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(16,104 posts)We have lost all trust, our leaders have no credibility and our country is getting played once again - possibly.
Are we still wondering if Putin was the winner?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Trump declares Mission Accomplished. The intelligence on the ground must the best ever in history!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Bush had the war escalate on him - we could be seeing 'drop mic' moment as we abandon Syria and leave it with...whatever.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)"Chemical attack" since the bombing yesterday. The only proof they have is the youtube video from an unnamed source. I suspect that trump demanded action based on the video ( and his other troubles ) and that was that. They figured it would be a win and nobody would care about proof in a few days. They will be right.
JI7
(93,617 posts)Snackshack
(2,587 posts)You Tube. A couple I have seen show footage from inside a house where there are multiple bodies of both genders of varying age from very young to old.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It would almost be a relief to see it. I hate thinking it would be this easy to fool us.
Snackshack
(2,587 posts)Using my mobile.
The ones I found were by typing Syrian gas attack in you tube search window. Most of the vids that come up today are from the bombing last night. Look for vids posted before yesterday.
Going thru google app instead of YouTube app I found this from NY Times. The image is from the video I saw earlier. This week.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/world/middleeast/syria-chemical-attack-ghouta.amp.html
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I saw some of the videos and stories. I was hoping I was wrong. Though Im not for any of the violence, I do prefer that at least the strikes are for something rather than just Trump covering his ass.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Journalists are not wandering around Syria looking for stories. The western media reports from Lebanon to the extent it reports at all. If you believe no attack occurred then you have to believe Great Britain and France were also along for the conspiracy.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)From what I can tell the entire thing was we lobbed some missiles over there and thats it.
And some took the film theyve been showing us, so why not the same source for showing bodies?
former9thward
(33,424 posts)WASHINGTON The United States and European allies launched airstrikes on Friday night against Syrian research, storage and military targets as President Trump sought to punish President Bashar al-Assad for a suspected chemical attack near Damascus last weekend that killed more than 40 people.
Britain and France joined the United States in the strikes in a coordinated operation that was intended to show Western resolve in the face of what the leaders of the three nations called persistent violations of international law.
Defense officials said that Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched from at least three American warships, while B-1 bombers dropped long-range missiles on targets. French and British warplanes also fired long-range missiles, while a British submarine launched cruise missiles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/world/middleeast/trump-strikes-syria-attack.html
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I prefer the truth at all times.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)Because that was the supposed impetus for the Persian Gulf War that involved 30-something countries and we all know that was bullshit.
This is the playbook, decade after decade, administration after administration. It is the greater project of western neoliberalism. There is always an atrocity to sway public opinion.
I'm not saying the chemical attack didn't happen, mind you, just that believing GB and France were 'along for the conspiracy' isn't so far-fetched.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)pwb
(12,669 posts)Our country may have done it or our allies.
Sick, Sick, people are in charge throughout the world.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Some film on msnbc of children being treated in a hospital with water but that is it. I haven't watched much of it as its all starting to drive me crazy.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I saw one child lying in a hospital bed who was distressed with water being poured on him. No way to tell for sure but it looked like he was being treated for exposure to gases etc. and he looked distressed. I didn't see children marching etc.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)My mistake, sorry
Initech
(108,783 posts)But that is wishful thinking.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Thanks for this. Its horrific!
Im convinced.
boston bean
(36,931 posts)People lying on the floor all over one another like they just dropped with foam on and around the mouth.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Oberliner posted them.
They convinced me this isnt a hoax.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)It was horrifying.
Now that it's been posted I'm sure some people will make a quick exit.