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LuckyCharms

(17,454 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:36 PM Apr 2018

BREAKING MSNBC: Trump allies worried investigators seized Cohen audio recordings.

Apparently Cohen was fond of recording things. Unclear about whether any recordings included Trump. Also, there is a problem if both parties were not aware of the recordings.

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BREAKING MSNBC: Trump allies worried investigators seized Cohen audio recordings. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Apr 2018 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Apr 2018 #1
Oh sweet jeezus !! There are tapes !!!! C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #2
Oh, lordy... (n/t) forgotmylogin Apr 2018 #3
..... BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #4
Its a Godfather/Three Stooges mashup DumpDrumpf Apr 2018 #5
John Schindler last year: "Now we go nuclear...He will die in jail". MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Apr 2018 #7
Lordy, there may be tapes! Gothmog Apr 2018 #7
Perfectly legal in New York to record conversation without informing other party wishstar Apr 2018 #9
It was improper for NY attorneys until 2001 in many circumstances djg21 Apr 2018 #14
Surely there are no allies with prior knowledge of Trump's guilt Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #10
Stupid Watergate ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #11
On the Don Lemon show last night, Carl Bernstein said the Cohen FBI raids triron Apr 2018 #12
kick for visibility triron Apr 2018 #13
Just so you know... KTM Apr 2018 #15
Another ethical violation by Cohen Gothmog Apr 2018 #16
This is to be expected given the law school that Cohen attended Gothmog Apr 2018 #17
That's why it was a RAID... duh! Tatiana Apr 2018 #18
Watergate, Shakespeare, attorney's attorney, and worst law school in the US Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #19
There is a one-party consent law in Washington, D.C., so legally it's okay pnwmom Apr 2018 #20
NY is a single-party consent jurisdiction for recording of conversations (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #21
Damn...not the Russians...not the TV Shows...but his own lawyer made tapes! Sancho Apr 2018 #22
Making and keeping recordings moondust Apr 2018 #23

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
6. John Schindler last year: "Now we go nuclear...He will die in jail".
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:45 PM
Apr 2018

I imagine so will many of Trump's "friends".

Dumbest criminals ever.

Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
9. Perfectly legal in New York to record conversation without informing other party
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:48 PM
Apr 2018

Cohen reportedly told people that because of NY law he could record without other party knowing and use phone recordings as leverage.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
14. It was improper for NY attorneys until 2001 in many circumstances
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:31 PM
Apr 2018

Despite the fact that NY is a once-sided consent state for purposes of eavesdropping.

The question has been subject to debate ever since. http://www.newyorklegalethics.com/masking-tapes-an-analysis-of-the-law-of-secret-recording-in-new-york/



Freethinker65

(10,033 posts)
10. Surely there are no allies with prior knowledge of Trump's guilt
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:52 PM
Apr 2018

Give me a fucking break. His allies are now worried because everyone will know that they knowingly supported a (wannabe?) lothario mobster

triron

(22,011 posts)
12. On the Don Lemon show last night, Carl Bernstein said the Cohen FBI raids
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:58 PM
Apr 2018

were the equivalent of the Watergate tapes. Now this has literal connnotation.

 

KTM

(1,823 posts)
15. Just so you know...
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:43 PM
Apr 2018

"I know you have a history of neither paying your employees nor fulfilling your agreements, so... this is being recorded."

Ooooops.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
18. That's why it was a RAID... duh!
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:15 PM
Apr 2018

As several on MSNBC have speculated, they had to move to prevent Cohen from destroying evidence. Maybe Stormy knew that Cohen did this. Perhaps that's why Avenatti has been on Cohen's case so much... almost taunting him.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,032 posts)
19. Watergate, Shakespeare, attorney's attorney, and worst law school in the US
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 10:06 PM
Apr 2018

1) Cohen was 7 years old in 1973. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

2) Shakespearean! How long until it is reported that there are gaps and edits?

3) When your attorney has an attorney, your case does not look good. In Trump's case, Cohen has at least two attorneys: Stephen Ryan and David Schwartz.

4)
his J.D. from Thomas M. Cooley Law School in 1991, a then-autonomous institution that later became the law school of Western Michigan University, and which in December 2017 was ranked the worst law school in the country.


pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
20. There is a one-party consent law in Washington, D.C., so legally it's okay
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 10:08 PM
Apr 2018

for anyone to have recorded anyone else in the WH -- without their awareness.

I don't know what rules might have bound Cohen as an attorney, though.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
23. Making and keeping recordings
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 10:41 PM
Apr 2018

could mean his other files and materials may also be unsecured and intact.

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