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when she's called out about her lying press conferences.
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If youre more upset about a comedian teasing Sarah Huckabee Sanders about her makeup because its making fun of appearance than by 8 years of the GOP saying Obama was from Kenya because of appearance, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. #WHCD
8:39 PM - 28 Apr 2018
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)And when they do with some pretty sharp and mean things, we get all bothered and worried about it.
Highway61
(2,568 posts)Dems are "too nice". Bill Maher touches on this a lot. We need to get pissed off...really pissed off.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)We're better than that, we don't want to get into the muck with them, they go low, we go high.
And I'll agree to that when it comes to various actual politicians, particularly depending on their place. They shouldn't be crass and vulgar.
But they need to fight back. And the lower ranks and those not in office need to be blunt and better fighters. We used to have them back in the day.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)The GOP figured this out decades ago. Before Trump took over their base by turning their propaganda techniques up to 11, they did this split well.
They use surrogates to sling dirt and go low. While the officeholders and figureheads go high. So Bush said Mission Accomplished and compassionate conservatism while GOP surrogates went on TV and called Dems unpatriotic and class warfare mavens and soft on terror.
Its great for Barack and Michelle to go high. They are the visionaries and moral leaders. But liberals need surrogates who will state the truth (Sanders is a liar) even when it feels like thats going low.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)You are absolutely right. Time for the dem party to adopt this.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)In short it means bringing the fight to a higher level, not running to hide under the bed.
Bringing truth, whether its pleasant or not, to a fight is actually Going High.
CrispyQ
(36,540 posts)The GOP has dragged the country so far into the muck, & the dems/left are going to have to get dirty if we want to win this fight. The ratfuckers took the rule book & threw it in the trash. They are counting on the dems/left going high & if we do, we are going to lose the country.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)
It makes me sick. F the damned republicans!
We need to be like the greatest democrat of all FDR! He threw their hate right back in their damned faces and changed this country in a profound way, much of which is still in effect today!
But we are too busy apologizing for calling these damn republicans what they are and tearing down and destroying some of out best voices because republicans won't like us
We don't have time to change this country like FDR, to busy sucking up to the MSM and the fuc**ng RNC!!!
bucolic_frolic
(43,364 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:49 PM - Edit history (1)
Projection and distraction are their main tools
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,364 posts)to focus on headline grammar ... high five to ya, Bernardo!
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)Excellent!
sarge43
(28,946 posts)Jabba the Hut Limbaugh's comparing twelve year old Chelsea Clinton to a dog.
Don't want shit; don't start shit, Snowflakes.
Demovictory9
(32,482 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,222 posts)Shipwack
(2,174 posts)He said that in front of a studio audience, and they actually pushed back against that*, surprising both him and me.
He then immediately walked it back, blaming a staff member for the mistake.
*Nowadays, of course, they would have cheered, I think.
Edited to insert missing word.
CrispyQ
(36,540 posts)The media should have smacked Palin down when the GOP didn't. They are all to blame. Fuckers. They let her spout her hateful shit, working the bigots into a frenzy. They let that kind of rhetoric become acceptable in the public forum. Fuck them, every one. Palin should have been pulled from the ticket & when the GOP didn't' do that the media should have shamed her mercilessly. Fuck them all, over their whining that Wolf exposed them for the cowards & sellouts that they are.
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)for Donald Trump, she is fair game.
PaulX2
(2,032 posts)When she takes the podium.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They make fun of a woman's appearance first thing. What snowflakes!
Demovictory9
(32,482 posts)-Steph-
(409 posts)She's made it her personal mission to defend the master of personal insults and low-blows. She doesn't do it because she needs the money or job, she was already rich. She just enjoys it. I'm not offended that someone said her smokey eye shadow was made from the ashes of her lies. I'm offended that many of the same people having this faux outrage are completely comfortable supporting a racist, misogynistic, criminal that is destroying the very fabric of this country with the help of our enemies and people like Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
Stinky The Clown
(67,831 posts)whathehell
(29,096 posts)They're obviously different things. Calling someone out on lies is legitimate -- Taking shots at her appearance is just sad, desperate stuff.
samnsara
(17,650 posts)..ppl made fun if her being frumpy now make fun of her being glammed. lets stick with her behavior.
whathehell
(29,096 posts)especially since the bulk of it is pointedly sexist.
marble falls
(57,355 posts)appearance is at best childish, mean and bully-ish behavior.
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mythology
(9,527 posts)There are plenty of good things to call her out on. Appearance isn't one of them.
whathehell
(29,096 posts)Great minds think alike.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Because it was in no way a shot at her appearance.
If it had been done up as an editorial cartoon it would have been lauded as a fantastic piece here.
whathehell
(29,096 posts)but since this is my third post admitting the possibility of a mistake, I'm sure we don't need to belabor the point.
KelleyKramer
(8,985 posts)A 'smokey eye' is considered to be perfect
And there is no 'maybe' about it
whathehell
(29,096 posts)You might want to try and keep up up. .
JI7
(89,279 posts)whathehell
(29,096 posts)whathehell
(29,096 posts)Now I'm sorry if this disappoints you, but you may just have to find someone else to bait with the "pussy grabbing birther" routine, okay? Buh bye now.
JI7
(89,279 posts)whathehell
(29,096 posts)It hastens placement on my ignore list too.
JI7
(89,279 posts)Bleeding women attacks.
dalton99a
(81,637 posts)kacekwl
(7,024 posts)Fuck your feelings on top , trump below and in small print and your little dog Sarah.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....about people for years. We can start with "Crooked Hillary".
jaxind
(1,074 posts)For those who say making fun of Sanders' make-up is hitting below the belt, well maybe it is, but then how come the goddamn President could get away about making fun of Ted Cruz's wife's face??! I think that may have been before tRUMP was actually President, so for anyone that wants to use that defense and say, "That was before tRUMP was President" well, I say to them, "Well, Michelle Wolf isn't the President either!!"
PaulX2
(2,032 posts)Underground in Lord Of The Rings. Glad we cleared that up.
PaulX2
(2,032 posts)Mean I am commenting on her appearance? Maybe it is something she said.
I have to immediately change the channel when her or Trump come on the teevee. After a few seconds I feel ill.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)We should try to focus, even when we're roasting someone. Historically, attacks on one's appearance are much more frequently directed at women, and are especially illegitimate for that reason.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)that is being discussed? I suspect not as your comment doesn't address it at all.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)which isn't about SHS apperance it's about the lies.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Digs about the content of Sanders' character are just fine, and a target-rich environment to boot; comments about the color of her makeup (pop culture references notwithstanding) cross the line.
And you could see it in the room. The entire audience cringed during Wolf's Sanders segment. It took her several minutes to get them back.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)comes from her burning facts and using the resulting ash as an eye shadow. That is not an appearance joke that is a SHS is a liar joke.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)As an appearance joke.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)if you are going to use the WHCD audience as arbiters of joke content and acceptability. The reporters, who were skewered in the same routine, are a pack of sycophants who are willing to do overlook anything donald says or does as long a they can get "access" to him. While the joke does make reference to makeup which is related to appearance the punch line makes it very clear what the joke is about. Maybe she's born with it maybe it's the lies. If that's how you define an appearance joke then your bar is so low that there are some appearance jokes I think are acceptable.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Was clearly not shared by the large audience. So there's that.
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)MrModerate
(9,753 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)she deserves everything said about her by Wolf.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)to resign his Senate Seat merely because he was strategically attacked by Roger Stone and his internet innuendo minions.
Now we lefties (and our fading twilight of Democracy) are bereft of one of the most courageous Wellstone Democrats of at least the last thirty years! Smartest, most well prepared, most articulate Senator we could hope for and THE BAD PEOPLE WON..........again.
Go grab some pussy out there for fun, Al. You deserve some sleazy sexist relaxation after all you've been through! The world has to be teeming with ex-dem-senator groupies! I'll paypal you $50 myself, Al, if you make S.H. Sanders pussy grabbin' job one!
-90% Jimmy
For the record, all the pussy grabbin' of my 64 year old life has generally been respectful and consensual. Even during the many blackout drunks of my youth up to my interlock install of Jan 2016-Mar 2018. Oh yeah, almost forgot. My wife of 25 years died Oct 2013 from alcoholism, albeit indirectly.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,222 posts)She said Sanders' creates the "perfect" smokey eye from the ashes of burned facts.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Wolf complimented Sanders' makeup.
She poked fun of the CONTENT of the makeup.
She explained this to the idiot media types trying to defend Huckabee Sanders.
malaise
(269,219 posts)Most of the media gave them airplay and did not call out the fucking LIARS
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)Her looks, her appearance, her lies, he tone of voice are ALL FAIR GAME. Wake up, these people are fascists. If they had their way you'd be living behind razor wire, or worse. And you're worried about her fucking feelings?
IronLionZion
(45,563 posts)And, of course, we have Sarah Huckabee Sanders. We're graced with Sarah's presence tonight. I have to say I'm a little star-struck. I love you as Aunt Lydia in The Handmaid's Tale.
Mike Pence, if you haven't seen it, you would love it.
Every time Sarah steps up to the podium, I get excited because I'm not really sure what we're going to get: you know, a press briefing, a bunch of lies or divided into softball teams. It's shirts and skins, and this time, don't be such a little b----, Jim Acosta.
I actually really like Sarah. I think she's very resourceful. Like, she burns facts, and then she uses the ash to create a perfect smoky eye. Like, maybe she's born with it; maybe it's lies.
It's probably lies.
And I'm never really sure what to call Sarah Huckabee Sanders. You know, is it Sarah Sanders? Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Is it Cousin Huckabee? Is it Auntie Huckabee Sanders? Like, what's Uncle Tom but for white women who disappoint other white women? Oh, I know: Aunt Coulter.
Full transcript here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/29/michelle-wolfs-caustic-comedy-routine-at-the-white-house-correspondents-dinner-annotated/?utm_term=.a2a0cc9b0968
There are videos on Youtube with the whole speech. Not hard to find for anyone who want to know the truth.