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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 08:48 PM Apr 2018

Most News organizations have as their main goals making money. Fox News has the added

goal to push lies and **** that helps republicans get and maintain political power. I would hazard to guess the reason they are vulnerable to boycotts is because they have the latter as their main goal. So they are reckcless financially (goodwill is a commodity on all companies' balance sheets) with who they hire and what they say. If your goal is to bullshit, and keep in mind canadian fox news while it lasted and right wing newspapers in canada don't make a profit typically, then maybe you don't care so much about the goodwill with the public. And maybe that is why Fox News gets boycotted more than other TV News. If gun control is an important wedge in getting lower and middle income americans to vote republican, then maybe it was worth it for Laura Ingram to attack a child's acceptance status to university. Hope they learned from it. Tides have changed. But I bet the GOP/NRA goes down fighting harder on the gun issue which is reckless at this point. And they will then face more boycotts. GOP can't win elections if the NRA is tamed.

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Most News organizations have as their main goals making money. Fox News has the added (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2018 OP
Rupert Murdoch is the financier and enabler. democratisphere Apr 2018 #1
His sons seem to both see things pretty differently when it comes to FNC and FBN. stevenleser Apr 2018 #2
I think I disagree. sharedvalues Apr 2018 #4
Yes. And if you need proof, it's in this econ paper sharedvalues Apr 2018 #3
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
2. His sons seem to both see things pretty differently when it comes to FNC and FBN.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 09:55 PM
Apr 2018

However, folks need to remember there are at least two stations out there that would love to become the new FNC. Glenn Beck's network and NewsMax.

Making the top dog in conservative TV go away would just create a new top dog.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. I think I disagree.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:11 PM
Apr 2018

Exposing conservative propaganda can be effective.

As Asha Rangappa said in discussion about Russian propaganda, the FARA law is effective not because it blocks propaganda, but because it sheds light on propaganda. And shining light on propaganda weakens it. Once people know that a news source has an agenda, that propaganda is less effective.

So if we work hard to expose Fox's agenda and lies, we can make great headway on conservative propaganda. Weakening Fox is good. And then we can turn on exposing OANN and Newsmax.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
3. Yes. And if you need proof, it's in this econ paper
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:09 PM
Apr 2018
https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/bias-cable-news-persuasion-polarization

That paper proves that Fox, alone amongst cable networks, does not care about profit. They take a non-profit-maximizing strategy.

(And btw that paper also proves that Fox and MSNBC are HIGHLY different. Fox doesn't care about profit. MSNBC does. Fox influences voting patterns. MSNBC doesn't. Those watching closely already knew this. But it's nice to have proof.)
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