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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:11 PM Apr 2018

Perhaps, Mike Pence would be better..for this reason. Trump doesn't get the job.

He goes on Fox News, and he thinks he is back when he was on the Apprentice ..in charge of the show..all of the show. Pence knows that this is not a show, that this is one of the most important positions in the entire world. Trump cannot shut up. He doesn't get it. I don't think he is capable of getting "it"

..My belief is that Trump knows he got this "job" through his connections and he did not get to be President legally. He also is too self centered to realize what this job.. "is". Pence would know. He is also an asshole, but at least he would know what the job is and who he represents. Trump is lost on a sea of furious hate and self illusion. He sees it as Trump vs the media..for all it is worth, with the good guys on Fox News..as his team. The country is against him and it is all the media's fault and "HILLARY TOO".. Let's not forget Hillary.. she is to be blamed..

...Now Pence would be worse as a more conservative asshole, but my guess is Pence is sane and realizes what this job entails. Most of us here know what this job is and would do better than Trump. Trump acts like it is a two bit show and he is the boss. Pence would know the truth. Obama knew and even Bush Jr. knew. Eisenhower knew as did both Franklin and Theodore Roosevelt. Clinton knew as Hillary knows.

Trump really doesn't know. He doesn't care to know or learn. He doesn't want to learn. He thinks he knows it all, and he really doesn't know. Pence knows as do you and I.

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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. Pence knows this is his shot to do GREAT harm to gay people and other minorities who he very
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:24 PM
Apr 2018

clearly hates.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
3. Yes, Pence hates minorities. But he will be stopped by a totally Democratic congress next January.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:30 PM
Apr 2018

Having Trump as President is beyond belief. He seems very dangerous.. Morel dangerous than Pence, but maybe you are correct.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
6. And none of this had to happen. If the nose holders would have just said
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:38 PM
Apr 2018

nothing or nice things.

If the "I just cant trust her" folks could have trusted her.

This has NOTHING to do with the primaries, I heard that shit right up to election day, everywhere.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
7. But if Pence were to take over in the next few months, wouldn't that encourage the Repug
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:42 PM
Apr 2018

voters to rush out and support him ?

cos dem

(903 posts)
2. I think the one impeachment/removal scenario that is realistic is if Pence gets ambitious...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:24 PM
Apr 2018

and convinces Congress to remove Orange hitler. If Rs decided, particularly after a (still hypothetically) disastrous midterm, that WTF, might as well go with the Pence guy, and Pence (probably privately) convinces them to go ahead, then I could see it happening.

Other scenarios I think are pretty unlikely.

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
4. Pence is detestable, but more predictably so... he also is capable of some self-restraint
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:31 PM
Apr 2018

I honestly think if truly cornered Trump will care not one iota about consequences and may just inflict as much harm as possible on the way out. I don't see Pence intentionally destroying us all and our system of government.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
9. Oh hell no. I want Pence to go down in flames with Trump.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:02 PM
Apr 2018

Pence is just as dirty and possibly a greater danger.

Trump is vindictive. If we're lucky he'll take everyone down with him in a giant shit storm of failure, including Pence and Paul Ryan.

There's got to be a Gerald Ford sort of Republican willing to step up to the plate, one not dripping with the foul slime of Trump's Presidency.

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