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kpete

(72,013 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 12:36 PM Apr 2018

OMG - The Art Of The Deal - Trump asks Kudlow to re-Join TPP -"Larry - go get it done,"

"Larry - go get it done," @SenSasse quoted Pres as telling Kudlow about possibly joining TPP trans-pacific trade deal. Says pres repeatedly said it might be easier for the US to join now. Pres originally withdrew US from TPP on his 4th day in office.




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OMG - The Art Of The Deal - Trump asks Kudlow to re-Join TPP -"Larry - go get it done," (Original Post) kpete Apr 2018 OP
Unstable moron Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #1
Good effing Lord. How stupid is this guy? AJT Apr 2018 #2
As Scooby Doo says... C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #3
He has Alzheimer's Disease or Dementia madaboutharry Apr 2018 #4
I agree with you..... CatMor Apr 2018 #6
No, he is scrambling to appear to be a good, reasonable president now that he fears his job is on notdarkyet Apr 2018 #28
I think America must have Alzheimer's or dementia too to keep allowing him to play his games with us world wide wally Apr 2018 #31
In The Future, Dementia Will Be Called "Trump's Disease" nt smb Apr 2018 #32
Undo Obama, rebrand as Trump. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #5
If they say no. Historic NY Apr 2018 #7
Someone should call the doctor...or the asylum ! syringis Apr 2018 #8
A do-over to go with his comb over? Brother Buzz Apr 2018 #9
What a fuckin moron! workinclasszero Apr 2018 #10
or, um, 180.... shanny Apr 2018 #15
LOL yeah 180 workinclasszero Apr 2018 #16
What??? peggysue2 Apr 2018 #11
I was thinking they might roll him out in restraints on a hand truck The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #27
LOL!! peggysue2 Apr 2018 #37
So Obama lsewpershad Apr 2018 #12
Good or bad idea to re-join TPP? oberliner Apr 2018 #13
Hard to say gratuitous Apr 2018 #14
I think it depends. Caliman73 Apr 2018 #17
Good, If The Special-Interest Crap Is Removed smb Apr 2018 #33
TPP is the right thing to do. It will give us leverage on China Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #18
Fox & friends are Dump's workinclasszero Apr 2018 #22
Joining TPP would be the first smart move The Dotard would make. comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #19
He and those opposed to TPP were wrong. Better to beg to get back in Hoyt Apr 2018 #20
too late kpete Apr 2018 #21
Probably true, but sometimes the "we have a moron for Prez" defense works. Hoyt Apr 2018 #23
Sure, now that we've given up all of our leverage... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #24
That Might Actually Work Out For The Best smb Apr 2018 #34
TPP was renegotiated Johnny2X2X Apr 2018 #25
I am so sick of him practicing to be president on our time Sampan Apr 2018 #26
I stand with Hillary Clinton in opposing the TPP. Jim Lane Apr 2018 #29
The Original TPP Draft Was Skewed Toward US *Special Interests*, Not The US Generally nt smb Apr 2018 #35
Oh, I believe that -- but they were INFLUENTIAL special interests Jim Lane Apr 2018 #36
Are you kidding me? If true...LOL! Trumpers are gonna be mad. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #30

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
6. I agree with you.....
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 12:45 PM
Apr 2018

this country is being harmed by it being covered up. He was never a very smart person but now it's more than that.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
28. No, he is scrambling to appear to be a good, reasonable president now that he fears his job is on
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 03:00 PM
Apr 2018

The line and all his secrets might get exposed. Imo

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
7. If they say no.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 12:45 PM
Apr 2018

The final version of the agreement was released in New Zealand on Feb. 21. The member countries are Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam. They concluded the treaty.

[link:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trade-tpp/asia-pacific-nations-sign-sweeping-trade-deal-without-u-s-idUSKCN1GK0JMhttp://|]

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
15. or, um, 180....
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 01:17 PM
Apr 2018

maybe 540? or just spin him like a top for amusement?

I had a dog once who was deeply bonded and essentially glued to my ankle. Sometimes to mess with her I would walk circles around the dining room table.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
11. What???
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 01:05 PM
Apr 2018

The man is losing it altogether. Just like saying he never said a strike in Syria was imminent.

The Trumpster may end up leaving office on a stretcher, tied down with safety restraints.

Next thing we'll hear is that he never wanted to disengage from the Paris Climate Agreement.

Talk about flailing in all directions. Stunning!

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
37. LOL!!
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:20 PM
Apr 2018

I'm thinking there might be a real possibility of this once James Comey's books is released next week. From the sounds of it, the man has taken the Trumpster to the woodshed and called him out as unfit in no uncertain terms. Things are going to get . . . explosive!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Hard to say
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 01:13 PM
Apr 2018

Will anyone trust anything that the United States agrees to? Our credibility on the world stage has taken a beating in the last 15 months. Agreements long since concluded with our closes allies have been scuttled, negotiations near conclusion have been blown up, overtures to begin negotiations have been whip-sawed back and forth to such a degree that other nations are reluctant to deal with the U.S. at all. They can't trust that something said today by the administration will still be good tomorrow, or even this afternoon.

I wouldn't negotiate with such an unstable party, and I wouldn't blame other countries for shying away from dealing with Lord Littlehands.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
17. I think it depends.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 01:23 PM
Apr 2018

It will likely result in some job losses, but also in opening of markets in other regions that may not have been that enthusiastic to trade with the US. One of the primary goals of TPP was to get something going to halt China's attempted dominance of trade within the region, so that would likely be a positive effect of the partnership.

Trade deals are historically a mixed bag, but the real problems with NAFTA, CAFTA, and others have been that the US does not protect its labor force. Policies protect corporate profit but not the actual producers of that profit. There was little or no actual funding to re-train workers from industries that were lost to oversees competition. The economy and trade actually grew but the benefits mainly went to the owners of particular companies not to sectors of industry or to the average worker.

smb

(3,474 posts)
33. Good, If The Special-Interest Crap Is Removed
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 03:55 PM
Apr 2018

The basic trade deal is beneficial; the various lobbyist Christmas-tree ornaments (corporate protections from national laws, overreaching copyright provisions, etc) make it a net detriment.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
18. TPP is the right thing to do. It will give us leverage on China
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 01:24 PM
Apr 2018

But Fox News will make him change his mind

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. He and those opposed to TPP were wrong. Better to beg to get back in
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

than to do nothing,I suppose.

Wounded Bear

(58,698 posts)
24. Sure, now that we've given up all of our leverage...
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 02:27 PM
Apr 2018

let's go crawling back to the real partners in the pact and let them dictate terms.

Don't get me wrong, it probably is a good idea to join, but by withdrawing last year, we lost credibility and leadership for years to come. Since this WAS the bulwark against China dominating the West Pacific Rim on trade, we already weakened it.

Trump's a fucking idiot. We all knew it, his supporters are just as stupid as he is.

smb

(3,474 posts)
34. That Might Actually Work Out For The Best
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 03:57 PM
Apr 2018

If the existing partners refuse to reinstate any of the provisions added at the behest of US interests and suspended when they cut a deal without us, the Dotard might actually pull off a victory by accident (like the bit from the F-Troop theme where the fort commander sneezed at just the right moment to garble a bugle call in a way that resulted in a victorious charge).

Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
25. TPP was renegotiated
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 02:30 PM
Apr 2018

When the Orange Idiot pulled out, the other countries remade the deal as it was really skewed towards the US. Zero chance the other countries (Who are quite happy with the deal now) give up much if anything to add the US to this deal. US would have to sign on as is basically.

Trump is dumd and screwed our economy out of $Billions in economic activity.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
29. I stand with Hillary Clinton in opposing the TPP.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 03:04 PM
Apr 2018

Of course, she opposed the final version that was released during the campaign. If Johnny2X2X (in #25) is correct that the TPP as implemented is even worse for us than that version, then the case for staying out is that much stronger.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
36. Oh, I believe that -- but they were INFLUENTIAL special interests
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 05:34 PM
Apr 2018

If the changes that have been make the deal less attractive to them, then it's that much less likely that we'd rejoin now.

Also, I'm guessing that the recent changes don't improve the aspects that made the TPP bad for the US generally, such as the ISDS provisions.

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