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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSchindler: "It's over except for the tears, the jail-time, and some mysterious deaths...
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Wow. I wish I didn't believe you re: "mysterious deaths." I hope ppl - Dems and Repubs alike - put aside their goddamn partisanship for three days and investigate where they need to investigate.
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When you Russify your country's politics at the top, you get the full package.
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(52,195 posts)PatSeg
(47,397 posts)has occurred to me. When you play with Russians, there can be dire consequences and they are really good at it.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I have personal knowledge of only one Russian. He fought for US in Italy, WW2.
As for that diminutive oligarch with a big brain and judo belt, he is just another mafia crime boss.
PatSeg
(47,397 posts)One ran a shoe repair shop and the other cleaned houses. Very nice people, not exactly FSB types. I think Putin's thugs have resources and means that would surprise most of us. They seem to be able to move about the world rather easily.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)The russian mob money travels around the globe.
PatSeg
(47,397 posts)I didn't know that. I can't think of any criminal enterprise that is more frightening and all that money makes them that much more lethal.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)and all things mafia related.. Please, no more details, horses' heads and such. The mafia is not dead in America. It has been re branded. The official word via Sheriff Joe is they are legitimate business people growing the economy.
PatSeg
(47,397 posts)and dangerous than the old Mafia.
"Legitimate business people growing the economy"??? Guess they got to Sheriff Joe!
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)deal with despite their many problems with equipping men, etc. The fact that three out of four German men died on the Eastern Front is stunning and its very sobering to think about what would have happened if Hitler hadnt ordered Operation Barbarossa and lost so many men in such devastating and costly (in every way) battles. Stalingrad was just unbelievable; the descriptions are like hell on earth.
Now Putin and his ilk are of a very different sort.
yonder
(9,663 posts)Too few people understand how awful that situation was for everybody involved. I wonder how that perspective may have shaped the political culture of post-war Russia.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The history of Shostakovich's 7th Symphony says a lot.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)Their message toward defectors and dissent is effective, whether it takes 10 days or 10 years to kill.
Many people around the globe spend a lot of sleepless nights.......
PatSeg
(47,397 posts)It is the patience that is so unsettling. They play a long game and I'm sure that anyone who has crossed them, lives in constant fear, like trying to escape the Mafia, only much worse.
getagrip_already
(14,704 posts)I heard about the russian reporter who took a 5 story express to the ground, but was there another?
Anyone domestically?
But then Putins goal is havoc which Dumbass is quite capable of all on his own. No need to kill off anyone yet, havoc is still afoot.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the mysterious deaths won't be on Team Mueller.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)tRump rages on about Mexican "rapists and thugs". How do his pals the Russians manage to emigrate, when many of them have underworld ties, and commit crimes before coming here? They come over here, join their comrades and form gangs that do despicable things, deal drugs, run prostitution rings, contract killings. Maybe we should restrict Russian immigrants, and let the Mexicans come in?
blue neen
(12,319 posts)Trump's Presidency? We can only hope.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)blake2012
(1,294 posts)in my worldview. Let's BRING IT ON, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!
bucolic_frolic
(43,124 posts)I'm still thinking they had it pegged all along and the Trump presidency was their chosen method of casting the widest net
but it's still unclear how the cleansing is going to occur
Obama did tell us the election interference would be answered at a 'time and place of our choosing'.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)And it was fed and helped along by Russian bots.
I would like comments. From a former Republican.
http://www.chicagonow.com/politics-now/2018/04/is-america-beginning-to-shift-away-from-always-being-angry/
PaulX2
(2,032 posts)But since the mob runs the planet..... Ain't gonna happen.
mountain grammy
(26,616 posts)if we get to the other side. I expect arrests, I expect killings, I expect it'll get much worse.