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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:50 PM Jul 2012

Two Photos at the empty JoePa statue site that are indicative of the change at PSU:


The shirts say "We Are Pissed Off"


http://media.sportsbybrooks.com/2012/07/joepaternostatuesite.pdf

Dear PSU students, fans and worshipers,
JOE PATERNO WAS NOT A VICTIM!

You seem to be unable to wrap your twee minds around this fact. Until there is some iota of change and remorse about what happened, I hope you lose every game you play by eleventy billion points.

It seemed that you were going to stand up and play while putting PSU pride back together. It now appears that you are intent on strengthening the cult of Joe. That is what lead to this abominable situation.

Signed,
Gawd and Everybody
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Two Photos at the empty JoePa statue site that are indicative of the change at PSU: (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 OP
Don't be surprised if some other teams run up the score hifiguy Jul 2012 #1
Notice the bad spelling DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #2
Corrected-- Xyzse Jul 2012 #4
whose nt arely staircase Jul 2012 #6
That's true Xyzse Jul 2012 #7
I wouldn't put a comma between "mistake" and "was." It is correct. "Who's" is incorrect. CTyankee Jul 2012 #10
Yes, it was corrected by someone else. Xyzse Jul 2012 #13
I went back and checked the sign. That sentence is incorrect. It could be connected to the CTyankee Jul 2012 #18
Grammar & sentence construction is a lost art in most schools SoCalDem Jul 2012 #11
I'm beginning to wonder if we are a dying breed... CTyankee Jul 2012 #20
I wish the NCAA had shut down their football program. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #3
"his only mistake was that he believed in you" arely staircase Jul 2012 #5
His "mistake" was that he was a miserable example of a caring human SoCalDem Jul 2012 #16
i know. and what really gets me is when people talk about how much he cared arely staircase Jul 2012 #21
Thank you. He failed the only test that mattered. Scuba Jul 2012 #27
you are welcome arely staircase Jul 2012 #33
hey i wonder how many of these kids (young adults) arely staircase Jul 2012 #8
What a hilariously bad sign. Brickbat Jul 2012 #9
Can't tell the difference between Who's and Whose. THAT is a PSU education. slampoet Jul 2012 #12
It may not have been a student, or a former student. Avalux Jul 2012 #24
You don't have to go to a University to get a PSU education. slampoet Jul 2012 #28
So now a "PSU education" is akin to being uneducated? Avalux Jul 2012 #29
What's with all of the capital letters? PA Democrat Jul 2012 #14
maybe OMC writ that owt. Whisp Jul 2012 #22
Dear Asshats who erected that stupid sign, rateyes Jul 2012 #15
It goes to show how a pedophile can carry on for years lindysalsagal Jul 2012 #17
appears Penn State isn't much into edumacation or critical thinking. Whisp Jul 2012 #19
One person made that sign. That person does NOT speak for me. Avalux Jul 2012 #23
Just get over it? Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #30
Wow. Avalux Jul 2012 #35
No, you are NOT a victim. Tansy_Gold Jul 2012 #38
FFS. You are not a victim here. Get over yourself. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #44
Get over it yourself. Tansy_Gold Jul 2012 #31
That's fine and I agree. Avalux Jul 2012 #36
No, I don't think people will get over it. Son of Gob Jul 2012 #34
Can you imagine how I feel? Avalux Jul 2012 #37
Looks like rape fans have found their new shrine. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #25
Arrgh! Teh Stooooooopid. It hurts!!!! nt valerief Jul 2012 #26
As far as the spelling: Tansy_Gold Jul 2012 #32
Football IS a religion KurtNYC Jul 2012 #39
Amen. Tansy_Gold Jul 2012 #40
they just can't admit that JoPa was just as much involved in the cover-up. Very sad. WI_DEM Jul 2012 #41
What's worse is that some of them know he was and think that wasn't bad. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #42
I guess these are the Smilo Jul 2012 #43

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
2. Notice the bad spelling
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:38 PM
Jul 2012

"who's only mistake was to believe in you"

God, I hope the academics finally run all athletics off that campus. Only in America would College educated people be glad they cannot spell.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
4. Corrected--
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jul 2012

"[b]Who's Only Mistake Was That He Believed In You".
-as per mentioned by others Whose rather than Who is-
Granted, I would have placed a "," comma in between "Mistake" and "Was" for emphasis, but that was also arguably correct.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
7. That's true
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jul 2012

Thanks! Was mostly looking at how the wording changed completely missed that part out.
My mistake.

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
10. I wouldn't put a comma between "mistake" and "was." It is correct. "Who's" is incorrect.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jul 2012

The possessive "whose" is correct. "Who's" is a contraction of "Who is."

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
13. Yes, it was corrected by someone else.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jul 2012

I'll update the post to show the correction.

I was mostly looking at how the quotation changed the phrase.

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
18. I went back and checked the sign. That sentence is incorrect. It could be connected to the
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jul 2012

sentence before it and that would require a comma before "whose..."

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
11. Grammar & sentence construction is a lost art in most schools
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:05 PM
Jul 2012

and we all know they are eliminating "art".....

I LOVED diagramming sentences as a kid, and I don't think my kids learned about it much, if at all, in school

Without it, it's nearly impossible to make much sense when writing.

"Word" tries, but we all know how miserably spell-check misses the mark sometimes.

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
20. I'm beginning to wonder if we are a dying breed...
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jul 2012

I, too, did diagramming and I remember liking it. I was good at it (I guess that's why I liked it so much!).

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
3. I wish the NCAA had shut down their football program.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

And made Penn State concentrate on academics, and not football! And stop the cult of personality of Paterno!!

Heavens, what a thought! Teaching kids to think instead of teaching them to knock each other down and hurt them!!

Woah!!


SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
16. His "mistake" was that he was a miserable example of a caring human
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jul 2012

He was willing to write off the young kids who were being abused. He was more than willing to accept the accolades & big bucks . He was as much the abuser as Sandusky was.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
21. i know. and what really gets me is when people talk about how much he cared
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jul 2012

for the young men on his team and made sure they were getting a good education and didn't just care about the game. well he didn't give a sh*t about those kids getting raped in the shower by his friend the monster.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
8. hey i wonder how many of these kids (young adults)
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jul 2012

will eventually feel a lot of embarrassment later in life about what they chose to stand up for - an institution and people who aided and abbetted child rape.

at the very least there will come places and times when it will be clear that cannot mention the fact they defended these twisted people without experiencing harsh scorn others.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
9. What a hilariously bad sign.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:56 PM
Jul 2012

And "We Are Pissed Off" -- way to take a stand, boys.

College students are pissed off!

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
12. Can't tell the difference between Who's and Whose. THAT is a PSU education.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

This idiot just failed a 4th grade word test.





and the COWARD didn't sign it.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
24. It may not have been a student, or a former student.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jul 2012

I am pissed off at my fellow DUers. Someone posts a pic of that that stupid sign, and DUers make assumptions that PSU alumni and students are dumb and horrible people. Are you really so narrow-minded to say "THAT is a PSU education"? Ridiculous.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
28. You don't have to go to a University to get a PSU education.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:07 PM
Jul 2012

Are you so uneducated that you don't grasp my metaphor?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
29. So now a "PSU education" is akin to being uneducated?
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jul 2012

The lack of sensitivity for those of us who are connected to Penn State, yet don't agree with the JoePa worship makes me sad.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
15. Dear Asshats who erected that stupid sign,
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:12 PM
Jul 2012

Mr. Paterno's mistake was in not beating the shit out of Sandusky before turning his ass into authorities, thus allowing child rape to continue unabated right under his nose.


Fuck JoePa, and the clowns he worked for, and the cowards who worked for him, and the horses they all rode in on!

lindysalsagal

(20,643 posts)
17. It goes to show how a pedophile can carry on for years
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jul 2012

We have to make the painful step of believing what we see rather than what we want to see.

Those poor kids.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
19. appears Penn State isn't much into edumacation or critical thinking.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jul 2012

I'm sorry but reading that was... painful. Fubar message done in the parlance of a grade 6er.

o, and btw.

fuck you in hell, JoePa.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
23. One person made that sign. That person does NOT speak for me.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jul 2012

How about posting a positive story about Penn State? I am sick of you bashing my school and making assumptions that all alumni, all students are boneheads who worship Joe Paterno.

Just get over it.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
30. Just get over it?
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jul 2012

That's your solution?
I don't think all people connected with PSU worship JVP. It is a world class university in many academic ways.
However, the only people I hear or see are the deniers. They are the ones defining PSU now. Are they getting the attention from the media? You bet, but why don't I hear somebody or some group trying to counter them.

The victims will never get over it. That's a fact. Until there is some clear recognition of the damage done and people truly expressing some sorrow and remorse over what happened, I won't just get over it.

It would be oh so nice to pretend that all is well now and everything is fixed. It's not. This will and should be a part of Happy Valley for a long time because it was beyond heinous. People can push for a compete change in the leadership and focus or they can whine and watch the same loudmouths take right back over.

And yes, if this was my alma mater, I have said more than once what I would want. I'd want the football stadium to be razed and the ground salted so nothing would grow. The empty space would be a message and a warning. I dearly love that place and it would break my heart. However, YOU DO NOT MESS WITH KIDS EVER!

You can get over it.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
35. Wow.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jul 2012

I am not telling the victims to get over it and agree you don't mess with kids ever. However, going after PSU with a vengeance as a means to deal with something personal isn't fair to those of us who are innocent AND support the victims. We are ALL victims here.

Tansy_Gold

(17,850 posts)
38. No, you are NOT a victim.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:42 PM
Jul 2012

You may be innocent, but you're not a victim. No one is taking away your college degree (assuming you have one). No one is asking you to cut ties with friends you made there. No one is bleaching you memory of the good times you had.

BUT YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM.

Tansy_Gold

(17,850 posts)
31. Get over it yourself.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jul 2012

No one is bashing all of Penn State or all alumni or all students. The only ones being bashed are the idiots who made the illiterate sign and those who still worship at the shrine of a pedophile protector/enabler.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
34. No, I don't think people will get over it.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jul 2012

We're talking about Child Rape, Child Rape Enablers and the sycophants who worship a Child Rape enabler. So no, people won't and shouldn't get over it. For you to ask them to makes you look really bad, to say the least.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
37. Can you imagine how I feel?
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:33 PM
Jul 2012

I love that school, the experiences, then people I interacted with....positive experiences. I have had to struggle with a lot of feelings since this has all come out, and it hurts when people bash PSU as a whole. That's what I'm talking about.....go ahead and bash Sandusky, Paterno, et al and the fans who still support Paterno. I am right there with you on that. PSU is made of a lot more than those people.

Tansy_Gold

(17,850 posts)
32. As far as the spelling:
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:18 PM
Jul 2012

"That is what LED to this abominable situation."

"Led" is the past tense of verb "to lead."

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
39. Football IS a religion
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:43 PM
Jul 2012

Look at how they make a saint out of Jo Pa -- "Crucified" (in all caps) for his belief.

"God & Mr. Paterno..."

Wow.

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