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Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:48 AM

How Does The Post Office Lose $1.50 On Average ......

every time it delivers an Amazon package - per Trump's tweet this morning? What is he talking about?

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Reply How Does The Post Office Lose $1.50 On Average ...... (Original post)
global1 Mar 2018 OP
dameatball Mar 2018 #1
marybourg Mar 2018 #2
Squinch Mar 2018 #24
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #3
unblock Mar 2018 #6
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #17
unblock Mar 2018 #4
Sherman A1 Mar 2018 #5
Hortensis Mar 2018 #8
Hoyt Mar 2018 #7
HipChick Mar 2018 #9
Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #10
JHB Mar 2018 #11
GeorgeGist Mar 2018 #12
Blue_true Mar 2018 #13
sarcasmo Mar 2018 #14
OregonBlue Mar 2018 #15
oberliner Mar 2018 #16
Justice Mar 2018 #18
smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #19
oberliner Mar 2018 #20
krispos42 Mar 2018 #21
NCTraveler Mar 2018 #22
SidDithers Mar 2018 #23

Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:51 AM

1. Well, it is a long way to the Amazon....but I don't know.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:51 AM

2. They make it up

on volume.

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Response to marybourg (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 12:20 PM

24. No, no, no. They make it up by being the evil geniuses behind the deep state pedophile pizza parlor!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:52 AM

3. Congress set up USPS to fail years ago requiring them to pre-pay pensions--something no other

company or agency has to do. R's want to totally privatize it so badly it bleeds off the page.

I'm guessing they are including that debt in the equation, but not sure. Or as others suggest, it is simply totally made up.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:55 AM

6. correct but usps, not ups.

ups is a separate, private company.

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Response to unblock (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:37 AM

17. Of course... haven't had my coffee yet.. Thanks

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:53 AM

4. he's lying, of course. the post office makes a profit off amazon. that's why they do sunday delivery

he's probably using some overall numbers from the post office, which includes the artificially high cost of overfunding pensions, which is a peculiar gimmick republicans have been using to make it look like the post office operates at a loss.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 09:54 AM

5. Precisely

He is very conservative with the truth.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:04 AM

8. No one can compete with our magnificent USPS.

Even after Republicans have invested years in trying to destroy it against our successful efforts to save it, not without significant damage with the loss of the mailman in the daily lives of many Americans and in their neighborhoods, though.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:00 AM

7. Simpleton thinks that because they don't charge as much as FedEx and UPS. The horrors.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:05 AM

9. I don't believe anything he says at face value..

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:07 AM

10. He is lying.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:10 AM

11. The number isnt just delivery cost, it includes the Republican-imposed...

...and quite unique requirement that the USPS fund its retirement system for 75 years out.

In other words, Republicans requires that the post office lose money, then complain that it loses money.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:18 AM

12. Something he heard on FOX I suppose.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:19 AM

13. Trump is a liar, as always.

Amazon package delivery appears to be a big reason why the Postal Service isn't in grave shape after republicans in Congress saddled the agency with the pension prepay requirement (when Dems have full power again, that requirement MUST be modified).

The USPS pretty had it's nose going under water before Amazon stepped in during the late 90s or early 2000s (forget which). The Amazon deal was and still is a big win for the USPS.

Someone on DU pointed out that UPS and FEDEX have the USPS do the expensive last leg of delivery to rural areas and small town and cities. If Trump really wanted to be helpful to the USPS, he would demand that UPS and FEDEX pay the USPS more for the final leg delivery, share the profit. At least Amazon is paying full trip fair, from the shipping point to customer's hand.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:22 AM

14. No Amazon or Ebay the USPS is bankrupt.




I was shocked when an Amazon package arrived on a Sunday. The post office makes good money from Amazon if they're delivering on Sunday.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:23 AM

15. I love the post office and Amazon UPS delivery. I live in a rural area and they are

lightning fast. FedEx is so bad, I no longer even order from companies that use them. The GOP has been trying to privatize the post office for years so, you'd think this partnering with Amazon would be right up their alley. It's obviously not the business model but the fact that the WP criticizes Trump day in and day out. He's a liar, plain and simple.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:26 AM

16. He got it from this Washington Examiner article

 

For every Amazon package it delivers, the Postal Service loses $1.46

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/for-every-amazon-package-it-delivers-the-postal-service-loses-146

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Response to oberliner (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:42 AM

18. I don't understand this article -


"Since 2007, the Postal Service has been required to allocate 5.5 percent of its fixed costs to package delivery and to incorporate that into its pricing. That figure made sense then, but today, 25 percent of the Postal Service's business is package delivery. And thanks to features of the Amazon deal – such as Sunday delivery, grocery delivery, even delivery from fish markets to local restaurants – the expenses have climbed.

In fact, they've climbed so much, according to a recent analysis by Citigroup, that the Postal Service should be charging Amazon $1.46 more per package than the $2 or so it does now. "Amazon now enjoys low rates unavailable to its competitors," the Journal story said. "It's as if Amazon gets a subsidized space on every mail truck.""

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:44 AM

19. As usual, he is just pulling stuff out of his ass to suit his narrative.

Ignore him and maybe he will go away.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 10:50 AM

20. He actually almost never comes up with this kind of thing on his own

 

He usually gets it from Fox and Friends or some other RW source that crosses his path.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 11:03 AM

21. If Donnie 2 Scoops claims that, it means the USPS makes $1.50 per package

Consider the source...

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 11:05 AM

22. Then why doesnt the piece of shit show us how good of a negotiator he is.

 

That’s right, because it’s about punishing “political enemies” and taking revenues away from an organization they want to privatize further.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2018, 11:54 AM

23. They don't...

President Dumbass is making shit up again.

Sid

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