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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:49 AM Apr 2018

The Evidence Is Not With Joy Reid

Excerpt:

Furthermore, the Old Dominion computer scientist Michael Nelson scoured the other public records of Reid’s site to see if he could find evidence for the screenshots that @Jamie_Maz posted. Even without precise URLs, which makes it much easier to look up the records, Nelson was able to identify five matches in the various archives from the screenshots.

There is a small caveat, which is that these other copies probably used the Wayback Machine’s copies as their original source, even if they have stored them separately.

“Nonetheless,” Nelson wrote, “with multiple copies geographically and administratively dispersed throughout the globe, an adversary would have had to hack multiple web archives and alter their contents (cf. lockss.org), or have hacked the original site (blog.reidreport.com) approximately 12 years ago for adulterated pages to have been hosted at all the different web archives.”

As he notes, it is possible that someone did this, but “extraordinarily unlikely.”

Among the implausible factors is that for Reid’s story to be correct, someone would have had to hack her blog back in the ’00s, but no one, including Reid herself, noticed the invalid posts.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/04/the-evidence-is-not-with-joy-reid/558935/
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The Evidence Is Not With Joy Reid (Original Post) oberliner Apr 2018 OP
Fifth time I've seen this article posted from the conservative Atlantic... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #1
In what alternate universe is the Atlantic a conservative publication? mythology Apr 2018 #5
It USED to be liberal... (historically).... Now? not so much hlthe2b Apr 2018 #6
And the author? FBaggins Apr 2018 #9
A lot of folks here who I've always considered good progressives are pushing hard on Reid story hlthe2b Apr 2018 #10
Thats easy. The one where inconvenient truths are RW talking points FBaggins Apr 2018 #7
"No one can take down a Democratic/Progressive voice, like "we" can ourselves, it would appear" avebury Apr 2018 #12
+1 hlthe2b Apr 2018 #13
Same posters who clamored for Frankens head, it seems. Tipperary Apr 2018 #17
The Daily Beast concurs and has investigated janterry Apr 2018 #2
Next up: The stunning new information from The Intercept. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #3
The Atlantic is Breitbart? shanny Apr 2018 #14
Stupid article, 1. I've never went back and looked at 3 day old post to see if someone altered uponit7771 Apr 2018 #4
I will wait for the FBI to weigh in on this before I make a conclusion for something that happened still_one Apr 2018 #8
I'll wait for the fbi to have their say leftynyc Apr 2018 #11
+1 n/t. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #16
I keep waiting for Casprings to join this discussion. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2018 #15
Who cares about this BS??? There's 20 freakin' threads on Joy. It feels like the summer pf 2016! winstars Apr 2018 #18
You are getting played like a two-bit fiddle. Are you too dumb to realize this?? Or do you like it? PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #19

hlthe2b

(102,387 posts)
1. Fifth time I've seen this article posted from the conservative Atlantic...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:55 AM
Apr 2018

No one can take down a Democratic/Progressive voice, like "we" can ourselves, it would appear




Yes, I'm damned sick of it. Who next? Should we re-disseminate all Michelle Obama's (or Barack's) ATTRIBUTED, PURPORTED, infamous, and largely untruthful, "pants on fire" statements? Gotta help the RW make them viral too.

WE have seen the "enemy" and it is US.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
5. In what alternate universe is the Atlantic a conservative publication?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:12 AM
Apr 2018

I get that you don't like the article, but that doesn't make them conservative.

FBaggins

(26,767 posts)
9. And the author?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:32 AM
Apr 2018

I’m sure somewhere in his book “Powering the Dream: The History and Promise of Green Technology” you’ll find some “RW talking points” - right?

hlthe2b

(102,387 posts)
10. A lot of folks here who I've always considered good progressives are pushing hard on Reid story
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:35 AM
Apr 2018

for whatever motivation.... so, hardly an isolated issue. Just like The Nation has gone so far Pro-Russia thanks to KVH's Russia loving academic hubby.

FBaggins

(26,767 posts)
7. Thats easy. The one where inconvenient truths are RW talking points
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:15 AM
Apr 2018

Essentially the left’s version of Trump’s “fake news” claims.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
12. "No one can take down a Democratic/Progressive voice, like "we" can ourselves, it would appear"
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:36 AM
Apr 2018

That is oh so true.

Liberals/Progressives need to stop eating their own. All it does is play into the hands of the 1%ers and bat sh*t crazy far right to the total detrimate of the Left. There is no level playing field as the far right is free to do whatever they want, no matter how illegal and/or immoral it is and without consequence while they easily trash people on the liberal/progressive side (do as we say not as we do) and the left goes along with it far too often.

They saw themselves get away with the Left finishing off Al Franken for them and found it to be a successful political model in trying to maintain control. They are incapable of winning fairly so they will lie, cheat, steal and get down in the mud to maintain control of the "mountain top."

I really like Joy Reid. She is extremely successful on air in combatting what is going on with Trump and the far right and I am not going to abandon her. We need to be publicly more supportive of those on our side and not let them be picked off one at a time. As long as no criminal act was commited, I don't care what she said in the past, I care about the work she is doing now. The far right have people out there that make Joy Reid look like a choir girl in comparison.

People need to keep their eyes on the ball and focus on dealing with what is going on in this country NOW, not what happened in the past. You cannot change the past, you can only try to influence the present and the future.

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
3. Next up: The stunning new information from The Intercept.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:03 AM
Apr 2018

Which is just a re-hash of the same Breitbart article we see here.

Give it a rest, Francis.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
4. Stupid article, 1. I've never went back and looked at 3 day old post to see if someone altered
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:08 AM
Apr 2018

... them, 2. there was 3 days between one of the post and TWBM scraping, that's 3 lifetimes in hacking world, 3. If its implausible for Reid not to notice the post being change its even more implausible no one noticed they were made at all !! Few if any feedback at that time on them.

still_one

(92,424 posts)
8. I will wait for the FBI to weigh in on this before I make a conclusion for something that happened
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:18 AM
Apr 2018

over a decade ago

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
11. I'll wait for the fbi to have their say
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:36 AM
Apr 2018

But in all honesty, it hasn't gone unnoticed that you have been posting anti-Reid articles all week. We all know what the situation is and don't need this kind of bullshit to remind us.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
18. Who cares about this BS??? There's 20 freakin' threads on Joy. It feels like the summer pf 2016!
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:17 AM
Apr 2018

I love Joy Reid and I could give a shit about some obscure blog posts she may or may not have actually written years ago.

Boring.

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