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Why is the media trying to humanize Melania (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 OP
Ok true but technically she is human. nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #1
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanize Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #6
You sure about that? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #52
Because she's human? elleng Apr 2018 #2
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humanize Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #9
But she does have that State Dinner to prepare for. Sssshhhhssss Whatever will she wear?????? politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #40
Yep That's Birther Ho aka Trump's former sidepiece underthematrix Apr 2018 #3
+1 n/t jaysunb Apr 2018 #10
I think she didn't have the strength to say otherwise. madaboutharry Apr 2018 #4
Yes. n/t janx Apr 2018 #8
I don't think she's a gold digger. I agree she's in an abusive relationship underthematrix Apr 2018 #15
I can't believe that she thought she'd come to America and make it on her "talent" More_Cowbell Apr 2018 #24
Classy. Tipperary Apr 2018 #41
A lot of consideration should be given to this. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #28
I like to think of her nagging and insulting him at every opportunity dawg day Apr 2018 #53
We all know where dehumanizing can lead. Melania is a human being. AJT Apr 2018 #5
I didnt say that we should dehumanize her Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #17
I understand, I just get affraid sometimes that I'll lose perspective. AJT Apr 2018 #33
Just a suggestion.. maybe you Cha Apr 2018 #7
I can see Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #16
Not a fan, but I have a hard time believing she'd personally give a shit where Obama was born. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2018 #11
Slovenian Stockholm Syndrome (SSS) democratisphere Apr 2018 #12
Actually, the robot lobby is also pushing this, too 😃 Julian Englis Apr 2018 #13
LOL Cha Apr 2018 #19
She was smiling at the funeral because she was imagining Donald's body in the casket. nt backscatter712 Apr 2018 #14
Gwarsh.....I thoight I was harsh.....lol. dameatball Apr 2018 #20
"Here, my beautiful Donald! Eat more cheeseburger! Drink milkshake!" backscatter712 Apr 2018 #44
... Scurrilous Apr 2018 #21
I thought she might have been fantasizing about President Obama dflprincess Apr 2018 #22
She deserves respect. After all she did cross that river and crawl through the desert to get here. dameatball Apr 2018 #18
"an inspired state dinner"?!1 UTUSN Apr 2018 #23
I have zero respect for her. With her fake cyber bulky cause when her husband is the worst. onecaliberal Apr 2018 #25
Since her husband is such a pile of feces PaulX2 Apr 2018 #26
Why are they trying to humanize Barbara Bush? flotsam Apr 2018 #27
+1 Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #54
It's important and experimental work. Pope George Ringo II Apr 2018 #29
So whats your point? Nevernose Apr 2018 #30
Disagree Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #34
Indeed! Well said. (eom) CanSocDem Apr 2018 #43
Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #31
There's a lot of racist pieces of shit out there... n/t backscatter712 Apr 2018 #45
I suppose the one thing we all have in common with her is that we want smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #32
I think those pics showed more of the humanity in Obama. Marie Marie Apr 2018 #35
You know if Obama can forgive her who am I to hold a grudge? dem4decades Apr 2018 #36
More to be pitied than censured Maeve Apr 2018 #37
Sometimes those old songs and poems tell the tale best. Thanks. nt Hekate Apr 2018 #47
I think she is KGB . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #38
Exactly. A trained pro, dt's "handler". Just a job that she's good at. ret5hd Apr 2018 #51
Jimmy Kimmel had a little fun with her FairDemocrat Apr 2018 #39
Just pointing out that she may kacekwl Apr 2018 #42
Because she is a human being Hekate Apr 2018 #46
Look up the definition of humanize Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #48
Tradition. First ladies are always humanized by mainstream media. northremembers Apr 2018 #49
I would agree Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #50

elleng

(130,895 posts)
2. Because she's human?
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:01 PM
Apr 2018

Recall how the media gave trump so much attention, they practically gave him repug nomination, AND presidency.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
40. But she does have that State Dinner to prepare for. Sssshhhhssss Whatever will she wear??????
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 12:15 AM
Apr 2018

It's not like she has to prepare the menu, grocery shop, and clean the White House ...

The services for Mrs. Bush capped a week that included hosting Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his wife for two days at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, culminating in a dinner for the couple -- a smaller dry-run, perhaps, for the mountainous task of the full state dinner that lies ahead in Washington.

State Dinner prep
Planning for Tuesday's state dinner, being held in honor of the official visit of French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife, Brigitte, began months ago; it was then that Melania Trump started to think of the details, such as an ideal gift.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/21/politics/melania-trump-state-dinner/index.html


So much to do; so little time. Please spare us the details of this woman's HARD life.




madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
4. I think she didn't have the strength to say otherwise.
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:05 PM
Apr 2018

I do believe that we are all responsible for what we do and say, but I think she is in an abusive relationship and was saying what she was told by a controlling sociopath. I know a lot of people here think she is a gold digger and have no empathy for her, but I think more is going on in that sick marriage than we know.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
24. I can't believe that she thought she'd come to America and make it on her "talent"
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:38 PM
Apr 2018

So to me, that leaves only a few ways she could earn a living. Certainly not as an architect or whatever Trump claims she studied.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
53. I like to think of her nagging and insulting him at every opportunity
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 02:45 PM
Apr 2018

I don't know if she does, but that would be one way he could get 1% of the punishment he deserves.

Also, I like to think that she makes him pay for every single bit of her cooperation in public. Like, "Yes, I'll hold your hand tomorrow, but only for 10 seconds, and that will be $10K paid into my account beforehand. No money, no handy."

AJT

(5,240 posts)
5. We all know where dehumanizing can lead. Melania is a human being.
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:07 PM
Apr 2018

We can dislike her, be angry, but we shouldn't dehumanize. She has said terrible things, we shouldn't forget that, she needs to be held accountable.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
17. I didnt say that we should dehumanize her
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:21 PM
Apr 2018

But we shouldn’t pretend that she is some compassionate and caring person.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
33. I understand, I just get affraid sometimes that I'll lose perspective.
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 10:07 PM
Apr 2018

I guess I'm talking about myself more than anyone else.

Cha

(297,205 posts)
7. Just a suggestion.. maybe you
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:07 PM
Apr 2018

should say.. "..media trying to normalize her.."?



Like they did trump for the GE.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
16. I can see
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:18 PM
Apr 2018

I can see how “normalization” could of been used in my OP, but I also think saying humanize was ok, too.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
22. I thought she might have been fantasizing about President Obama
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:27 PM
Apr 2018

I honestly kept expecting to see her reach out and try to rub his leg.

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
18. She deserves respect. After all she did cross that river and crawl through the desert to get here.
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:22 PM
Apr 2018

Oh, wait, nevermind. She caught the express.

onecaliberal

(32,854 posts)
25. I have zero respect for her. With her fake cyber bulky cause when her husband is the worst.
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:39 PM
Apr 2018

Especially since she knows exactly what he is but rather than show her son how a real man acts by leaving and divorcing, she is showing him to be a greedy asshole like the rest. The kind of people who only value money and will never have what they pretend to have.

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
26. Since her husband is such a pile of feces
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:45 PM
Apr 2018

I want to feel sorry for her. I dont. She chose to marry him. They are both scum. There, I said it.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
27. Why are they trying to humanize Barbara Bush?
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:48 PM
Apr 2018

She was the wife of one war criminal and the mother of another and her closest to honest member of the family is probably Neil Bush who only embezzled from his own bank...

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
30. So whats your point?
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:55 PM
Apr 2018

She’s an Eastern European college dropout that (at best) married for money (and there are plenty of worse reasons). NOBODY who EVER married Donald Trump EVER expected him to be addressed as “Mister President.” Very few of the people who actually VOTED for Trump thought he would win.

If she was a birther, or repeated birther stuff, it’s really not something worth judging her over. She was clearly fulfilling her paid position as the wife of a giant asshole. She may even believe it. If so, it’s because that’s what she was told to think.

It is really fucking hard to withhold judgment of most Trunpsters/Conservatives/Etceteras. I believe, however, that we should judge the people who programmed them. People like Melania aren’t the problem: they’re the symptom.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
34. Disagree
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 10:12 PM
Apr 2018
If she was a birther, or repeated birther stuff, it’s really not something worth judging her over.


Umm, yes it is.

Response to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
35. I think those pics showed more of the humanity in Obama.
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 10:34 PM
Apr 2018

I can picture him going out of his way to make her fell comfortable.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
37. More to be pitied than censured
Sat Apr 21, 2018, 10:44 PM
Apr 2018




She is more to be pitied than censured
she is more to be loved than despised.
She is only a lassie who ventured
On life's stormy path ill-advised.
Do not scorn her with words fierce and bitter
Do not laugh at her shame and downfall
For a moment please stop and consider
That a man was the cause of it all.

Actually, I prefer this from 1900:

She's only a bird in a gilded cage,
A beautiful sight to see,
You may think she's happy and free from care,
She's not, though she seems to be,
'Tis sad when you think of her wasted life,
For youth cannot mate with age,
And her beauty was sold,
For an old man's gold,
She's a bird in a gilded cage.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
51. Exactly. A trained pro, dt's "handler". Just a job that she's good at.
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 02:41 PM
Apr 2018

When the indictments come, hers will be labeled "Espionage".

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
42. Just pointing out that she may
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 09:23 AM
Apr 2018

enjoy life away from the scum she usually hangs out with. Being with nice people makes you feel good.

 

northremembers

(63 posts)
49. Tradition. First ladies are always humanized by mainstream media.
Sun Apr 22, 2018, 01:59 PM
Apr 2018

Barbara and Laura were often presented as decent people despite the monstrous things their husbands did. When Hillary was first lady she was also given fair coverage despite many venomous remarks by Republicans. Somehow, the first lady is still off limits and I don't see that we would be better off by changing that.

Yes, she obviously married Trump for his money and citizenship. We should criticize Donald for conflicting his own policies. I'm willing to give Melania the same pass for standing by her husband that Hillary got for standing by hers. The problem is Donald. If Melania runs for Senate, then she deserves the press that goes with it.

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