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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 08:55 AM Apr 2018

On this question the fate of the world rests

What do we gain by trashing James Comey at the very moment Trump:


James Comey is a proven LEAKER & LIAR. Virtually everyone in Washington thought he should be fired for the terrible job he did-until he was, in fact, fired. He leaked CLASSIFIED information, for which he should be prosecuted. He lied to Congress under OATH. He is a weak and.......untruthful slime ball who was, as time has proven, a terrible Director of the FBI. His handling of the Crooked Hillary Clinton case, and the events surrounding it, will go down as one of the worst “botch jobs” of history. It was my great honor to fire James Comey!


-Donald Trump





and the GOP:

“James Comey’s publicity tour is a self-serving attempt to make money and rehabilitate his own image. If Comey wants the spotlight back on him, we’ll make sure the American people understand why he has no one but himself to blame for his complete lack of credibility.”

-Ronna Romney McDaniel ,RNC chairwoman



are trying to destroy him ?


on edit- We all lambasted Comey for his inexplicable and virtually unforgivable interference in Secretary Clinton's campaign. That was then. This is now. He is under a withering attack from Trump and the GOP. As John Maynard Keynes purportedly said "When events change, I change my mind. What do you do? "
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On this question the fate of the world rests (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 OP
We gain not a thing by trashing Comey. n/t LuckyCharms Apr 2018 #1
Not a thing. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #6
K&R. Comey doesn't have a blatant disregard for the truth IMO. Rare in a Repuke. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #2
Nothing at all. Let the Pukes eat their own. There are PLENTY of other targets for us Glorfindel Apr 2018 #3
We gain nothing by attacking Comey..... CatMor Apr 2018 #4
He wouldn't have been in the spotlight if the weasels in the gop hadn't released the letter shraby Apr 2018 #5
We gain a lot by being consistent about our disdain for Comey oberliner Apr 2018 #7
Straw man. No one is blind to Comey's faults. We need every man/woman we can get to fight. -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #9
My argument is that we can be critical of Comey and still fight Trump oberliner Apr 2018 #14
Au contraire. You are arguing we need to discredit James Comey right now. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #16
I am arguing that our opinion of Comey is not going to change just because of what Republicans say oberliner Apr 2018 #17
I can criticize him for his mishandling of the Clinton investigation... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #19
Let's disentangle this, shall we ? (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #12
I'm saying that the Republicans are craven opportunists oberliner Apr 2018 #15
That's a strawman. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #18
Play smart. We must use all available tools and strategy. In short, I agree w/you.-nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #8
No rational person can demur from your retort. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #13
I will not stand in the way of anyone trying to bring down the Trump regime, whether it's a porn dalton99a Apr 2018 #10
The real traitors are mcconnell and ryan BSdetect Apr 2018 #11

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
4. We gain nothing by attacking Comey.....
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 09:04 AM
Apr 2018

he's telling what trump is all about and its not pretty. I certainly understand why he wrote the book.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
5. He wouldn't have been in the spotlight if the weasels in the gop hadn't released the letter
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 09:15 AM
Apr 2018

he promised them if he found anything new. He notified them as promised and they leaked it so it would affect the election and at the same time discredit Comey.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. We gain a lot by being consistent about our disdain for Comey
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:27 AM
Apr 2018

It shows that we, unlike the Republicans, are not pathetic craven opportunists who change positions on a whim if it suits the interests of the person at the top.

Republicans went from praising Comey to the high heavens to now calling him the worst person on earth. That is exactly the kind of naked hypocrisy that ought to be shamed and exposed. That's the game Republicans always play.

We don't have to play that game. We are mature and reasonable enough to stay consistent in our ideals.

That should gain us the respect of people across the country.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. My argument is that we can be critical of Comey and still fight Trump
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:49 AM
Apr 2018

If no one is arguing against that, then I am not arguing with anyone.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. I am arguing that our opinion of Comey is not going to change just because of what Republicans say
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:54 AM
Apr 2018

We were critical of Comey for what he did with respect to HRC while they praised him for those same actions.

Now that it is politically advantageous for them to be critical of Comey - they do a 180.

We stay steadfast in our beliefs, whether it is politically expedient to do so or not.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
19. I can criticize him for his mishandling of the Clinton investigation...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:57 AM
Apr 2018

I can criticize him for his mishandling of the Clinton investigation and applaud him for his accurate portrayal of Trump as a "mob boss" in his book at the same time. It's easy if you try.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
12. Let's disentangle this, shall we ? (REDUX)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:40 AM
Apr 2018
It shows that we, unlike the Republicans, are not pathetic craven opportunists who change positions on a whim if it suits the interests of the person at the top.



It has nothing to do with being craven opportunists and everything to do with not becoming recruits in the GOP war on James Comey.



Republicans went from praising Comey to the high heavens to now calling him the worst person on earth. That is exactly the kind of naked hypocrisy that ought to be shamed and exposed. That's the game Republicans always play.



As John Maynard Keynes purportedly said "When the facts change, my opinion changes. What do you do, sir ? "


We don't have to play that game. We are mature and reasonable enough to stay consistent in our ideals.


"A foolish consistency is the hoggoblin of a small mind..." (REDUX)


That should gain us the respect of people across the country.



How does becoming recruits in the GOP war on James Comey "gain us the respect of people across the country." ?





 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. I'm saying that the Republicans are craven opportunists
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:50 AM
Apr 2018

We are nothing close to that.

My assertion is that our consistency vs. their hypocrisy is what gains us respect.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
18. That's a strawman.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:55 AM
Apr 2018

It has nothing to do with consistency versus hypocrisy and everything to do with resisting Republican efforts to discredit him and his book which is critical of Trump.

I can believe Comey is a flawed and conflicted man and the portrait of Trump he paints in his book is credible and accurate.

dalton99a

(81,599 posts)
10. I will not stand in the way of anyone trying to bring down the Trump regime, whether it's a porn
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:35 AM
Apr 2018

star or a former FBI director.

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