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Heartstrings

(7,349 posts) Mon Apr 23, 2018, 07:06 PM Apr 2018

This echoes my sentiments exactly, I could've written it.....

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This echoes my sentiments exactly, I could've written it..... (Original Post) Heartstrings Apr 2018 OP

Well, except for that lame duck pardonfest gratuitous Apr 2018 #1

Agree...And that would fall under the Heartstrings Apr 2018 #2

You mean the torture contrary to international law? jalan48 Apr 2018 #3

Yeah well 2 of them acted more for the rich and the corporate bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #4

Whenever you think it can't get worse, some asshole will prove you wrong IronLionZion Apr 2018 #5

But ya gotta admit... BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #12

Don't even say it IronLionZion Apr 2018 #13

Dubya is a close call, but ultimately I think he sincerely believed he was "fighting evil" Azathoth Apr 2018 #6

Everyone looks good next to dump... LakeArenal Apr 2018 #7

That's the point of the op..... Heartstrings Apr 2018 #11

Link to tweet? Thanks! nt CaptainTruth Apr 2018 #8

Friend posted from facebook Heartstrings Apr 2018 #10

Core values? When did being a war criminal become a core value? nt Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #9

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

1. Well, except for that lame duck pardonfest

Reply to Heartstrings (Original post)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 07:23 PM

Apr 2018

You know the one I mean: Christmas Eve 1992, after he'd lost his bid for re-election and his pals were about to go to trial for negotiating with terrorists, selling arms to Iran, and funneling the revenue to the contras. The only core value I see in that was saving his own miserable hide.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)

2. Agree...And that would fall under the

Reply to gratuitous (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 08:09 PM

Apr 2018

"Things I disagreed with" immensely....

jalan48

(13,859 posts)

3. You mean the torture contrary to international law?

Reply to Heartstrings (Original post)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 08:31 PM

Apr 2018

Fuck this shit.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)

4. Yeah well 2 of them acted more for the rich and the corporate

Reply to Heartstrings (Original post)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 08:37 PM

Apr 2018

though one could superficially dismiss it as a different political philosophy. Trump has been more extreme because he controls all of Congress too. These 4 were pragmatists by necessity.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)

5. Whenever you think it can't get worse, some asshole will prove you wrong

Reply to Heartstrings (Original post)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 08:46 PM

Apr 2018

Many thought W was as bad as it would get, and before that it was Reagan, before that it was Nixon, and so on.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)

12. But ya gotta admit...

Reply to IronLionZion (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:08 PM

Apr 2018

...it's going to take someone going to great lengths to out-shitstorm this shitstorm.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)

13. Don't even say it

Reply to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:22 PM

Apr 2018

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)

6. Dubya is a close call, but ultimately I think he sincerely believed he was "fighting evil"

Reply to Heartstrings (Original post)

Mon Apr 23, 2018, 08:53 PM

Apr 2018

A lot of the nonsense about "wars for oil" and so forth that was hurled at him was unfair. Dubya didn't know much and he didn't pretend to know much. He wasn't some Machiavellian corporate profiteer (dude was given an oil company and he couldn't find oil in Texas), nor was he a sophisticated neocon ideologue. All he knew was that Jesus and 'merica were good and the ter'ists were evil, and good had to be tough to defeat evil, just like they preached back home in Texas. Cheney and the neocons did the rest, and all they had to do was frame their agenda in those terms to get him onboard.

I honestly never thought we'd be at a point where he looked good in comparison.