 11:38 PM
Mar 2018

And in an abundance of caution we no longer cut into the spinal column of our deer.

Prion deseases are way scary! But at least I am approaching and age where they are not too much of a threat.

mucifer

(23,466 posts)
44. I'm a vegan and I agree I have less trouble with hunting than with factory farming.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 11:28 PM
Mar 2018

I wouldn't be so grossed out. I'm a hospice nurse I have seem some horrific cancer wounds. To me what's described is just as gross as deep frying a chicken leg.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. Apparently it worked.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:41 PM
Mar 2018

They were “disturbed for days.”

Not a big meat eater, but I totally get what he did.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
21. Well then they ought to hang it up if they were disturbed for days over a deer leg...
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:46 PM
Mar 2018

I mean really.

Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #4)

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,304 posts)
6. Good for him.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:32 PM
Mar 2018

From the original article from the Globe and Mail:



Despite the initial satisfaction, Mr. Hunter soon regretted the stunt.

“After, I didn’t feel good about it. I felt like they got to me and I played into them.”

The next day, Mr. Hunter received an e-mail from Ms. Ugar, offering to reduce the frequency of protests to once a month in exchange for an animal-rights sign to be displayed in the window: “Attention, animals’ lives are their right. Killing them is violent and unjust no matter how it’s done.”

Mr. Hunter responded with plans to introduce a vegan tasting menu and an invitation for Ms. Ugar’s group to join him on a foraging trip.

So far, Ms. Ugar has not responded. Although she said she is thinking it over.

“I’d always rather have dialogue. I want to sit down. I’m not targeting him. I’m there to defend animals.”

Ms. Ugar’s efforts have made a change. Since video of the protest and Mr. Hunter butchering the deer leg was posted online, the restaurant has seen a direct impact. Reservation requests are up.
 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
28. Yep, good for him.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:52 PM
Mar 2018

Awwwww.... poor widdle vegans are upset because dey were "taunted"

Reservations soar at Toronto restaurant after vegan protest.

What started as a simple protest in downtown Toronto is becoming an international news story this week as more and more people learn of the chef who cut up a deer leg in front of some angry vegans.

Michel Hunter, who co-owns Antler on Dundas West, has become an internet hero of sorts since we first published a story about his bold counter-protest on Monday.

While some have decried the chef for "taunting" vegans, the vast majority of readers have been praising his peaceful, yet impactful method of fighting back against a group of animal rights activists who'd been haranguing Antler's customers for months.


https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2018/03/antler-restaurant-toronto-vegan-protest/
 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
18. How can you tell if somebody is a vegan ?
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:43 PM
Mar 2018

You don't have to, the vegan will be telling everybody.

These people are out of their fucking minds.
No one who isn't involved in their beliefs should have to tolerate this kind of shit.

Response to Henry Krinkle (Reply #18)

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
47. Those that are this batshit crazy are the minority
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 12:23 AM
Mar 2018

Then there’s another segment that cheer them on. None of them are doing their cause any good.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
49. What in hell?
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:22 AM
Mar 2018

This is a religion, and as with any other religion I feel the need to piss off anyone cramming it down our throats.

I would have felt duty-bound to order a couple of cheeseburgers.

Hekate

(90,529 posts)
48. Sad. I find religious fanatics tedious when not in power, and a threat to society when given access
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 12:51 AM
Mar 2018

...to any power at all. They want us all to burn in Hell, and are only too happy to hasten the day for us sinners.

The River

(2,615 posts)
51. During the 1930's
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:09 AM
Mar 2018

in Germany, a vegan diet was being pushed by the government. By the end of the war people were cutting up dead horses and roasting rats. Hunger is a powerful motivator. Pray you never have to choose between principles and starving to death.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
58. I go to my local butcher for my meat, and he'd be sawing legs of lamb and beef, skinning etc. It's
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:12 AM
Mar 2018

part of his service in giving me great food. He also has the tag numbers on a board listing the herd numbers (even the farms) the meat came from.

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