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I know many of you were offended by the WHCD comedy routine.
As an aging Baby Boomer, I have to tell you that I was very proud of this young woman last night. I'll try not to make this too cliche about obstacles and barriers, but what I saw is a woman who did a Don Rickles take down on the most vicious, inhumane mob and their media toadies that the WHCD has ever seen.
I hear my nieces about her age talk about women who have no fucks to give and there it was on full display. The generation with 80k in loans is not going to go for the "gentle ribbing" and "mutual respect" the old folks in the sycophant media are calling for today.
In 20 minutes she shamed them on Bear Sterns, Flint, me,too (Fox News is here ... cover your drinks), our lying Press Secretary who burns facts and wears it as eye shadow. It goes on and on.
Here was a woman Court Jester mocking and belittling the NAZIs and their enablers, without the slightest flinch of "I'm so sorry to be mean and crude."
One of the means of controlling girls when I was growing up was the "act like a lady" admonition. Any bad behavior and we were shamed as unladylike. Talking back was unladylike. Protesting was unladylike. Showing up the boys was totally unladylike.
I thought Michelle slapped them with her unladylikeness and shamed them with human values. (Our President is a pussy, he's broke and he's lousy in bed and by the way, why TF are you people sitting here when Flint still has dirty water?)
A milestone. Question her taste, but not her heart.
Not for nothing, she was mobbed by the young attendees to the WHCD after the speech. She's one of them.
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)Thank you for this. I rather enjoyed the show.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)K&R
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Squinch
(50,935 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)Thank you
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and allow me to humbly add my fuel to the fire: If you want to know why trump is president,look at the people who were "offended" by this. There was a time to take a high road, but that was before the low road became a superhighway leading to the death camps and prisons where our children will be livestock.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)Her voice was almost like Roseannes which is tough to take, but overall a perfectly good performance.
CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)Honestly, I never really thought I'd be a comedian. But I did take an aptitude test in seventh grade and this is 100 percent true I took an aptitude test in seventh grade, and it said in my best profession was a clown or a mime. Well, at first it said clown, and then it heard my voice and then was like, Or maybe mime. Think about mime.
Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)That is funny especially if she nailed the delivery.
Self deprecating humor is often very good.
CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)Trump's ego won't let him. I just can't believe this jerk is polling over 35%! WTF, America?
EarnestPutz
(2,119 posts)...when she said that her aptitude test told her she was cut out
to be a clown, and she thought to herself "maybe a mime".
EarnestPutz
(2,119 posts).... and with a better, more complete answer. Embarrassing.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Nitram
(22,781 posts)That's what speaking truth to power look like!
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)but she told us up front...she doesn't have a political agenda
yes, she was crude at points....
but sometimes being crude makes a point
I will think of Ivanka as Diaper Genie from now on....and I think it is very apt.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Yonnie3
(17,427 posts)My expectations were not met because my expectations were ridiculous.
I was expecting some great humor to lighten the dismal news about this "administration" that never stops. The evil that these people have foisted on this country aided by the media in its quest for ratings ($s) is no laughing matter. This was a lampooning of epic proportions. It is remarkable that there were any laughs, when I consider what the subjects of this roast have done.
Bravo Ms. Wolf!
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)tikka
(762 posts)The WHCA needs slapping everyday. Perhaps, it is past time that this Washington social event got knocked down a few pegs. Pearl-clutching over a few sexually expressive words seems ludicrous considering what this administration is doing to this country.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)It was stifling, belittling and humiliating to be forced into meek, submissive obscurity by a puritanical, patriarchal society. I saw myself in Michelle Wolf's effectively brazen comedy. She said the things I still struggle to say -- want to say! -- and it's taken me 70+ years to overcome that restrictive "act like a lady" censure just get to that point.
Young, outspoken women activists of today are empowered and inspired by comedians like Wolf to speak out, to stand up and shout truth to power. Give me more!
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)No nerves, no guilt, just natural
raven mad
(4,940 posts)I'm still cheering!
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)Rec
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Great OP, btw.
The problem of living up to the standards of being a "lady" is that there is no one standard. It's an all-purpose set of chains that can be hauled out to punish ANY girl or woman for damn near ANYTHING.
Kinda like this:
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Comparing her to Don Rickles is flat out wrong. The audience was in on the joke with Rickles. They saw it as a badge to be insulted by him. On the other hand, Wolf wasn't there as part of a larger joke.
The thing about comedy is you have to actually be good at it to reach onto certain subjects. Wolf failed miserably in that regard.
If feminism is the radical notion that women are people too, I'm not all that eager to celebrate that means women can be mean spirited as well. It's not about being unladylike, guys should find a better way to be funny than to pick on people who aren't in a position to respond.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Almost everyone she called out is in a position of power, on TV whenever they wish to be, on Twitter, and with the nastiest bully in the world ready to take revenge for them.
Obviously you think there were innocent people hurt by her routine. I am interested to know who you think is innocent.
I can't argue the not funny part ... that is entirely subjective. Laughter is involuntary
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uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Upcyclying is when you take something old and useless and *gasp* turn it into something pretty and useful
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Eventually we'll get through Eggs Benedict too.
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Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,059 posts)regardless of gender (race, religio, etc)
So for me - at least - it has nothing to do with acting like a lady. It has to do with discouraging progressives from emulating the cruel behavior engaged in my far too many Republicans.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Im proud of her, she has a lot of courage.