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Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:36 AM

Comedy is a feminist issue

I know many of you were offended by the WHCD comedy routine.

As an aging Baby Boomer, I have to tell you that I was very proud of this young woman last night. I'll try not to make this too cliche about obstacles and barriers, but what I saw is a woman who did a Don Rickles take down on the most vicious, inhumane mob and their media toadies that the WHCD has ever seen.

I hear my nieces about her age talk about women who have no fucks to give and there it was on full display. The generation with 80k in loans is not going to go for the "gentle ribbing" and "mutual respect" the old folks in the sycophant media are calling for today.

In 20 minutes she shamed them on Bear Sterns, Flint, me,too (Fox News is here ... cover your drinks), our lying Press Secretary who burns facts and wears it as eye shadow. It goes on and on.

Here was a woman Court Jester mocking and belittling the NAZIs and their enablers, without the slightest flinch of "I'm so sorry to be mean and crude."

One of the means of controlling girls when I was growing up was the "act like a lady" admonition. Any bad behavior and we were shamed as unladylike. Talking back was unladylike. Protesting was unladylike. Showing up the boys was totally unladylike.

I thought Michelle slapped them with her unladylikeness and shamed them with human values. (Our President is a pussy, he's broke and he's lousy in bed and by the way, why TF are you people sitting here when Flint still has dirty water?)

A milestone. Question her taste, but not her heart.

Not for nothing, she was mobbed by the young attendees to the WHCD after the speech. She's one of them.

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Reply Comedy is a feminist issue (Original post)
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 OP
H2O Man Apr 2018 #1
ChubbyStar Apr 2018 #3
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #6
Solly Mack Apr 2018 #2
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #7
Squinch Apr 2018 #4
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #5
ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #8
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #11
DonCoquixote Apr 2018 #9
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #10
CrispyQ Apr 2018 #12
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #15
Lucky Luciano Apr 2018 #13
CrispyQ Apr 2018 #18
Lucky Luciano Apr 2018 #23
CrispyQ Apr 2018 #32
EarnestPutz Apr 2018 #19
EarnestPutz Apr 2018 #20
bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #14
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #16
Nitram Apr 2018 #17
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #26
Fresh_Start Apr 2018 #21
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #27
backtoblue Apr 2018 #22
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #28
SunSeeker Apr 2018 #24
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #29
Yonnie3 Apr 2018 #25
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #30
tikka Apr 2018 #31
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #33
procon Apr 2018 #34
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #35
raven mad Apr 2018 #36
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #37
malaise Apr 2018 #38
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #39
RandomAccess Apr 2018 #40
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #41
mythology Apr 2018 #42
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #43
Name removed Apr 2018 #44
uppityperson Apr 2018 #45
DesertRat Apr 2018 #47
uppityperson Apr 2018 #49
DesertRat Apr 2018 #46
Scurrilous Apr 2018 #48
Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #50
Meowmee Apr 2018 #51

Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:38 AM

1. Recommended.

Thank you for this. I rather enjoyed the show.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:41 AM

3. I did too!

K&R

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:50 AM

6. Thank you

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:40 AM

2. K&R

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:51 AM

7. Thanks

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:41 AM

4. Well said. I loved it. And frankly, she was kind to the liars and molesters, etc.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:50 AM

5. Much too kind to them. You are so right.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:57 AM

8. Very well said.

Thank you

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 12:09 PM

11. Thank you

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:57 AM

9. Hell yes

and allow me to humbly add my fuel to the fire: If you want to know why trump is president,look at the people who were "offended" by this. There was a time to take a high road, but that was before the low road became a superhighway leading to the death camps and prisons where our children will be livestock.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 12:07 PM

10. Absolutely true.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 12:11 PM

12. A kick for truth!



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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:17 PM

15. Thanks

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:04 PM

13. Some jokes were funny - I mean spot on. Others kinda dull.

Her voice was almost like Roseanne’s which is tough to take, but overall a perfectly good performance.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:42 PM

18. I liked her joke about her voice.

Honestly, I never really thought I'd be a comedian. But I did take an aptitude test in seventh grade — and this is 100 percent true — I took an aptitude test in seventh grade, and it said in my best profession was a clown or a mime. Well, at first it said clown, and then it heard my voice and then was like, “Or maybe mime. Think about mime.”


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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:57 PM

23. LOL fair enough! I only heard clips so far...not the whole thing.

That is funny especially if she nailed the delivery.

Self deprecating humor is often very good.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #23)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:40 PM

32. Obama was excellent at it.

Trump's ego won't let him. I just can't believe this jerk is polling over 35%! WTF, America?

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:43 PM

19. She made fun of her own voice...

...when she said that her aptitude test told her she was cut out
to be a clown, and she thought to herself "maybe a mime".

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Response to EarnestPutz (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:45 PM

20. Crispy, you beat me by one minute....

.... and with a better, more complete answer. Embarrassing.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:08 PM

14. Well said and agree 100%.

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Response to bronxiteforever (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:17 PM

16. Thank you

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:37 PM

17. I was not offended. I was energized.

That's what speaking truth to power look like!

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Response to Nitram (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:19 PM

26. Yes it does!

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:46 PM

21. Michelle Wolf could have been a lot harder on the administration

but she told us up front...she doesn't have a political agenda

yes, she was crude at points....
but sometimes being crude makes a point

I will think of Ivanka as Diaper Genie from now on....and I think it is very apt.


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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:20 PM

27. Yes and she told us up front "let's get this over with"

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:47 PM

22. Kick and rec

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Response to backtoblue (Reply #22)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:22 PM

28. Thank you

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:02 PM

24. Spot on. Thank you!

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:23 PM

29. Thank you

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:05 PM

25. My expectations were not met.

My expectations were not met because my expectations were ridiculous.

I was expecting some great humor to lighten the dismal news about this "administration" that never stops. The evil that these people have foisted on this country aided by the media in its quest for ratings ($s) is no laughing matter. This was a lampooning of epic proportions. It is remarkable that there were any laughs, when I consider what the subjects of this roast have done.

Bravo Ms. Wolf!

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #25)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:26 PM

30. Yes indeed!

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:38 PM

31. The Don Rickles analogy is spot on - wonderful OP

The WHCA needs slapping everyday. Perhaps, it is past time that this Washington social event got knocked down a few pegs. Pearl-clutching over a few sexually expressive words seems ludicrous considering what this administration is doing to this country.

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Response to tikka (Reply #31)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:56 PM

33. Long past time, yes, and thanks

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 03:14 PM

34. The constant parental harangue of "act like a lady" was ubiquitous back in the day.

It was stifling, belittling and humiliating to be forced into meek, submissive obscurity by a puritanical, patriarchal society. I saw myself in Michelle Wolf's effectively brazen comedy. She said the things I still struggle to say -- want to say! -- and it's taken me 70+ years to overcome that restrictive "act like a lady" censure just get to that point.

Young, outspoken women activists of today are empowered and inspired by comedians like Wolf to speak out, to stand up and shout truth to power. Give me more!

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Response to procon (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 03:47 PM

35. What's really nice to see is that they're just doing it

No nerves, no guilt, just natural

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 04:57 PM

36. Offended, heck!

I'm still cheering!

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Response to raven mad (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:11 PM

37. Cheers!

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:13 PM

38. Brilliant

Rec

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Response to malaise (Reply #38)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:31 PM

39. Thank you

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:06 PM

40. Being ladylike or not

 

Great OP, btw.

The problem of living up to the standards of being a "lady" is that there is no one standard. It's an all-purpose set of chains that can be hauled out to punish ANY girl or woman for damn near ANYTHING.

Kinda like this:

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #40)

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:14 PM

41. true!

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:15 AM

42. Being an asshole when people don't have the ability to respond isn't exactly feminism

 

Comparing her to Don Rickles is flat out wrong. The audience was in on the joke with Rickles. They saw it as a badge to be insulted by him. On the other hand, Wolf wasn't there as part of a larger joke.

The thing about comedy is you have to actually be good at it to reach onto certain subjects. Wolf failed miserably in that regard.

If feminism is the radical notion that women are people too, I'm not all that eager to celebrate that means women can be mean spirited as well. It's not about being unladylike, guys should find a better way to be funny than to pick on people who aren't in a position to respond.

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Response to mythology (Reply #42)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:39 AM

43. Who are those who don't have means to respond?

Almost everyone she called out is in a position of power, on TV whenever they wish to be, on Twitter, and with the nastiest bully in the world ready to take revenge for them.

Obviously you think there were innocent people hurt by her routine. I am interested to know who you think is innocent.

I can't argue the not funny part ... that is entirely subjective. Laughter is involuntary

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Response to Name removed (Reply #44)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:46 AM

45. How about upcycling for a hobby?

http://www.cracked.com/blog/white-people-hobbies-that-confuse-rest-world/
Upcyclying is when you take something old and useless and *gasp* turn it into something pretty and useful

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:57 AM

47. ...

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #47)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:12 AM

49. I'm not on much so miss having chances to share

Eventually we'll get through Eggs Benedict too.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:09 AM

48. K&R

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 03:18 AM

50. I would have found it just as offensive

regardless of gender (race, religio, etc)

So for me - at least - it has nothing to do with acting like a lady. It has to do with discouraging progressives from emulating the cruel behavior engaged in my far too many Republicans.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Original post)

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 03:38 AM

51. Agree

Im proud of her, she has a lot of courage.

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