Bernie/Hillary controversies and the (real) civil war.

[PatrickforO]

Feeling my oats a little today, so this is a rant.

Everytime we get a post in here the encourages the Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters to snipe at each other, a whole bunch of people seem to rise to the bait. There are some really, really long threads with many people making good points. I've weighed in on these things more often than not, though not so much lately.

People do like to get in a last word about things the feel strongly about. It is our nature.

Personally I am quite progressive, and support Bernie's platform. Happily, many of the things he campaigned on are now in the Democratic platform if they weren't before, because a lot of them were all along. I know because I'm on my county's platform committee, and we just met yesterday post-caucus and post-county-assembly.

We need to remember first of all that come November, we need to vote straight Dem tickets. It's really come to that - we've got to get rid of these right wing crazies from all levels of government. Just roll over them at the polls. And, we need to flip both Houses of the US Congress.

When this is done, we need to impeach Trump and get rid of his whole corrupt, crooked, treasonous administration.

Then, when the right wing crazy 'militias' get their gunz out, put on their cammies and hit our streets with their filthy swastikas and brown shirts and faces contorted with hatred, we need to pressure the Dems we've elected to send in the Army and the National Guard and put them DOWN - either in prison or back under their rocks.

Because they are victims of right wing propaganda and nothing can change that. Many are fanatical true believers. That is why this IS gonna happen - it is quite likely to come to fighting before it is over.

So, let's work TOGETHER and take back our republic.

Only after this, should we argue about planks in the platform. And I'll introduce one right now that is VITAL. We need to reintroduce a 21st century version of the Fairness Doctrine to ensure that news is news and we all hear who, what, where, when and how. This way, we'll all be operating from the same set of facts, and the divisions will slowly heal.

In the meantime, for your amusement, and in honor of the Millennials and Gen Z:

I've got my clipboard, text books
Lead me to the station
Yeah, I'm off to the civil war
I've got my kit bag, my heavy boots
I'm runnin' in the rain
Gonna run till my feet are raw

Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
And I'm a soldier at thirteen
Slip kid, slip kid, realization
There's no easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
It's a hard, hard world

I left my doctor's prescription bungalow behind me
I left the door ajar
I left my vacuum flask
Full of hot tea and sugar
Left the keys right in my car

Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
Only half way up the tree
Slip kid, slip kid, I'm a relation
I'm a soldier at sixty-three
No easy way to be free
Slip kid, slip kid

Keep away old man, you won't fool me
You and your history won't rule me
You might have been a fighter, but admit you failed
I'm not affected by your blackmail
You won't blackmail me

I've got my clipboard, text books
Lead me to the station
Yeah, I'm off to the civil war
I've got my kit bag, my heavy boots
I'm runnin' in the rain
Gonna run till my feet are raw

Slip kid, slip kid, slip out of trouble
Slip over here and set me free
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
You're slidin' down the hill like me

No easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
No easy way to be free

Slip Kid, by the Who
Songwriter: Pete Townshend

[LexVegas]

1. "Personally I am quite progressive, and support Bernie's platform."

Like on guns?

[PatrickforO]

2. I'm not gonna split hairs with you.

I support the Democratic platform on guns. Which in my county and probably in my state is banned assault weapons, banned high capacity magazines, banned bump stocks and background checks without a gun show or private sale loophole, gun free schools and requirements for training. We also have a thing in there about the cops being able to confiscate guns temporarily in case someone gets a restraining order against them, etc.

So you know, Bernie isn't my Senator because I'm in a different state. I supported him over Clinton, but when he lost I supported Clinton. But Clinton lost HENCE MY POST, which, with all due respect it doesn't seem like you read too thoroughly.

I support single payer healthcare, expanded social security, free tuition at state colleges and universities, and so on. Those thing are on the Democratic platform, and since I'm on my count Dem platform committee, I support those planks. It isn't the Bernie party or the Clinton party. It is OUR Democratic party.

And WE need to quit infighting and vote straight Dem in November...ah, but that's all in my post....

[NurseJackie]

3. The primary is over. Hillary is a private citizen. There is...

There is no "Bernie-Hillary controversy" any longer. No need to make it more than it is or to characterize it in any way that unjustly distributes blame to uninvolved individuals. I'm not a "Hillary Supporter" ... She's not a candidate for ANYTHING ... I'm a Democrat!

Other than that... Cool post, I guess.

[EffieBlack]

4. +1